Tuesday, February 08, 2011

Hotel Halal in Malaysia

Commission not halal. KL is about to get its first Syariah-compliant five-star hotel (pic) not too far away from the Tabung Haji headquarters, but find out the RM38 million answer to why blogger-journo Shamsul Yunus is angry H E R E.

28 comments:

Anonymous said...

It's things like this that the Malays have to wake up. No point blaming Lee Kuan Yew. No point blaming the Chinese or the Indians. There is only one colour of money, and it isn't based on race.

If you believe in Islam, then why do the things that are illegal and contrary to the teachings of the Prophet ? Isn't stealing from the rakyat a crime ? Isn't telling lies a crime ?

If you want to be religious, be religious on ALL fronts. Don't be religious by praying 5 times a day. Be religious when it comes to truth, fairness and probity.

Godfather

Anonymous said...

This is the standard UMNO modus operandi mah....

Lu tolong wah, wah tolong lu....

A Global Chinese

Anonymous said...

Rocky, itu urut service at this 5-star syariah hotel boleh dapat itu Halal sticker from Halal Development Corp aka SIL's company?

Anonymous said...

Dekat Tabung Haji mana ada abandoned hotel? Aku kerja Tabung Haji aku tahu bebenor ler.

Anonymous said...

Is history going to be repeated again in Tabung Haji?

Two Former Tabung Haji General Managers Jailed

TUESDAY, AUGUST 25, 2009, 19:18

Former Tabung Haji general managers Datuk Mohd Amin Sidek and Datuk Mohammad Shafie have been ordered to start their ten year jail sentence starting on Tuesday.

Datuk Mohamad Shafie (left) and Datuk Mohd Amin Sidek, former senior general managers in Tabung Haji. They were prosecuted for six counts of cheating and criminal breach of trust involving RM400 million.

Judicial Commissioner Zainal Azman Ab Aziz made the order after rejecting arguments and reasons for a stay of execution by defence counsel Mohd Firuz Jaffril and V. Rajadevan.

Mohd Amin and Mohammad Shafie were sentenced to ten years’ jail each for committing criminal breach of trust (CBT) and cheating involving RM200 million eight years ago.

The High Court yesterday allowed a temporary stay of execution for arguments in court on Tuesday.
Zainal Azman agreed with Deputy Public Prosecutor Dzulkifli Ahmad that there was no special situation to allow a stay of execution.

“I find that there is no special situation or factors which the court can consider like their health which need continuous medical treatment or service not available at hospitals.

“There is no special situation like that in the case of Kartika Dewi which was deferred due to Ramadan,” said Zainal Azman.

Earlier, Dzulkifli said the fact that it was the first offence for the accused was not an important factor which the court could consider.

He objected to the argument by defence counsel Firuz that the court should consider their ages, nearing 60 years, as a factor.

“There are a lot of 60 year-olds in jail for various cases. This is not a valid reason,” he said.
Dzulkifli said he sympathised with them for wanting to fast with family members but it was not a strong reason for a stay of execution.

Family members of Mohd Amin and Mohammad Shafie were later seen entering the temporary lockups in tears before they were sent to Kajang prison. — BERNAMA

Anonymous said...

Rocky,

The price tag is RM400mn, so the RM38mn commission to the executive of this islamic fund is VERY REASONABLE! So the main question is who is this lucky EXECUTIVE?

Anonymous said...

Simpati kepada pakcik dan makcik di kampung yang bertungkus lumus menabung duit di institusi islam ini demi melaksanakan rukun islam yang ke ? jika pegawai atasan terus melaburkan duit pendeposit demi mengaut komisyen haram dari orang kafir laknat. Semoga Allah segera memberi balasan setimpal kepada lanun-lanun itu, di dunia dan di akhirat. amin.

Anonymous said...

Ini hotel sulah kasi jual sama itu olang mau pegi haji punya. CEO sulah kata ok, SGM (Latok Sayed) pun sulah kauteam kaw-kaw, lu olang jangan kasik spoil ini deal.

No 1 Broker in KL

ex-ECM Libra said...

Is the CEO of this islamic fund was formerly the CEO of ECM Libra Securities?

