Wednesday, December 10, 2008

Dong promises mammoth rally

update 10/12: You Arrogant Dong! Zainul Arifin of NST says it - Dong Jiao Zong's mammoth threat against the government smacks of arrogance. Read his column in today's NST here.

In A. Kadir Jasin's latest thots on multi-racial Malaysia [To the Empire they go], he wonders what the Malaysian Chinese are thinking, now that Hindraf has got the ears of the Empire. 'I can’t imagine them making a beeline to London or complaining to the Chinese government. But according to Press reports, the Jiao Zong (United Chinese School Teachers’ Association) had threatened “mammoth demo” should the government decide to continue the policy of teaching of mathematics and science in English."

Here's the report. SSDD. Same Shit Different Day, as King would say. I say let them have their day on the streets. Bring on the mammoth demo.


Jiao Zong warns of mammoth demo
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Tuesday, 09 December 2008 02:13pm

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JIAO ZONG (United Chinese School Teachers Association) president Ong Chiaw Chuan warns that Dong Jiao Zong will launch a massive protest action should the government decide to continue with its policy of teaching Science and Mathematics in English, the Chinese press reported yesterday.

Dong Jiao Zong, which comprises Dong Zong (United Chinese School Committees Association) and Jiao Zong, has maintained a firm stand that the government should revert to the use of mother-tongue languages to teach the two subjects in primary schools. Education Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein is expected to make
a decision after chairing the fi fth roundtable discussion on whether or not to continue teaching Science and Mathematics in English.

“The Chinese community has to act if the issue is not resolved,” Ong said on Saturday. He believed the majority of people from the various communities wish to see a reversal to the use of mother-tongue languages to teach Science and Maths.

He urged Chinese-based political parties and Chinese ministers, especially those from MCA, to be firm in fighting for the use of Mandarin as the medium of instruction for Science and Maths in Chinese primary schools.

“They also need to be mentally prepared, as once the government decides to carry on with the policy, Dong Jiao Zong will launch a massive protest action,” said Ong. He said Dong Jiao Zong feels that the teaching of Science and Maths in English is currently the greatest threat to Chinese education.

He disclosed that at the second and fourth roundtable discussions held on Aug 27 and Oct 21 respectively, most of the participants, including Dong Jiao Zong and educational and cultural groups from other races,
political parties, academics and former education offi cers, were not in favour of the “go English” policy.

“Studies by various educational groups and universities, and even the Education Ministry’s own survey, showed that the implementation of English for Science and Maths policy has not produced the desired
results,” he said.

131 comments:

Anonymous said...

what? a rally? LOL, no need lah, i don't want another round of aimless roadblocks by the police
:-/

farha

balan said...

Rocky,

I suggest that we should have a referendum on this.

Do read my take on this

http://balankumarpremakumaran.blogspot.com/2008/12/maths-science-in-english-lets-have.html

Anonymous said...

Here they come...its not hard to see it coming to this direction after all 'guts' of questioning constitutional rights of the Bumis.
I urge the government to stand firm and not chicken out by the threat of 'massive protest'. Please do what is right for the country. Make those who shout Bangsa Malaysia swallow their hollow thoughts of wanting this and that but not willing to sacrifice anything on their part. Enough of trying to accomodate the monorities who are apparently ungrateful lots. If only they knew what is like to be minorities in other countries. Sigh!

Saya bukan Belacan said...

Everyone in this country is selfish and racist!

Why have Chinese and Tamil schools in the first place? Have one SK and SMK teaching all four languages.

UK is spending millions to introduce French in schools but we have the resources but are blind to utilise it - all in the name of culture. BAH!

This is Malaysia. Lets start living the MALAYSIAN way.

p/s: Some fanatics go around claiming they are Chinese and Indians instead of Malaysians. I wonder how many of them have ever been to China / India or have any linkage to both countries?

MUMMY ROKIAH said...

Bro,
Dongjiazong? read my blog
www.mummyrokiah.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

CUKUP DISINI. KERAJAAAN HARUS BERSIKAP TEGAS TERHADAP SAMSENG-SAMSENG INI YANG INGIN MENCABAR PROSES PENTADBIRAN DAN MERENYUK KESTABILAN YANG SEDIA WUJUD. JELAS BAHAWA KAUM CINA MENDAPAT SOKONGAN PIHAK-PIHAK TERTENTU DAN SUDAH TIBA MASANYA, ISA DIGUNAKKAN BAGI MEMBENDUNG GEJALA SAMSENG DAN PERAS UGUT DARI MENULAR DALAM MASAYARAKAT.

TUNTUTAN DONG JIAO ZONG ADALAH SATU TUNTUTAN YANG MELAMPAUI BATAS DAN DI LUAR FIKIRAN WARAS.KAUM PENDATANG YANG MEREMPAT DI TANAH AIR KITA TIADA HAK UNTUK MENUNTUT PENDIDIKAN BERASASKAN BAHASA KANGKONG MEREKA. SEKOLAH-SEKOLAH VERNAKULAR PERLU DIHAPUSKAN SEGERA DAN SEBARANG CABARAN KEPADA TINDAKAN TERSEBUT HARUS DITENTANG DENGAN KEKERASAN YANG SETIMPAL. INGAT KALAU MEREKA BOLEH DEMO, KAMI ORANG MELAYU PUN BOLEH DEMO.

KALAU DITELITI SECARA RASIONAL TUJUAN MEREKA BERBAUR SERAMPANG DUA MATA:

1. SEBAGAI MENGIMBAL SARANAN DATUK MUKHRIZ. MEREKA KECUT CADANGAN ITU BAKAL MENJADI KENYATAAN DAN TIDAK PERCAYA KERAJAAN AKAN MELINDUNGI HAK MEREKA. MAKA BENDERA CHAUVINISMA DI TEGAKKAN BAGAI MEMBERI AMARAN TERSIRAT KEPADA KERAJAAN AGAR TIDAK MENERIMA SARANAN DATUK YANG PENUH HIKMAH.

2. MEREKA HENDAK MEMAKSA KERAJAAN SUPAYA MEMBUAT KEPUTUSAN BERHUBUNG PENGGUNAAN BI DALAM SAINS DAN MATEMATIK MENYEDARI AKAN HAKIKAT BAHAWA ORANG MELAYU SENDIRI MELAHIRKAN KEKHUATIRAN TENTANG HAL TERSEBUT. TUJUAN TERSIRAT MEREKA ADALAH BAGI MENGUKUHKAN LAGI SISTEM PENDIDIKAN VERNAKULAR DISAMPING MENCANTAS ARGUMENTAS ORANG MELAYU BAHAWA BAHASA MALAYSIA MENJADI BAHASA PENGANTAR. DALAM ERTIKATA LAIN, MEREKA MENEGUK DI AIR KERUH BAGI MEMPERKASAKAN KEDUDUKAN SEKOLAH VERNAKULAR DAN KEMBALI KEPADA STATUS KUO LAMA. MEREKA BERFIKIRAN KAMI BODOH DAN TIDAK PEKA KEPADA MUSLIHAT JAHAT MEREKA.

PENDIRIAN SAYA IALAH KALAU NAK KEMBALI KEPADA PENGAJARAN SAINS DAN MATEMATIK DALAM BAHASA IBUNDA MAKA BAHASA YANG SEWAJARNYA DIGUNA PAKAI IALAH BAHASA MALAYSIA. SEKOLAH VERNAKULAR DITUTUP DAN PELAJARNYA DISERAP KEDALAM SEKOLAH KEBANGSAAN DAN BAHASA IBUNDA MEREKA DIKENDALIKAN DALAM KELAS POL ATAUPUN SEBAGAI BAHASA OPSYEN YANG TERBUKA KEPADA SEMUA KAUM.

JIKA KAUM CINA DAN TERUTAMANYA DONG JIAO ZONG TIDAK MAHU AKUR PADA TINDAKAN TERSEBUT MAKA SAHLAH MEREKA PENGKHIANAT NEGARA DAN HARUS DITENTANG HABIS-HABISAN.BERSAMA-SAMALAH KITA MEMPERKASAKAN BAHASA MALAYSIA BAGI MELAHIRKAN GENERASI BARU YANG AKUR DAN FAHAM AKAN REALITI SOISO-POLITIK TANAHAIR TERCINTA.

WARRIOR 231

Belacak said...

Sdr Rocky,

Dong Jiao Zong telah menjelaskan kenyataan dengan mammoth rally nya membantah pengajaran bahasa Inggeris, manakala HINDRAF telah berjaya dan mendapat peiniktirafan dan anugerah hak asasi kemanusiaan SUARAM.

Bila menilai kembali kandungan tuntutan Hindraf kepada Kerajaan Malaysia dan Queen of England timbul juga dihati bahawa sepatutnya orang MELAYU lah yang bangkit membuka jalan membuat tuntutan seperti yang di utarakan oleh Hindraf itu!.

Kerugian telah dan sedang dialami oleh seluruh keturunan Melayu gara-gara tindakan British membawa secara beramai-ramai pendatang dari Negeri China dan India ke Tanah Melayu.

Akibat daripada tindakan tamak British untuk mengaut hasil bumi Tanah Melayu telah menyebabkan orang-orang Melayu yang menjadi pribumi di tanah bertuah ini menderita kehilangan tanah, terpinggir, hilang hak dan kemakmuran.

Satu tindakan harus dimulakan untuk menfailkan tuntutan kepada kerajaan British atas kerugian dan penafian hak yang dialami oleh generasi keturunan Melayu akibat penghijrahan beramai-ramai pendatang pendatang ini.

Antara tututan yang boleh dibangkitkan (mungkin boleh ubahsuai) :


1). Menuntut Kerajaan British meminta maaf diatas tindakan membawa masuk pendatang cina dan india beramai-ramai ke Tanah Melayu sehingga Melayu kehilangan hak ke atas tanah, hasil bumi dan kemakmuran (termasuk kehilangan wilayah : Singapura dan Pulau Pinang.)


2). Menuntut Kerajaan British membayar ganti rugi sebanyak RM 3 Trillion sebagai pampasan kepada seluruh orang Melayu.


3). Mempersembahkan kepada Raja-Raja Melayu agar Kerajaan Malaysia menggubal undang- undang bahawa hanya orang Melayu sahaja yang berhak mengundi dan memilih pemerintah atau wakil mereka.


4). Mempersembahkan kepada Raja-Raja Melayu agar menitahkan kepada Perdana Menteri Malaysia mengagihkan keuntungan Petronas kepada setiap keluarga Melayu sebagai ganti rugi kehilangan hak keatas tanah, ekonomi, adat resam, bahasa dan kemakmuran Melayu sejak kedatangan pendatang.


5). Lain-lain yang difikirkan sesuai dan berkaitan.

Rakan-rakan blogawan boleh memperbaiki lagi cadangan ini. Barangkali inilah satu - satunya cara terbaik untuk memulihkan semula keyakinan dan semangat orang Melayu. Kini Sudah sampai masanya!.

Anonymous said...

He said Dong Jiao Zong feels that the teaching of Science and Maths in English is currently the greatest threat to Chinese education.

THERE U HAVE IT, THE GHETTO MENTALITY OF THE CHINESE COMING TO THE FORE.BE IT ENGLISH OR MALAY, THE ENDGAME IS THE SAME. EITHER LANGUAGE WILL DESTROY CHINESE EDUCATION BY EXTENSION CHINESE CULTURE AND THE CHINESE WAY OF LIFE. IT IS THE SCUM'S WAY OF SAYING: I AINT GONNA BE BANGSA MALAYSIA, NO MATTER WHAT..MAN, I GONNA SIT IN MY TRENCH AND TALK SHIT ABOUT BEING MALAYSIAN BUT I AINT GONNA LIGT ONE FINGER TO LOSE MY CHINESENESS. SCUM..BY THAT LOGIC U HAVE NO FUCKING RIGHT TO QUESTION OUR KETUANAN CONCEPT FOR IF EDUCATION IS AN EMOTIVE ISSUE FOR YOU CULTURE, RACE AND RELIGION ARE EMOTIVE ISSUES FOR US. SO CHINGKIES AND CHINGKIE LOVVAS,EAT THE SHIT AND LICK THE URINE THAT YOU PEOPLE HAVE DISGUSTINGLY LEFT ON THE SOCIALSCAPES OF OUR COUNTRY IN RECENT MEMORY. ORGANISE A MASS EATING REVELRY FOR THAT PURPOSE..I AM SURE THE POLICE WILL ISSUE U SCUM THE RELEVANT PERMITS.

WARRIOR 231

Sinatra_Z said...

It is guilds and association like Jiao Zong that is one of the main hindrance towards a bangsa malaysia concept. It is movement like this that hinders, refuse to let our children to integrate and even mix with each other. It's the insistence on a parallel, different education stream and a different Lingua Franca medium that keeps our children separated and alienated from each other.

I am amazed at how some quarters who is supposed to be the champion of Bangsa Malaysia can at the same time be the chief defenders of this separate education system. Is Bangsa Malaysia only applicable when discussion about Open Tenders? Questioning why would there be a Bumiputra partner in a business? ISA? 7 percent house discount?

Is Bangsa Malaysia not an identity before anything else. Identity must first be forged through education, it amazes me at how some are so oblivious to the face whey there is no Bangsa Malaysia when we have this parallel education that separates our children instead of unite them.

If Jiao Zong insist on Chinese Language medium, Chinese textbooks and even Chinese values and education system perhaps it's time they stop and think whether they really want to be Malaysians or Chinese Citizens living in Malaysia. Integration and one school system is the way. And if they want their demo so be it, but don't justify and try to sugar coat it by using Bangsa Malaysia as an excuse.

Anonymous said...

Kudos to AAB, his cronies n spy network...

DONG KEY

SYap said...

Er, what is this mother tongue education? I thought Malaysia Chinese speaks Hokkein or Cantonese so why is Mandarin the mother tongue? Many friends and neighbours of mine don't even speak Mandarin but send their kids to be educated in Mandarin.So where is the mother tongue element here?

Maybe mother country eh?

Moo.. said...

Cannot blame those selfish dudes, if teaching of maths and english is successful, those selfish dudes will be out of job.

If their argument holds waters, than it will also be a threat to Bahasa Malaysia too.

poh yoke said...

I disagree with Dong Jiao Zong. The fact that the teaching of Science and Maths in English has not been effective may be reflective of the calibre of the teachers and the curriculum rather than the language in which the subject is taught.Surely the fact that some of the latest scientific research and their publications are in English in prestigious journals says something for the teaching of the language in English. I had often interviewed Chinese educated students who could not even understand requirements in the application forms. Furthermore, most of the Malaysian graduates whom I have met, are unable to read English language research journals and even news magazines due to a poor command of the language. We should put aside all this nonsense of language based on racial considerations and choose what will be helpful to our future generation and enable them to be truly well educated.

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Anonymous said...

Fuck that RACIST Dong

Pasquale said...

This is what happens when we have a weak prime minister, wake up morons!

Anonymous said...

The Chinese have this mentality that everything should be handle within the family. Why should we ask others to meddle in our family matters, right?

James

Anonymous said...

So race politics is back on the cards?

MM

Sick&Tired said...

Dong(o), have you ever heard a chinese educated person speak English before? I have several colleagues who are from Chinese schools, and their command of English is very poor. Sometimes I have difficulty understanding them!

Why can't we just look past the racial crap and do whats best for the people! Whether we like it or not, English is the most used language, and its important that the younger generation learn it at an early age. After my SPM, I had a difficult time learning Biology & Chemistry in English.

Stupid, selfish and narrow minded people.

Kong-Kay said...

we don't need the police to stop the rally... just invite namawee to sing his latest hit to get the point across to those numbskulls

Pune Deck said...

Racist Chinese!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

wow!massive protest action!may i asked?
IN WHAT FORM? naked?

don't X over dong!

MASSTROOPER

Anonymous said...

Rocky,

All this SJK thingy is PURELY $$$$.

By having SJK, that is the only way they can communicate effectively,
Hokkien,Hakka, Cantonese, Teochew, Mandarin, Hainanese, Min Bei,
Foochow and so on. Even a cantonese from different state cannot understand one another, except if they communicate in Mandarin.

These special bred parasites are protectors of their own "PERIUK NASI" only.

They are not Interested in BM because they have no interest to communicate effectively with other races here. Not economically productive.. HAH??? Tak kan tak faham BAHASA kut?

Might as well ask them to put a BIG SIGNBOARD/BANNER in front of all their business premises "BUMIPUTRAS BANNED - NO ENTRY".

HABIS CERITA. FULLSTOP, CLOSE CASE.

ECONOMIST

rubber biscuit said...

bloggers,

just let the students and their parents decide.

I wonder if in China, be it 5000 years ago under the emperors until the current government, they give Dong this kind of freedom.....

straycat's strut said...

I would say so too Rocky, bring em and let them have their day on the street. The malays should hold a demo side by side with the dong zhong or whatever for the preservation of ketuanan melayu. You take yours, I'll keep mine.

The way I see it, these are a bunch of hypocrites who would not sacrifice an inch but demand the whole mile.

Damansara said...

PLEASE READ THIS MINUS ANY RACIAL SENTIMENT

In the true spirit of Bangsa Malaysia, let us all stop living along racial lines.

No more special privileges to any race. ONLY privileges to all Malaysian citizens.

Affirmative action to all Malaysian in needs. Thus together we close the wealth disparity gap. Together we prosperous in this land we dearly call My Homeland.

The mother tongue of all Malaysian is Bahasa Malaysia. That is our National language.

What is the point talking about Bangsa Malaysia when the ‘mother tongue’ from our previous country is still in our heart? We must decide once and for all; WHERE IS OUR HOME?

We are all born and raised in this country called Malaysia.

Let’s have a Mammoth Demo to support that.

SATU BANGSA, SATU BAHASA, SATU NEGARA.

Anonymous said...

Rocky,

Just give what they want.

Then let them finance fully their own schools.

These people use Malaysia as their transit point only.

Let them master their mother tongue so they, hopefully soon, on their own, feel very comfortable to return home and finally be accepted with open arms by their ORIGINAL MOTHERLAND, and leave us in PEACE.

MOTHERLAND

AnakMelaka said...

reason why there's an increase students in SRJK is because perceive quality NOT because of mandarin languages. That's why you see increase in NON Chinese enrollment.

If we have a choice of English medium schools in Sek Kebangsaan like in the 60s, SRJKs & Sek Agama will die naturally and the Dongs will be out of a job!

Anonymous said...

UMNO is Racist and this Dong Kee is equally racist.I love to see them meet on a join mammoth demo!

In the meantime, PKR,DAP and PAS, where do you stand?

Brunt Council said...

I remember the rallies on 11th and 12th Mei 1969 ...

... we never learn. I can bet the racial slurs will come with the demo.

History always repeat itself. I hope it does not but with Abdullah still at the helm, he can't do nothing. It will repeat itself.

It is time Najib show he got his dick in his pants and prove it is not kept lock by Rosmah.

Kick Dolah out now! ISA all those segregationaist Dongs. Otherwise ...

Next time no more excuse, negotiation and pleads. Integrate fuckers or go back by the millions to India and China!!!!!!!!

This Malay Nusantara, remember that!

Anonymous said...

Looking forward for cheap real estate in chinese areas ... hehehe

Pembawa beg permaidani

Anonymous said...

BANNED THE CHINESE SCHOOLS!

BANNED THE TAMIL SCHOOLS!

BANNED ALL INTERNATIONAL SCHOOLS!

BANNED ALL COLLEGES THAT CONDUCT THEIR COURSES IN ENGLISH!

BANNED ALL UNIVERSITIES THAT CONDUCT COURSES IN ENGLISH!!!!!!!!

-CRACKODOLLAH

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Damansara said...

My view on the issue of teaching Math and Science in English.

It’s very disheartening, and to certain extends very embarrassing, should we decide to reverse the decision made by Tun Mahathir some 7 years ago.

We clearly failed to understand the challenge and rationale behind this move. Instead of pulling our sleeves and makes things happen, we decide to be emotional i.e. our usual selves.

We claimed to love our children, but yet making decision on their future based on low class ego and unfounded worries.

Ah Beng Crosby said...

Actually no need to strike, life will still go on as normal. As for Dongjiazong, even though I am a Malaysian of chinese origin, I don't know who they are, don't have the interest to know who they are and don't care who they are.

What I hope is the government reintroduce English medium school to the country with the criteria of passing the Bahasa Malaysia with at least a credit a compulsory requirement. Raise the bar for the Bahasa Malaysia and we shall have a high level of proficiency of Bahasa Malaysia, we will have everyone enrolling their kids into such school. We killed so many birds with one stone.

As of learning of mother tongue, we can always send our children to numerous tuition center for such purpose, not a big deal, but bring back the english medium school. Then we will have a real muhibbah environment for our kids.

ewoon said...

Big Dong Rally?

my, what has this country become? we love to be No.1 in everything we do, i can understand. But this? Come on, where is our dignity. i hope this will be an all-adult show; no kids below 21 okay.

hehe

BTW, congratulations bro for crossing 8 million hits!

Anonymous said...

He is another idiot!

upset

bzz said...

Bro,

Saya cadangkan kita kembalikan semula Math dan Sains ke bahasa ibunda. TAk payah dlm English. Sebab takde orang putih pun dlm sekolah ni.

Kemudian kita introduce je pembelajaran Math dan Sains dalam bahasa ibunda kita. Versi bahasa Melayu, India, Mandarin, Kantonis, Kadasan, Dusun, Iban, Bajau, Jawa dan lain-lain lagi. Lebih baik kalau kita adakan juga dalam dialek negeri. Math dan sains dlm percakapan orang Kelantan atau Penang.

Soal translate tu tak perlu risau. Kita tukar DBP. Jadi DBBP. Dewan Bahasa-bahasa dan Pustaka.

Malah, tahun depan kita tukar nama jalan ikut bahasa Malaysia, Bahasa Pelancongan dan bahasa tempatan. Translate terus pun boleh! Pantai Batu Buruk kita panggil Ugly Rock Beach. Bandaraya Kucing, kita letak signboard... Cat!

Apa macam Bro? Ok ka?

Anonymous said...

As a non Chinese, I'm perplexed as to why we should even bother resisting their demands. What do the rest of us have to gain by fighting them tooth and nail over this?

If they want to pander to their parochial mentality and get left behind, then I say let them.

As long as my own kids can continue learning Science and Math in English, why the heck should I even care?

Oik

Anonymous said...

Ya all have reached the crossroads. Hope you take the right turn. Otherwise, it's hasta la vista Malaysia!


miguel

Anonymous said...

Mother tongue? I bet 99% of the Malaysian Chinese mother tongue is not Mandarin.

My mother tongue is Cantonese. Shouldn't I go to a Cantonese school?

Anonymous said...

Ya all have reached the crossroads. Hope you take the right turn. Otherwise, it's hasta la vista Malaysia!


miguel

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Knights Templar said...

Donno about you guys ....but the Song sung by the Dong about all the Wongs can go all day Long.If they want schools in their mother tongue...it should be in Cantonese..Hokkien..Hakka..Teochiu..Hainanese.. Hokchiu..Mandarin is the mother tongue of Taiwan and and Mainland China.THE Indians can have it in Tamil...Malayalam..Telegu..Bengali...Punjabi and Urdu ...
Bahhh ...Bunch Of Bonobos Behind a Bush !

Anonymous said...

why dont u all get it yet? There will be no Bangsa Malaysia as there will always be thoughts, talks and actions along racial sentiment. Btw just so to remind u - Self serving politicians and their allies use the term "bangsa malaysia, ketuanan rakyat etc" to gain political miles and create unstability (the lowest form of looking good is by making other look bad and some people are superb at that)
Bumis are urged to wake up and start to reconsider who and what to support. Do not be fooled by those who promised "change", coz change is not always for the better. For all we know, the "change" they have in their head is just from daydream to putrajaya!
For the Bumis, do not let ur rights and pride being kicked around. Stand up for what is right and stay united!
For the ungrateful lots, start counting ur blessings now before you lose them all. bear in mind that equality will never be feasible without "give and take"...

Anonymous said...

you guys are real pathetic! especially you rocky bru! Being TDM supporter, of course, these comments are coming from TDM supporters! Please be warned that don't ask the chinese or indians to go back to china or india. Then, you malays better go back to Indon! IT IS A FACT THAT THE INDIANS HAVE BEEN MARGINALISED IN THIS COUNTRY AND I DON'T BLAME THEM FOR WANTING TO BE HEARD BY THE SUPREMO UMNOPUTRAS! WHERE ELSE CAN THEY BE HEARD? THROUGH PROPER CHANNELS, MY FOOT!

ANYWAY, I AM CHINESE AND EVEN THOUGH I DON'T SUPPORT THIS CAMPAIGN OF DONG, I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT OUR COUNTRY DO AWAY WITH THE COMPULSORY PASSING OF BM IN SPM. IMAGINE PEOPLE HAVING STRAIGHTS As AND FAILED THEIR BM, THEY FAILED THE WHOLE SPM!!! WHERE GOT MEANING-WAN? AS THOUGH BM IS INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNISED. COME ON, GROW UP!

Anonymous said...

cheezed-off

teohjitkhiam said...

Komen tulis 'capital letter', berapi-api plak tu. Tapi heran, nama sebenar tak berani letak. Biar betul lu, mamat. Kalau tahap buang batu, sembunyi tangan, eleh, nenek kat Kuala Terengganu pun boleh la. Ciittt poodah!

mut said...

Ooooohh nice !

Now the call of Dong Jiao Zong is being met with the same response as Mukhriz's comments regarding vernacular eduaction - smart move by the Association I say.

So now we say UMNO pls shut the fuck up if you do not want to compromise, and DJZ, also pls shut the fuck up if they do not want to compromise. Status quo?

Nice... only that now UMNO wants to redefine the right to vernacular education like the way they want to define special rights of the Malays. (Sure UMNOPutera untung one - screw the spirit of the constitution - and screw the non-UMNO Malays as well)

"All in all, you keep what's yours, and I'll keep what's mine" and no cempien bangsa here (sorry Mukhriz, you need to win UMNO Youth votes the normal bribery er, politik wang way!) if the status quo remains.

Let the Chinese eduationists fund their system as always, and UMNO dominate the national schools with their machais. WTF should they bother with each other's turf? It's the exams that determine the success of the system. Or is it UMNO now one-upmanship coming into the picture that the AGM is around the corner?

That is my take on this wayang kulit before us.

When I was in school everything was in BM. No worries. Except English. My English turned out OK (I think). Many others still do not understand the lines from a movie - the last movie that created such a confusion was Quantum of Solace - the twists lost some of my friends - and there were both Malay and Chinese. Tough, but there you go where English mastery is concerned even after 11 compulsory years.

Hum ho hum .....

nstman said...

A. Kadir Jasin is a racist. Kadir is an agent provocateur. he is spreading rumours about the mammoth rally to instigate the Malays. Kadir has done enough damage to race relations in the country. He raped and looted the NST. Now he wants to wreak more havoc. Beware of him.

MoneyMatters said...

Hahaha..

All the while, the chinese community were in denial state. They just think of their 'periuk nasi'. We see how they want to organise the demo. DJZ should be sent back to China. They have never think of National Interest.Non of their TOP LEADER can speak bahasa but still claim that they're a loyal nationalist. No wonder lah.

Sorrylah if my English not really good. Coz I am not living in the UK or US.

Shame on you DJZ.

Dal said...

Taking to the streets?

Yeah and march like soldier ants.

All brawn little brain.

Communications based on feelers and sign language.

Ants. Insects.

Perhaps fogging should dampens spirit a bit. No? Fogging is strictly for mosquitoes?

MoneyMatters said...

Damansara,

I am Malay and I support ur stand. If those racist said Bahasa Malaysia has no ECON VALUE. Let us get our Malay Brother to boycott Chinese Businesses for just one week. And see how they would survive with that.

Dont underestimate your National Language. No one will do that if you're in France, Japan, Korea or in Indonesia. You will be a dead man by saying so.

Anonymous said...

Bro,

Its OK for them to go ahead for mammoth demo. The Indians had done their part, now its the turn of the Chinese to show their true colors.

Then PERKASA's turn to follow suit with a demand that unsatisfied Hindraf & Jiao Zong members to please pack up and leave for the country of your choice and let other faithful Malaysians in peace.

moz

ChengHo said...

Dong will never survive in Singapore not to mention in China they will never tolerate with monkey business
Malaysian goverment too weak to handle explosive and chauvanism issues
Very good test case for Najib how to manage Dong, peoples are watching ,read sun tzu's art of war how to organise the marching order .

Anonymous said...

Rocky,

Hasn't anyone ever pondered that it is perhaps Mukhriz's latest call to the govt to ban vernacular schools that prompted Dong Jiao Zhong with this latest threat which would play into UMNO's hands to destabilize the situation to cause another May 13 riots? Why only out of the blue did Dong come out with this threat when all the time it had opposed teaching of Maths & Science in English. Don't forget that Mukhriz is not any ordinary UMNO member but an UMNO youth presidential aspirant who has the support of his father ex-PM Mahathir now making a comeback in mainstream policies. Don't only blame Dong Z J, but also UMNO extremists like Mukhriz who, instigated by his father, are trying to provoke another May 13 by incitement. Dong J Z has wittingly or unwittingly fallen into UMNO's trap to provoke racial tension by starting another May 13 which would give UMNO the excuse to declare emergency rule and put an end to all the opposition's gains in the last GE.

The Chinese should not support DJZ's threat, let them fizzle out and deny UMNO the opportunity to start another May 13.

Pragmatist

Anonymous said...

Rocky,

Sediakan kapal. Bungkus masuk. Isi tangki dengan minyak Petronas banyak2.
Pastikan cukup bekalan air dan makanan.

Nah, ask them to go Demo and melalak kat mana suka... AND DON'T COME BACK!!
Lets tell them they are not welcome to stay here..

Menyemak saja.

Anonymous said...

hehehe kita melayu tengok ja dulu cina.hindu buat demo.

biasa la golongan minoriti selalu rasa depa kuat sangat bila dapat kumpul puluh ribu atas jalan

lepas tu turn melayu pulak turun berdemo berjuta orang atas jalan raya.

lepas tu melayu ramai bawak parang zass aje pendatang tak sedar dek untung macam dong ni

ingat la cina dan hindu,sabar melayu ada hadnya.bila melayu dah start amuk memang susah nak berhenti....

Anonymous said...

bangsa pendatang cina memang menyusahkan mana2 negara yang mereka duduk

tengok thailand sekarang....segala kekecohan politik bermula dari seorang cina bernama thaksin,yang cuba melemahkan pengaruh raja thai yang berketurunan siam.mujur bangsa siam jati bangkit melawan rancangan jahat thaksin

lihat di singapura.orang melayu disingkirkan secara beransur2 dan dipaksa pindah ke kawasan2 majoriti cina.tujuannya untuk mengelakkan orang melayu bersuara menentang PAP

malaysia akan turut dihuru harakan bangsa cina? tak mustahil akan berlaku

cuba perhatikan di penang...orang melayu dipaksa menyerahkan tanah2 kepada kerajaan negeri.mereka dibayar pampasan rendah...yang langsung tidak setimpal.tanah2 ini kemudiannya dibina rumah2 mewah yang hanya mampu dibeli oleh cina2 kaya...termasuk dari KL,perak dll

orang melayu? hehe terpaksa la keluar dari penang sebab tak mampu nak beli rumah2 yang mahal.terpaksa hijrah ke kedah dan utara perak

bijak kan strategi pendatang cina menghalau orang melayu dari negeri nenek moyang mereka sendiri?

-anak melayu tanah melayu

Anonymous said...

Here we go round the mulberry bush once again.

What next?

Let's have a rally because my neighbour's dog went missing!

A GOOD MAN DOES NOTHING.

Anonymous said...

This fucking dong chinese should be gratefull that even how fucking irritating they are to the Malays, they will not end up like the chinese in Tianemen square China.. same to you fucking hindraf.

Why? the only reasons is becoz you are living with the Malays.. if the Malays are so evil like your own kind in China..none of u chingkies would be around to spewed all those fucking irritating provocation like today after 1969..

Dato Harun should had finished his job when he got the chance with this troublemakers..too bad coz he was a Malay...

So be grateful you morons to be born in this blessed country.. if not you fucking moron would not be able to be literated or even speak english in your motherland..

mothertongue eh? I say its a motherfucker..
stupid..

-anti hindraf & ultra chingkies-

satD said...

Salam Bro Rocky

First i think it is near impossible to yank out S Jenis Kebangsaan out of the system in one go...we must apply a phased approach....integrate them into the national system first by improving their ability in our National Language...then slowly increase the national language content...until it is fully integrated....do we even have enough teachers to handle the situation???? Imagine a 16 year old with a 8 year old ability in national language....it will be an overwhelming situation based on existing resources...

http://satdthinks.blogspot.com/2008/12/stress-testing-logic-of-vernacular.html

Anonymous said...

I suggest that Ong Chiaw Chuan"s name be changed to Ahmad Mazuki Chin Chiau --just like in Thailand and Indonesia.


manaboleh

Anonymous said...

Hi All,

All comments towards Chinese in Malaysia is groundless. First of all, you must ask yourself, why so many Malay / India are willing to send their Children to Chinese School?

Couldn't you admit this is a fact?

Did you ask youself how many rural students facing the problem of learning maths and science? How many of them is Malay / India?

If you do not understand Chinese / Mandarin, you shouldn't give opinion, especially those are groundless, on this language.

Reading Syap post as follows: "I thought Malaysia Chinese speaks Hokkein or Cantonese so why is Mandarin the mother tongue?" ... I laughed cynically ... sorry I can't help to laugh. SYap does not even understand what is Chinese / Mandarin.

Let me explain to you, Chinese can be pronounced many ways, whether using Mandarin (this is taught in School, and it is Hanyu Pinyin), Hokkein, Cantonese, etc. The way of writing the word is same; only the way of pronouncing it is different. Understood now?

China is emerging economic giant, and Chinese is not only important to be learned, but mastered as well.

If you Malay/India who can read/write Chinese, congratulation to you. You have better advantage in the new era as China is replacing Japan as 2nd largest economic system in the world.

Now is recession, but China still can maintain 8% growth on their economics. Why? Didn't you ask yourself? Don't you think that it is a chance for you or your future generation if you / they can read/write Chinese?

Language does not belong to anyone! Malay does not belong to Malay; all can learn Malay. Chinese as well, and Chinese people do not bar your from learning Chinese, if you are willing to do so.

Please think of your future generation, if your children cannot master Maths and Science as they are taught in English, what are their future?

Learning new thing at the begining of age should be taught in their mother-tongue.

Malay's mother tongue is Malay; Chinese is Chinese, and India is Tamil; hence Maths and Science should be taught in mother-tongue.

CK

Omong said...

bantahan harus dibuat oleh orang melayu supaya England mengambil balik kuli-kuli dan keturunan mereka keEngland untuk dijadikan rakyat mereka

disana mereka-mereka ini dipersilakan menjerit dan mendesak supaya diadakan sekolah "vernacular"

Malaysia tak akan "bankrupt" tanpa "taxes" mereka

Omong said...
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Sinatra_Z said...

Source : UrbanDictionary.com

Dong : The word for a large penis, as opposed to wiener, which makes it sound short.

Which then makes the sentence
"Dong promises mammoth rally" a whole new meaning.

Damn!!

hahahahahahahahahaha

Anonymous said...

Brother Rocky,

this issue has been simmering, its going to blow out into the open. mark my words. as i have commented at Datuk Scribe's blog, Malays have very high tolerance level but once they get angry the will go "mengamok' and blood will spill.

Tanah ini adalah tanah Melayu. Tanah ini adalah rumpun tanah Melayu (Malay Archipelago). Any of the commentators who comments that we Malaysian Malay to go back to Indonesia is really dumb and stupid and don't know their history. This is our land. Persekutuan Tanah Melayu and not persekutuan tanah china atau india.

You want your chinese language and culture, you are free to have them in Mainland China. You want indian language and culture please do so on the Indian sub continent.

Otherwise refrain from flaming the Malay sentiments because you do not want to have any "keris or parang to terbang and melayang"

Dont forget the lessons learn from 13th May 1969.

Keturunan Jebat

caravanserai said...

The Dong sings the blues
Fighting to teach mother tongue
I wonder what it is
It isn’t Mandarin
It is in the Chinese dialects

Massive rally to push a point
The Dong now gets carried away
This is Malaysia
The official language is Malay
English is cultivated to spray the world
Enrich knowledge quickly and be smart on it

The Dong harping on the wrong
Mandarin isn’t the mother tongue of the Chinese
Not many Chinese know Mandarin
They are good with their own mother tongue
The Chinese dialects……….

The Dong is wrong
I don’t support its view and stand
Accept it in Malay or English
Don’t use Mandarin to say
It is Chinese mother tongue!

The cake is cut and divided
Amongst the groups to coexist
The standard bearer should be in Malay language
When you want to interact into the world
English language is still the better choice
To do business and to capture knowledge and skills
It is where the world understands it

Does the Dong understand it?
We aren’t living in China or Taiwan
We are here in Malaysia

Don’t sing the blues Dong
You can be gone…………
Not every Chinese support your stand
It is better to study Rotary Club
The 4 Ways test before you strum your blue away

Anonymous said...

Rocky,
Mereka semua ni dah kehabisan pelaburan. Semua pasaran tradisi dan keagungan mereka, longlai... poket dah bocok, seluar dah hampir londeh!!

Cuba nak hakiskan Hak Bumi, segerit 30%, cuba hapuskan ISA, macajm jadah lagi.. cuba menyalak yang Tanjung tu, tak habis nak duit Petronas...

Sekarang nak bagi semua orang huru hara susah macam depa...

Buat Demo, kita ikut teladan Negara Cina.. Bawa steamroller, gelek saja. Orang nak cakap banyak? Ask them to refer to China.

Mungkin cara ni saja yang dapat mengajar mereka jangan KURANG AJAR.

MULA BERAHI NIH

BlueMoon said...

Clearly Dong Jiao Zong is the gretest treat to national security and stability. Like HINDRAF this organization survives, lives and thrives on racist card. DJZ should be banned for once and for all. Arrest their leaders and sympthasisers and ask them to choose either to go to Kemunting and take a one way ticket back to their homeland

Anonymous said...

i support that we have a single educational system with bahasa malaysia as the main medium and english as the second medium. perhaps we have 60% subjects in bahasa malaysia and rest in english. all schools to have one session with morning session. afternoon session is for each species to back to their own cocoon, (e.g. malay to religious school, indian to tamil school, chinese to chinese school, or what ever school parents want to send their children to - music, ballet, etc etc).

if Dong want to do mammoth rally, let them do it and i really hope that it will be really MAMMOTH. indian has done their part. if this one get really big, then malay have a good reason to hold the final one, and a super duper mammoth. then once for all, we going to make sure we use this opportunity to do clean up, really clean that after this we dont have issue with race anymore. never mind that malaysia will be in turbulence for few years, but if the malay can have a fresh start for malaysia, why not. we are going to face global economic turmoil after all, so it just the right time to put malaysia in deep shit.

Dong, your call.

or we maintain status-quo. chinese continue to be towkey in poultry and veg plantation, indian do the cage cleaning and veg lorry driver, and malay is the loyal customer. shame on you malay, talk about ketuanan but even your food you cannot prepare your own. if you think that your fav ikan keli is supplied by malay, you are wrong!

raz

sfso@pulaijb said...

BAGI MUKA SANGAT INILAH JADINYA.....BANGSA MALAYSIA KONON...PIRAHHH

Anonymous said...

i send my two kids to chinese schools. but sucks, i am all for maths and science to be in english.
whats the big shit deal, you idiots with english as the medium.

antubiul said...

Belacak... Aku Sokong kau.

Hidung kemek pipi tersorong sorong.

Anonymous said...

This dongjiazong is a samseng kia group. They think the goverment are going to let them have their day. I bet ISA will be used against these racists chink under their guise as educationists group.

Anyway I heard that ISA has a few more vacancies left after they released a few religion extremists.So no problemo few racists chink ringleader will be rounded up. Thank God for ISA. It protect the majority against a few racist chinks!

-rocksteady-

ewoon said...

Just read Michael Chick's "Malaysian Chinese Are Stupid."

Does it apply to all the Dong-heads? Yes? No?

Go read lah here ...
http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/1958/46/

I had a very good laugh. hehe

eddy said...

The Government has a huge decision to make in respect to teaching of Science and Mathematics in English, to continue or not to continue. Of course the supporting side will come out with their own statistics and arguments which basically says that our young will not be left behind in the quest for knowledge in this increasingly globalized world while the opposing side especially the Dong Zong will have their own selfish and chauvinistic argument also which basically say that Science and Mathematic if taught in English will be a threat to Chinese education in Mandarin.

I support the teaching of Science and Mathematics in English for the young starting from primary school. I believe the primary consideration of all parents is that their children will get the best education possible. Proficiency in Bahasa Melayu and English will benefit all Malaysian Citizens locally and Globally. The teaching of Science and Mathematics in English is a good start for all but needs time to be assimilated, and THE GOVERNMENT MUST HAVE THE POLITICAL WILL AND THE STEELY RESOLVE TO SEE THE POLICY THROUGH TO GET THE DESIRED POSITIVE EFFECT. NO flip flops this time please.

If the Dong Zong wants to hold a mammoth procession let them be, if they do it peacefully, then fine, if they want to turn it into a political rally and make it ugly, then, the Government should apply the full force of our Law against these persistent troublemakers. Alternatively, give the Dong Zhong what they want and have Mandarin be taught for Science and Mathematics but KEEP THIS POLICY FOR THE NATIONAL SCHOOLS.

When positive results start coming in through the use of this Policy, which I am sure it will, then I bet RM10 that many Moderate thinking Chinese Malaysian Parents who like other Malaysians we know only wants what is best for their children, will wonder whether they have been taken for a ride by the Chinese Educationists policy of segregrating themselves from the majority of the population and start sending their children to the National schools. This could be a death kneel for the Chinese vernacular schools, one can see why Najib came out with a statement recently that the vernacular schools will be around as long as the Chinese and Indians wants them. Hence, this is the real fear of the Chinese educationist.

Whatever the pros and cons are, the Government MUST decide for what is best for Malaysia and the majority of the population in General NOT for minority pressure group like the Dong Zong who zealously wants to segregate themselves from the majority of the population and imposed their will on the majority. Remember that these are the very same selfish people who refuse to cooperate and make the Wawasan school idea work.

romerz said...

Myopic Dong-keys

http://romerz.blogspot.com/2008/12/myopic-dong-keys.html

Anonymous said...

These fucked up pendatangs ...tak sedar di untung ..nak threaten konon....These Dong-Dong should be sent back to their country, China. Malaysia is NOT their country. Want to demand this demand that, go to France or USA, try to demand lah .....You guys will be sent back PRONTO lah to China or India .

..... And that goes to those Indian stupid chauvinists....tak mahu tutup SJKT konon, podaah ...stupid fucking buggers....

U guys prefer to be just together within yr own communities and not to integrate/assimilate with the Malays. And call yourselves Malaysian...what a joke, man!!

Btw, Malays are not pendatangs in Malaysia because Malaysia is part of NUSANTARA MELAYU or Malay Archipelago for those who are really BODOH...or pretend to be ignorant..we can go anywhere in the Nusantara....we will always be Malay ...the indigenous people, got it????

Sorry Bro Rocky, sudah geram sangat...Kasi muka nak kepala dorang ni......Hopefully the Malaysian Govt will not give them face anymore, no more tolak ansur ...enough is enough ....GO TO HELL, you ungrateful morons !!!!


FED UP LASS
Untuk Malaysia Tercinta

Anonymous said...

These fucked up pendatangs ...tak sedar di untung ..nak threaten konon....These Dong-Dong should be sent back to their country, China. Malaysia is NOT their country. Want to demand this demand that, go to France or USA, try to demand lah .....You guys will be sent back PRONTO lah to China or India .

..... And that goes to those Indian stupid chauvinists....tak mahu tutup SJKT konon, podaah ...stupid fucking buggers....

U guys prefer to be just together within yr own communities and not to integrate/assimilate with other Malaysians especially the Malays. And call yourselves Malaysian...what a joke, man!!

Btw, Malays are not pendatangs in Malaysia because Malaysia is part of NUSANTARA MELAYU or Malay Archipelago for those who are really BODOH...or pretend to be ignorant..we can go anywhere in the Nusantara....we will always be Malay ...the indigenous people, got it????

Sorry Bro Rocky, sudah geram sangat...Kasi muka nak kepala dorang ni......Hopefully the Malaysian Govt will not give them face anymore, no more tolak ansur ...enough is enough ....GO TO HELL, you ungrateful morons !!!!


FED UP LASS
Untuk Malaysia Tercinta

nstman said...

My message to my Malay brothers. Dont threaten to run amok when the chips are down. This is the 21st century. By running amok, you destroy the country. Dont forget, Malays have made great strides and they have come a long way since May 13. Except for engineering and accountacy, Malays dominate the professions. You have everything to lose. So dont be stupid. This is the 21st century. This is not the age of Hang Tuah. Don't be influenced by hate-mongers and old-style jingoists like Kadir Jasin, the man who destroyed journalism.

Anonymous said...

Saya sokong Dong.Dia ada valid point which Malays or pseudo-Mat Salleh Malaysians (pro English) failed to see.Maths and Science deal with concepts.Concepts mean understanding through language.Kalau bukan mother tongue, mampukah sesiapa memahami concepts? Di mana di dunia ini, manusia campakkan bahasa sendiri dan spent billions developing and supporting languages of former colonisers? Hanya di Malaysia! Sesiapa support English, dia bodoh.

Din Mertabak

takemoto said...

Hello Rocky, 1st time commenter here, and i've been reading your blog for more than a year, due to the rash and emotional posts that have been received here I think I need to make a statement to set the record straight.

I'm a 21 year-old Malaysian Chinese who is a product of a Chinese Vernancular School studying overseas. I've done my education up to STPM level and was caught in the transition of Science and Maths to English. I do NOT agree with what the Dong Jiao Zhong claims about reverting those subjects back to Mandarin in primary school.

To question my eligibility to comment, I've even done some temporary teaching at a National School after my STPM while waiting for my results to come out. I know as much as most teachers on the pain of teaching and changing a something that should've been kept since the 1970s.

I have experienced personally how English has helped me in my course as an engineer overseas and am convinced that this would not only benefit the students but also boost the education system as a whole. I've become used to the acronyms and technical terms of what is taught than my other coursemates from other countries who had their Science and Maths taught their mother tongue. I felt grateful that I was given the oppoturnity to be taught in it and felt the need for others as well in the future.

I'm a harsh critic of the current government and its policies but this is the only policy that I am in support of.

For all of those who are so adamant about learning something in another language, grow up. You can go on and claim advanced countries like Japan who teach in their mother tongue are still advanced, but do remember that the international medium is still in English. We cannot be stubborn and wait for translators to give us a new horizon once in every ten years or so. As all of you here are internet users I bet you'll know that information changes hands in a matter of seconds. What we need is 1st hand information, and English is the way to go. Besides, it is for Maths and Science subjects only, those who are cultural and articstically orientated would not have been affected, am I rght? Those subjects would still be in the mother tonguem it's not like they will teach BM or Mandarin in English.

I question the naivety of the commenters here and feel surprised that such comments are even possible at this time and age.

There is no harm learning another language and it will, I repeat will not affect your culture as a whole. I'm still a Chinese despite being able to speak in 3 languages and 2 dialects, what makes me so different? Instead you are given the oppotunity to understand others rather than suspect others are saying bad things about you in their mother tongue. If given the chance I would happily want Tamil as one of my spoken languages. Why not? It'll give me the advantage in another part of the world. So why the paranoia?

Stop these racist comments. You only shame yourselves by saying these words, you are also a part of hindering national unity.

I've always been proud to say I'm a Malaysian, but do those who claim themselves as owners want to recognize the minorities?

Dong Jiao Zhong does not neccessary reflect the will of the whole minority community, so do not make quick assumptions and brash remarks.

We all know that intergration is inevitable, just how much are we willing to sacrifice to do so? Vernancular schools do work, and I've done reasonably well in my time there. I believe that given good management and shrewd decisions by the proper people, this can also be done to national schools and maybe at that moment in time, vernancular schools can only be regarded as redundant. If not, I will support the presence of these schools.

We've been left far behind, are we willing to fall back even further?

tAkEmOtO

Bolehwood!!! said...

See-bo (die-la in hokkien). Hokkien is my mother-tongue - does that mean I must learn math and science in hokkien-ah?

Like that, I sure fail one la!

Please tell all these ignorant b******s that Mandarin IS NOT the mother tongue for all Malaysian (Chinese) nor is Tamil the mother tongue for all Malaysian (Indians).

English is an International Language and we have no loss but gain by being proficient in it.

Anonymous said...

Bro Rocky,

I can't help but notice that a lot of Malay remarks against the Dong J Z have been wrongly and mischievously directed at the Chinese community in general, deliberately to stoke up racial tensions. I have no doubt that these people are UMNO trouble makers. These people who have been calling the Chinese all kinds of names and telling them to go back to China, should remember their origins as pendatangs too, some no doubt illegal immigrants who should be deported lock stock and barrel to Indonesia, Handramaut or Saudi Arabia.These UMNO people betray their racist tendencies and ought to know Ketuanan Melayu is no better than apartheid which has already gone to the dogs and pigs, and no doubt Ketuanan Melayu would go the same way to. The people have spoken on 8 Mar, and they will speak again to consign UMNO to dustbins of history in the next GE.

The issue here is clear. Dong J Z has made a suggestion which many Chinese also oppose. But why should all you mischievous and trouble makers from UMNO stoop so low as to attack the Chinese comnunity in general, unless of course you deliberately want to achieve UMNO's racist agenda of causing racial trouble.

All you UMNO scumbags are as bad or in fact even worse than the Dong J Z in the sense that you deliberately tarnish all Chinese as Dong J Z supporters which is not true.

Malaysian

mut said...

Antubiul,

Ko kutuk Jawa ker? Sian Herman Tino.... Khir Toyo masuk sekali ker?

...Hidung kemek pipi tersorong sorong... Siti Sara tak termasuk?

Komen pasal Mandarin, Hakka, Kantonis, Hokkien ni semua tak berasas nak mengatakan Mandarin tu bukan Bahasa ibunda.

Sama la macam Bahasa Melayu ada slang Kedah, Kelantan, Perak, Terengganu dsb. Ko ingat kalau dapat PhD dalam BM kat UM ko boleh paham apa makcik kat Pasar Besar Kota Baru tu cakap?

Dulu ada satu artikel dalam majalah penerbangan MAS tak berapa lama dulu yang ditulis seorang Mat Salleh (graduan UM dalam bidang sastera Melayu) - dia ngaku takleh paham dialek Kelantan dan Terengganu walaupun dah bertahun belajar BM dan ada PhD dalam Sastera Melayu !

Ni berbeza dengan Bahasa Malaysia yang diajar disekolah ! Ada faham????

Anonymous said...

Rocky,
The Dong does not represent all the Chinese here. What wrong with teaching math & science in english. What rally? I doubt many will take part. Let the parent decide where to sent their kid to study whether in malay, mandarin, tamil or english. During mamak 21years of rules, our education systems already erode and still the same now. Majority cannot converse well in english. What a waste to our future country. Lot with degree but only jaguh kampung. Wake-up dude.

Regards,
UncleJason

Anonymous said...

Mut,

FAHAM memang faham benar. Tapi yang tak faham sangat, kalau nak satukan komunikasi mengikut MOTHERLAND, apa salah pi saja balik kesana.

Kan lebih mudah, birds of the same flock gather together? SATU BAHASA, SATU BANGSA, SATU BUDAYA SATU NEGARA??

Angkut balik saja anak bini kat TANAH IBUNDA. Yang duk menyemak kat sini APASAL??

IBUNDA

Anonymous said...

Sometimes I wish people could see that organisations like Dong Jiao Zong are not representative of the entire Chinese community.

I'm a Chinese who doesn't have a good grasp of Mandarin or the other dialects because I never went to a vernacular school. But I have a good grasps of Bahasa Malaysia.

Do I get ridiculed by other 'real' Chinese because I can't speak anything Chinese properly? Of course I do.

Do I hold it against them? No I don't.

Do I agree with what DJZ wants? No I don't, but its no point being racist about it.

Just like one commentator pointed out, raising the English teaching standards and ensuring BM is taken seriously will solve most of the problems politicians seem to be having about the policy.

But when I see racist statements, it just goes to show that there are not enough mature or rationale people for this country to actually move forward which is very worrying.

cr

Anonymous said...

aiya!DONG DONG what ever it is!
you promise mammoth rally ya! and don't break the promise cause the bodowi men will be waiting to fuck up with you guys!

KemPas
Darul Takzim

Anonymous said...

" ...good moling, murid-murid ! to-dey we one stardy CO2, karbon dioksida,the car-burn die-outside !
open buku page xxx and lick, ok !
now cikgu go sain-lap, you all come nanti ah , ok !? "

ppl, only 10% guru2 can teach m/s
in proper ingris lah !!

Anonymous said...

(heha): " ...good moling, murid-murid ! to-dey we one stardy CO2, karbon dioksida,the car-burn die-outside !
open buku page xxx and lick, ok !
now cikgu go sain-lap, you all come nanti ah , ok !? "

ppl, only 10% guru2 can teach m/s
in proper ingris lah !!

Anonymous said...

Takemoto,

You are missing Dong's point.I do not think Dong is against picking up another language (English or French or whatever you desire) but that the foundation in learning maths and science ought to be done in one's mother tongue.You are bringing in successful proof of a higher level after you had gone through that initial foundation learning process in YOUR mother tongue.English came later, at a convenientr timeL after you had a good grasp of the subject/s.

English by the way is not the only international language.If we gloat over this and do not see beyond, we end up losers.

Din Mertabak

Anonymous said...

Browsing thru' most of the comments, it is quite frightening that almost all are very racist. What's happening to this country? Must everything link to race, can we think and look from another angle?
Why nobody has ever asked the reason why Dong is against the teaching of M&S in English? Why nobody ask has there enough qulified English profiency teachers to teach M&S in English?
Have you seen the M&S exam answers that the students produced in English? any improvement? The answer is a BIG NO.
So why continue teaching M&S in English? You want to learn English then increase the hours of teaching English, hire qualified English teacher to teach English, that is the straight forward solution.
If our leaders know what is best for the country, then the race based politic should not exist and those racist comments should not be there.

Metta

Anonymous said...

My mum in law hails from Perak, and very popular with all her grandchildren, always comical and fun with her story telling..

A very famous Pamelo seller, "MALI MALI LIMAU MALIS, MAYAK BESAP MAYAK CEDAP.. LIMAU BESAP MALI..was a familiar voice going around for years..

One day he was attacked by a huge tiger, shouted frantically as usual "LIMAU BESAP MALI TORONG, LIMAU BESAP MALI, LIMAU MALI...TORONG TORONG" noone came to his aid thinking that he was actually peddling his PAMELOS and EGGPLANTS!!..

Hehehe... Some of our YB speak this kind of Bahasa Malaysia in Parliament too, will always tickle us the LIMAU slang they use!! 50years, SHAME!!

TIGERMALI

Anonymous said...

Makes one wonder why the teaching of Math and Science in English works in Singapore but not here. Are we so blur?

Nickname: MALAYSIA TAK BOLEH?

Anonymous said...

Aiyooo....rally lagi ka? Remind me on one the cartoon I read in international publication about Bangladesh in 90s...where factories were idle due to numerous rallies they had over there then. Malaysia pun dah kena penyakit nie. In fact one of my clients raised concern on the many rallies he saw in KL ....ini hindraf and PKR punya pasal le (I regret voting for PKR...stupid!!)

On serious note, I support single education system and english for Science & Math. But in order to do it, we need to revamp SK first. If you look properly, many SRK and SMK looks like sekolah agama. Tone down on this part. Let sek agama do their job. Introduce Tamil and Mandarin/others as elective so that others (Indian or Chinese or Kadazan or Malay or...) can learn it too. The more language our kids can hande, the better it is for them. We should also implement good practises found in SJK into SK. Once we introduce this, I beleive most Malaysian will send their kids to SK and enrollment to SJK will decline by itself.

And for DJZ, gov should be firmed in handling them. If ISA is needed here...so be it. Better late than sorry. Lets see if Najib has ball here.

To all Malay here, pls la, no need to shout rasicm or use harsh word. Kesopanan dan kesusilaan should be our first priority. We still can be firm/strong without being rude. Dont let other determine how we should react.
God bless all of us.

Rozi66

lupo said...

am not from umno...but if stupid dong wants to do it...let them and see what will happen

BrightEyes said...

Really amazing seeing the antics of the plastic pendekars over here.

When UMNO people & Utusan were regressively calling for an end to English being taught in schools for Science & Maths, no one made any noise.

Now when the Ding-Dongs display the very same regressive attitude towards English... these plastic pendekars start talking about keris, parang, genocide, May 13, and other bullshit.

Anonymous said...

They should just use English for all subjects and teach Malay, Chinese and Tamil as optional subjects.

As we move towards the new century, we are just going backwards due to our f***-up education system.

Fann said...

Just show how shallow and ignorant of all the posters here. Even i am deeply disappointed by some Chinese posters who have publicly denounce their own roots.

DJZ is the defender of what is left of Chinese in this land. They are only defending the basic rights of learning mother tongue written in the constituion. They are only against the teaching of Science and Maths in English which is consistent with plights of many Malay academician. I don't understand how does that plight be equaled to frank racisism and Chinese superiority. How would the accusation against us be justified. Those foul words and quotation of returning to China only shows the narrowness of ur mind.

By defending our rights of teaching our mother tongue does not collide with efforts of racial integration. In fact, both Bahasa Malaysia and English are given attention in sekolah jenis kebangsaan. In fact, u can c many graduates from sekolah jenis kebangsaan can communicate effectively in three languages. The educational system is not against the aspiration of the country. It is instead the inequality of treatment that parts us apart.

Have DJZ questioned about the special rights of BUMI, BM as the national language, Kings as the head of country? It is UMNO who has openly doomed Bahasa Malaysia, abused NEP, disrespect the kings. By implementing English as the medium of teaching, Bahasa Malaysia has already been doomed of its fate to be a effective intellectual language. I believe Bahasa Malaysia will slowly lose its influence until one day, it will become the endangered language. Then i will pity those that will only cry out in a frantic effort to save what is left.


I scorn upon the ideas of my fellow Chinese who posted here. How could u deny ur root? Those who have taken the language matter lightly, I condemn u for denying ur children of knowing ur origin. Many Chinese in foreign lands are trying to seek their roots, relearn of their lost language and recapture every glimpse of their ancestor's culture, but we Chinese here are instead proud of not knowing their own root, ridiculed the importance of own mother tongue and even supported the abolishment of Mandarin in the educational system. Pathetic

Anonymous said...

1 Mukhriz has touched the hornets nest and now he and the rest of UMNO/Malay must either destroy the nest totally together with the hornets or outrun the bugs!

2 Yes, they have been some price to pay in the implementation of teaching of Math and Science in English that was started 7 years ago. Some of the students did well, others were the collateral damage. But if we did not do it at all, ALL the students would have lost out.

3 I am talking from personal experience -- my 3 children were able to move school, and easily accepted in a new school in China because they did ok in the math and science entrance exams, which were in English. If not for that, they would have to lose a few years in English remedial classes.

4 I am in the business of searching and selecting technical experts for hitech MNCs. If I check the profile of the successful candidates -- they all have the advantage of the English language.

5 It is no secret why the Indians(fr India) are doing much better in international companies, leading global organisations and monopolizing CNN, BCC etc. Why? They have better command of the language compared to the Chinese(form China)!

6 The Chinese are spending billions teaching their students/children English, why are we denying ours?

7 I totally support the promotion of learning once's mother tongue as I also pay for my children to learn Mandarin so that they will benefit from the big China market. But the Global market and the wealth of information from all over the world is better learned through English.

Yes learn Mandarin -- at your own time and your own money!

8 Stop playing politics -- if you want to be in Malaysia, you must embrace what is rigt for the Country. All students in the country must be in ONE school system. It is time to have polical will to do what is right. No more optionalism!


Sayangmalaysia

Anonymous said...

Let's see how the government will act on this DJZ. Hopefully the government action is a proactive one and not a reactive one. We have ISA. Use it on their leaders now.. I believe the time we let DJZ to proceed with their rally, it will turn out ugly. At that time, opposition politicians will use this issue to gain more political ground stoking more racial tension..

Looking some of the comments here, I believe the ISA is still relevant. Maybe it will stay relevant forever in Malaysia. As long as racial segregation in our beloved country is present, I think ISA better ought to stay..

On the other hand, I support Mukhriz idea of one system for all. Just make sure minorities are not deprived of their right to learn their mother tongue. Make it an elective subject. After all, the malay also can benefit from this for having the chance to acquire themselves with other language. I believe this will really help racial unity in our country. BUT unfortunately some politicians will never see this but instead prefer to see our country to be segregated as it is. Maybe Malaysians who have this thought like mine can form a new party to pursue our own idea of Bangsa Malaysia..

ANAK MELAYU DI RUSIA..

BrightEyes said...

Fann said...

>>They are only against the teaching of Science and Maths in English which is consistent with plights of many Malay academician. I don't understand how does that plight be equaled to frank racisism and Chinese superiority.


Sigh... Dong Zhong and the UMNO nazionalists... two sides of the same coin.

As the arguement progresses, we have a whole bunch of Malaysian youngsters with "England no good" or "Inglis tak cun"... and having a hard time competing in this brave new borderless world.

And speaking of roots, my ancestors were from Kinmen/Quemoy... with a grandma being a Medanese Peranakan. That'll make my 'mothertongue' Hokkien, not Mandarin.

Mandarin is some northern language declared to be the official language of the whole of China. Thats it. And while we're on the issue, the Chinese in China are all rushing to learn English while over here.... well, I just said that already.

Anonymous said...

My bro was from a Chinese school. Well, what the hell, when he later went to SMK, the only extras he gained was being able to speak and write in Mandarin. FULLSTOP!!

Lucky for him he is Malay and parents are fluent in English.

Learning to read the Quran to Muslims are compulsory. In Arabic. We send our kids to attend classes after the normal National school hours. We have no problems eh??

Almost 2billion Muslims worldwide, a necessity that we learn to read the Quran. Thousands of ethnic groups dispersed worldwide, each having its own distinct cultures and practises. NOTHING LOST!!

So what is all these nonsense about loosing ones identity, mother tongue and culture if not sent to National schools?

Gosh and they demanded so and so to be ISAd!! And a mammoth rally? We are discussing about Nation building here, not CHINESE!!!

I LOVE MALAYSIA

jonathan said...

Dear bro,

Why LKS banned the chinese school in Singapore? Becoz LKS is a Baba decendent or Cina Peranakan. They dont speak chinese, they speak either malay or english.

Singapore also had history to jail the chinese extremist in 1960s. These extremist mostly the immigrant decendent. So their sentiment very high with motherland.

Anonymous said...

(heha) : siapa ke LKS ini !? a singaporean PM ke !? pls enlighten, rocky, ok !

Anonymous said...

(heha) : a van approaching :
" ...old...old newspaper, surat kapar, kaw pochee ...old tv, old bateri, old frig., old gate, old iron, ...old...old...!"
" hey ! oldman mau ke !?"
" ah ! ...tak mau !"
" old lady !?"
" ...lagi takmau lah ...lu manyak
jahat lah !"
" ...hahaha !!"

Fann said...

Do u know that learning language is not the matter of economic gain, future prospect, competition globally, but it is the matter of preserving our heritage. Learning Mandarin is not about tuition and elective subject, but it is about knowing our origin, history, tradition, values, culture and arts. It is not about reading and writing only, but something bigger. Who will appreciate our heritage if not Chinese ourselves? We will lose ourselves, our identity and roots if we ourselves do not appreciate our own language.

I am a graduate from vernacular schools. I do not c any contradiction between learning mother tongue and future prospect. I do not feel that i love the country lesser than others if I intend to preserve my heritage. I don't feel I am segregated from other races by attending vernacular school. By learning Mandarin, I can appreciate the beauty of what is left over few thousand years by my ancestors. I can preserve my identity and yet I am a Malaysian that is faithful to the country.

We c other Chinese in other countries who failed to preserve last bit of their heritage and were being assimilated into the majority. For example, do Chinese in Indonesia fare better than us? Are they treated as equal even though they are assimilated, losing their language, culture and heritage. Some even lost their Chinese names A big No! discrimination still exist. Have u forgotten how Chinese were culled like pigs few years back? Have u forgotten the crime done by those against the victims? Murdered, robbed, raped!!!! During that time, are they even considered as equal? Pls provide justification, especially for those who claim that vernacular school system is the obstacle to formation of Bangsa Malaysia? How would u explain the unfortunate events that befell those who have abandoned everything that identify them to be assimilated??

When the demonstration by DJZ be viewed with such hostility? How come then the demonstration by UMNO youths be viewed as an act of heroism and to be encouraged and appllauded? Do u still remember the demonstration of keris that will be bathed with Chinese's blood? Do u still remember the threats that is being thrown by UMNO towards us Chinese? Do u still remember the ruthless demonstration done by them against us? Why such double standard?
Malays are allowed to defend their rights by ruthless demonstration but not other races? Threats of recurrence of 513 incidents, ISA, murder threats, violence; I have seen too much of these.

mudbrain said...

As I read the comments by Malays, I am perplexed as to why this issue is seen as "questioning Malay rights". After all it is about discontinuing teaching in ENGLISH (English mind you NOT BM). I am so bewildered, I have been scratching my head; yesterday I had a full head of hair, today there is a bald spot.

Malays also want teaching to revert to Bahasa Malaysia in national schools. I think that (in order to be politically correct) Dong should actually form an alliance with Malay groups to push for the reversion.

That said, personally, I would like the teaching of these subjects in English to continue. Not being an expert, I would like the educationists to evaluate this issue objectively and ensure what's best for our children's education.

Rocky, I am surprised, why do you want to stir and encourage this into a racial issue?

Anonymous said...

Fann said...Learning Mandarin is not about tuition and elective subject, but it is about knowing our origin, history, tradition, values, culture and arts. It is not about reading and writing only, but something bigger. Who will appreciate our heritage if not Chinese ourselves?...

What I dont understand is why you dont make an effort to GO BACK THERE and be where you should REALLY BE and not just day dreaming from SOMEWHERE so near yet so far??

Would it not have SOLVED all your miseries? KAMPUNG HALAMAN ASAL?

Broken hearted.

Anonymous said...

I have already made my commitment in this land and I will continue to do so. At least I m better than those who claimed to be the tuan of this land and yet running mat rampit on the street, don't u think so? What is ur right then to question my eligibility to stay here? I do not c any contradiction of being a Malaysian and at the same time retaining my racial identity.
If u r so eager to ask other races to get out of the country, think back of ur situation and the narrowness of ur mind. Without the contributions of all races, u won't b sitting comfortably typing articles that incite racial hatred.

How is the assimilation of Muslims in Southern Thailand faring? Ended up with uprisings and needless terrorism that killed so many innocent peoples. Then u all make all the fuss regarding the negligence of their rights of practicing their values and cultures by Thailand government. What a hypocrite u r.
U deserve all the attention and yet u deny the basic rights of others. U make such a big fuss with there is slight questioning of ur rights and yet u hinder others to voice out when their rights are being violated. U call this the spirit of Bangsa Malaysia? No! U r just a selfish people who only care for urself.

Fann

pesananutksimonyet said...

Kepada orang macam WARRIOR 231, Belacak dan orang Melayu lain, jangan suka menyibuk hal orang lain lah. Isu ini jangan disensasikan oleh orang Melayu kerana tidak ada kena-mengena dengan kamu.

Misalnya, kita orang Cina tidak bersuara dan mengeluarkan pandangan berkenaannya fatwa2 terhadap “pengkid” dan yoga, sebab kita bukan Islam. Itu sebab kita hormati dan fahami hak orang lain. Mengapa korang suka cari pasal?

Anonymous said...

The malay fellas are fast becoming katak di bawah tempurung. Some of you fellas exhorted senselessly just like that moron who said ISA hak melayu - to tindas melayu? Maybe you fellas are so indoctrinated with ketuanan, you fellas are in the satanic illusion of a supreme race over the other races.
Islam is a religion of equivalence, all human beings are equal, believers or non believers. The Prophet had told his people to go to China to seek knowledge knowing that you have to learn mandarin there, so whats the harm of learning another language. You fellas have acceralated the process of bolehland to BODOHLAND! Upset KL

Anonymous said...

James Loh (Rocky sometimes I felt that you don't try to listen to the other side - I might be wrong)

I'm a Malaysian. I'm not going to judge a Malay, Chinese, Iban, Indian, etc organization on their demand. I'm not going to judge Malay issue on Ketuanan Melayu. Thought I disagree with the concept but I'll try to understand from their perspective. I'll also suggest different concept for the Malay. I'll let the them choose it. For instance, Anwar's suggestion on Ketuanan Rakyat. Is Ketuanan Melayu better or Ketuanan Rakyat?

As for Dong Jia Zong demand, we need to understand why is the organization demanding? Is it reasonable? Why? If you disagree then you should provide different path for them.

Lastly, I'm not a Malay but I'll listen to you similarly I pray that you'll listen to me too. Listening is the path towards unity and a better future for all Malaysians. We may disagree but we're all Malaysian.

Anonymous said...

Please walk in my shoe as I'll walk in your shoe. I'm not a Malay; thus, I can't deny that it takes time for me to understand your need. We must try to understand each other. Malay or non-Malay demands are not a problem as long as we try to listen first.

James Loh

Anonymous said...

Fcuk all vernacular schools. Close them all - Chinese, Indian and Malay schools. Have only ONE medium of instruction - English - and let different races have optional subjects in matters like literature or religious studies. BM is compulsory for all.

English has the highest economic value of all languages. The Japanese, the Hong Kongers, the Koreans - they all regret that they don't have a proper command of English from their schooldays.

Fcuk the vernacular schools.

Godfather

Anonymous said...

(heha) : 11.08 anon, r u the professor K ah !!?? ...@#$%^&*
@#$%^&*&^%$#@ ........!!

Anonymous said...

saya bukan belacan..

are u also suggesting that all religious schools like in sekolah agama also be abolished together with the chinese and tamil schools??

good idea..as long as the religion does not snake it's way back into the National schools..

keep religion out of schools and all will agree for a NS..
in france or anywhere else lah where got they teach agama in school,,,in church, mosque, kuil and temple lah..


fairman

Anonymous said...

The most precious gift we can leave for our children is education whether its English, Mandarin, Malay, Tamil, etc. If you want to study English, you do it here and surely you dont have to balik England, ada orang cakap tak pikir! So, stop this stop stupid and rubbish racist rhetorics.

Anonymous said...

fairman,

The current NS, are there any non Muslims forced to sit for Agama Islam papers or attend Agama Islam classes?

They attend Moral classes lor!!

The same when I attended the Convent school in the 60's. The Reverend Mother was head of school, teachers were all nuns except a Chinese clerk and an Agama Malay teacher.

We had specific periods allocated for Agama Islam lessons, even WAY BACK THEN lor.

You mai dari Sekolah Francis mana ni?

fairwoman

Anonymous said...

Let Chinese school have their own mathematics/science in their mother language.Only for racist chinese school.

Sekolah kebangsaan and Tamil school will continue use teaching mathematics/science in english.Then you can see the chinese will think twice if they want their children sent to chinese school.Even Dong Jiong leader will sent their children into English school.They and some political party are hipocrite.

Anonymous said...

fairwoman

i don't blame u lah if don't know what is going on in the primary schools..bcoz u attended convent in the 60s..now probably your grandchildren are attending primary school and your children should know (if u are married that is).

in the 60s did we have this racial tension and hatred agaist each other's race?? but why now??

plse walk into a NS primary school now and u will know why non-muslims despice it so much..

i truly sympatise with u lah when u compare the 60s and now....

and say that it was the christians then and it is the muslims now...


fairman

mut said...

>>>Mut,

FAHAM memang faham benar. Tapi yang tak faham sangat, kalau nak satukan komunikasi mengikut MOTHERLAND, apa salah pi saja balik kesana.<<<<

Baguslah, ko paham pasal banyak sangat kekeliruan (aku rasa buat-buat keliru - tapi dari segi logik kantoi) pasal dialek bahasa Cina nak sokong Mukhriz.

Apasal pulak nak balik ke Cina nak satukan komunikasi? Bila derang mintak penglibatan kerajaan Cina? Kan yang dibincangkan ni sekolah vernakular? Kan itu yang Mukhriz sentuh? Payah sangat ker nak paham?

Apa logiknya buat gitu? Kan Malaysia tanah tumpah darah mereka, kita? Ada derang menyalahi apa-apa peruntukan dalam Perlembagaan? Kalo ada, tolong bagitau artikel mana. Mungkin satu hari nanti bila Khir Toyo balik Jawa, Mahathir balik Kerala (boleh bawak Mukhriz dan Hasmah sekali, yer tak?) Sanusi Junid balik Aceh nanti derang ni balik la. Tapi aku musykil pasal dengarnya Mahathir beli ranch kat Argentina la pulak, bukan kat India. Ikut suke dia lah yer tak?

Yang DJZ tentang ni ahli politik UMNO nak menang undi murah dalam AGM UMNO untuk kerusi Pemuda. Lain kali nak undi banyak, bayar je kat perwakilan.

Tak payah memekikkan kebodohan sendiri dan memalitkan ahli-ahli UMNO lain. Banyak perwakilan ni tak berapa cerdik. Kalau nak difikirkan penyatuan dalam pendidikan, tentu idea ni dah lama dibincangkan DENGAN Menteri Pendidikan dan di"flesh" out secara betul - terutama tentang UiTM dan MRSM, biasiswa dan Matrikulasi/Tingkatan 6. Komen berbau politik musim AGM UMNO ni yang ditentang. Sebenarnya polarisasi tak berlaku antara sekolah vernakular dan kebangsaan semata2, tapi kalau dalam sekolah kebangsaan pun bila lepas SPM, Matrikulasi dan biasiswa dibahagikan, inilah masanya polarisasi berlaku - macam mana nak explain seorang budak India di sekolah anak sedara saya dapat sama-sama 10A tapi tak dapat tempat dalam matrikulasi? Takkan idea Mukhriz untuk mencapai "penyatuan menerusi pendidikan" ni nak tersekat kat jenis sekolah saja? Lepas tu macam mana? Hai tak dibincang pulak benda ni. Mesti mangsakan pendidikan Cina sahaja dalam polarisasi ni.

Bab parti politik berunsurkan kaum bapak dia kata masih perlu pulak. Sekolah vernakular pulak nak jadi mangsa anak dia? Ada logik ker? Atau logik yang dipakai separuh-separuh?

>>Kan lebih mudah, birds of the same flock gather together? SATU BAHASA, SATU BANGSA, SATU BUDAYA SATU NEGARA??<<

Kalau nak mudah maintain status quo jer. Nak undi, bayar duit, jangan buat macam tak biasa. Senang. ACA bukan nak buat apa pun. Ku Din berani nak tangkap ker? Gi makan roti la....

>>Angkut balik saja anak bini kat TANAH IBUNDA. Yang duk menyemak kat sini APASAL??

IBUNDA<<

Macam aku cakap la, la kalo tak paham konep tanah tumpah darah, si Khir kena balik Jawa, Sanusi balik Aceh (bawak sekali la bini import dia tu), Mahathir balik India (bawak sekali Mukhriz dengan Hasmah) boleh la kot. Kita tinggalkan Malaysia ni buat orang Asli. Jadikan Bahasa jakun ke Senoi Bahasa Kebangsaan? Eh takleh, ni dlam perlembagaan kata Bahasa Melayu jadi Bahasa Kebangsaan. Alamak, hak sekolah vernakular pun ada dalam tu yer? Sama-sama la maintain status quo.

Bob said...

DJZ organizes a "mammoth rally"?

seriously folks ... seriously ...

i would call Bersih's rally mammoth, now that's using the word in the proper sense.

try imagining 100 000 citizens of chinese descent, marching down KL echoing DJZ's demands, lol, don't make me laugh. When it comes to rioting, you got to give credit to the Chinese - they are the last one to do so.

I mean seriously man, how many Chinese you see in rallies, like, any rallies that have a degree of danger to the participants health?

tee hee hee. What a joke. DJZ organizes mammoth rally. tee hee hee.

Anonymous said...

(heha) : ok lah, if & IF the chinese communities REALLY want
m/s to be taught in chinese ie mandarin, ok lah ...let them have it & STOP all the nonsense lah, ok !

Anonymous said...

Fairman 12:01pm,

It is history that makes what we are now. We are not talking about the 60’s, the education is a lifelong learning process. Want to discuss with me about schools?? Besides Chinese school, have you, your siblings or your kids had the opportunity to learn elsewhere?

My grandfather was a mosque Imam. He gave voluntary religious lessons to the community. QURAN classes are conducted at home, FREE of charge.

My late father, HM of a large Malay School. However he sent 4 of us to English (catholic based) schools and 4 others to SJKC (Sin Min Sg Patani). He wanted to try all the system available then, and experimented on all his children.

My husband is an Estate Manager, so talk to me about Tamil schools? Estates are involved and committed, my husband was appointed(automatic being an estate manager)in the schools committee.

My eldest attended the Chinese Kindergarden. I actively contribute, helped give speeches in BM or BI, as the Principal was a Taiwanese who spoke only broken BM and BI. (She would sweetly plead me to help her!).

Due to his VERY sad BM/BI performance, I enrolled him Year1 in a private school, Sri Bestari (under Lang Education, English based). His English and BM improved in just 2years. When I moved out of Bandar Sri Damansara, I enrolled him in NS to complete his studies.

I noticed my eldest was very loose and weak in his Agama, I decided to send my second son to a Private Agama School (covering full UPSR subjects too). Year 3, pulled him, too many subjects to cover. Year 4 I enrolled him in NS.

Finally, my two youngest, I sent them to National Schools where I feel they received that is needed, BM/BI/Agama. I had been and am an active PIBG committee member of my kids present schools.

In 2002, I was appointed a PIBG committee member of the Pilot Project Tabika Kemas for 4years. A joint effort between the Japanese Ambassy/KPLB, to look into the potentials of introducing Japanese PreSchool education concept practiced in Japan. We worked tirelessly with the Japanese experts sent fulltime to help with its implementation.

During long holidays, I send my kids as guest students, in Primary Schools in the UK, to let them taste the type of education there too. My brother is an educationist in the nearby University so, he would do all the arrangements to give my kids those opportunity.

For the past 4years, as part of community service, and the love of children, I give free Phonics Reading classes to the children of the poor community here.

Yes, I was from a Convent school, REVEREND MOTHER ALLYSIOUS was my schoolhead, Sister John was my class teacher. They did not teach only teach us English!!.

Fairwoman/Mother

Anonymous said...

fairwoman/mother

impressive credentials but sad to say u still do not understand teh sesitivities involved with the NS and the non-malays.

the christians/convent ran the schools and they gave u the freedom to have agama classes..

are u giving the same freedom to christians/buddhist/hindus/sikhs to have their classes?

yes..they attend moral classes....buy why the malays do not moral classes is it? they can be immoral for all the government care...probably explains the number of incest cases among the community..

btw..it is embassy and not ambassy..u went to convent did u say?

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:23 PM

Typo errors occur so goes your “teh sensitivities” or should that be “the sensitivities?”.

Rocky,

I feel most non Muslim confuse themselves where Agama lessons and Moral lessons are concerned in NS schools. Maybe to them anything in ARABIC or JAWI, ISLAM when in actual fact is MORAL studies for Muslims in accordance to practices of ISLAM!!

Hai nanti pi Baitulmuqqadis, pengsan nanti. Thinking that all Arabs are Muslims!!

My Chinese neighbour went to BALI for the first time. She was shocked when she noticed some locals eating PORK in the same restaurant. Only when I explained to her, the Indonesians have Indonesian names, speak Bahasa Indonesia, some even wear colourful sarong kebayas to churches for their Sunday prayers. Some are Buddhist, Christians, and especially so in Bali, they have lots of Hindus.

Year 2008, and still naïve like this Anon 7:23???

There are 8Indians and 10Chinese kids in my son’s class. They are polite, respectful, cultured, very open-minded and very communicative.

And through them, we, their parents too became very close friends. THE PRODUCT OF NS!!

Fairwoman/Woman

Anonymous said...

Mahathir once made his buat-buluku-kembang speech about "..lets be global...(something similar to the effect)- to face foreign forces).

Perhaps, (Datuk) Mukhriz (TDM's proxy and beloved son)- envisions this policy based on his father's vision. Although I agree that we should force today's children to learn Maths and Science in English, but yet, its still inconsistent in certain respects;

1. Bla bla bla ... why not make English our mother-tongues instead? I realized after scrolling some comments there is a mention about Maths and Science is conceptual bla bla bla...thus needs a strong foundation in the language. Maths and Science has an inherent technical mode of language, which vocabulary acquisition is consistently needed level by level.

2. Pardon my ignorance, because I skipped cross-studying before writing. Just want to know, is Geography(science), Accounting(maths/science - ???), Economics(maths/science - ????), Sains Sukan/Pertanian(science duhh)still kept in BM?

3. Just by translating BM to English is not enough I suppose. We need to reformat the English/BM subject so much so that it should be branched out into 2 "sub-unit subjects (I don't have the jargons for this) - into Grammar/tatabahasa and Classic Literature/Sastera Klasik.

Imagine then children will have to learn 6 years studying the subject called Grammar/Tatabahasa and 6 years of classic Literature/Sastera Klasik (like comic/mangas, erotic poems, harry potters - seriously?) instead of just English, which is nonsense, and waste of taxpayers' Ringgits. This is the only way to force these kids into reading and writing !

Footnote: I hope that one day my children will have to write a long impressive proposal, thus entering into a contractual agreement with parents the next time they drag me into Toys r Us. During my time I just needed to display my puppy face to my dad.

3. If the policy is envision on the basis that English is currently the global commercial language, then shouldn't these think-tanks oversee that Mandarin is slowly making its way up to the Billboard charts? Today, the Mandarin slowly being reduced to PinYin script (roman script instead of traditional characters) for commercial purposes (transactions, IT, learning curve, etc).

Many globalists are taking up Mandarin courses so that they can make good deals and develop trusts among Chinese markets and labors.

Being that, lets have Mandarin electively for our Malay-ethnic, Chinese-ethnic, Indian-ethnic, and Lain-lain ethnic children.

4. The Chinese Abacus/Sempoa arithmetic method should be in our math syllabus. The Abacus calculator has proven to turn kids into a walking calculator (useful for Moms when taking these kids out grocery shopping).

5. Agama should be strictly Arabic and Jawi (but there is a danger employing Uztazes under gov't paycheck - instead import a volunteer, appointed by the Prophet of end of time through . Teach them that Islam is Here and Now not There-and-Yesterday. Historically Muslims were the best globalist (synergizing or linking heavenly mandate to worldly arbitraries), but today the sphere of concern and influence has been reduced to "make-believe" national borders. Pardon the irony.

Lastly, earlier posted comments mentions a REFERENDUM. Yes, a referendum - decisive enough for this situation.

NEP recipients should have at least one member of the family to serve in military. Young NEP candidates also must also have an extra National Service. That in itself it perfectly ok. All political parties will definitely agree on this.