Anonymous said...

how can you assume that the top management exec is making 38m? what if the property was bought by TH at way below market price hence any commission is not forthcoming? in the real estate business a broker will always earn some form of negotiated commission so why can't we just assume that's is a normal transaction involving agents? why must we always assume that the key executive acting on behalf of TH is making something for agreeing to buy this property? do you know that such investments are not decided by just one person? it's a multi tier deliberation by committees and 3rd party evaluations. if you are assuming that someone is making money for approving this then it should be all of them right? all 20-30 of them? is this even possible??

Please state your facts and confirmed findings rather than just assumptions. who are you talking about and who is related to who? if you can already insinuate such things then you should be able to state all facts - names, relationships, proof of transaction etc. If not then I suggest you don't defame people just like that. your act is not noble.

Bru99 said...

As Salam Dato

Will the hotel ask for marriage certificate from a suspicious couple??

Will the hotel stop people from bringing in to their room jambu jambu guys??

Anonymous said...

Investment Panel of the Islamic outfit will be meeting this Friday (11 Feb 2011) on management's proposal to acquire the 5-star hotel. Pray to God that the proposal will be rejected. Amin.

Chairman

Datuk Azixxn bin xxdxl xahman

Members

Dato’ Sri Axxxl Waxxx bin xxar
Tan Sri Sxxikh xhazali bin Abdul Rahman
Datin Paxxka xaxridah binti Ismail
Dato' Mohxxni bin xbdul xaxab
Encik Abdxl xaxxr bin Md xxxsim
Tuan xxex xlxxs Axxabshx

Anonymous said...

Halal Hotel?? Jakim Certified I suppose? So what do they serve at the bar? Then got Urut Batin di Halal Health Centre?

eddy said...

1. Hotel Halal macam mana ek? Makanan Halal, Minuman Halal sahja kah?

Is there such a thing as a halal Standard for Hotels in Malaysia.

Kalau ada couple tidak berkahwin menginap di hotel halal tapi buat kerja tak halal macam mana?

I don't believe there is such a thing as a halal hotel.

2. Mr. A Global Chinese, UMNO modus operandi? Betul kah?

Bukan sama macam peniaga Cina punya standard operation kah? Gua tolong Lu, Lu tolong Gua lah, sama-sama buat untung manyak woh! Tapi ha kita cakap sama olang kita manyak lugi woh.

Anonymous said...

Take the abandoned hotel... fix it as much as you can at minimum cost (no need luxury until mcm 5star hotel lah woi)... Jadikan Madrasah... bagi free education. i'm sure the fund will be better used then. no returns today, lots of returns hereafter. insyaAllah.

Anonymous said...

Eddy,

Your name is also tak halal because it is a Christian name and u are not.

Anonymous said...

The abandoned Hyatt is on the wrond side of the road. Plus next to the struggling Renaissance/New World Hotel.
Also how to ensure 100% halal? If people sneak in booze into the room or have illicit sex there, can consider still halal?
Whatever the case, Duta Yap will snap off the hand that offers to buy that abandoned project off him.

eddy said...

Alamak anon(4:02pm), is there such a thing as a halal name?

..don't think eddy is of christian origin though,sorry to dissapoint you;

from Dictionary.com:

ed·dy   
[ed-ee]

–noun
1.a current at variance with the main current in a stream of liquid or gas, especially one having a rotary or whirling motion.

2.a small whirlpool.

3.any similar current, as of air, dust, or fog.

4.a current or trend, as of opinion or events, running counter to the main current.

–verb (used with object), verb (used without object)
5.to move or whirl in eddies.

Origin:
1425–75; late Middle English; Old English ed- turning + ēa water; akin to Old Norse itha

—Related forms
un·ed·died, adjective
un·ed·dy·ing, adjective

Anonymous said...

Eddy

You conspicuously left out

Eddie or Eddy is a diminutive for Edward, Edmund, Edgar, or Edwin

But of course, there is also

"The Eddie" - the Quiksilver Big Wave Invitational in Memory of Eddie Aikau, a surfing tournament

Eddy (fluid dynamics), a concept in fluid dynamics

Eddy current, a phenomenon caused by a moving magnetic field intersecting a conductor or vice-versa

Eddie (film), a 1996 movie about basketball starring Whoopi Goldberg

Eddie (text editor), a text editor originally for BeOS and now ported to Linux and Mac OS X

Eddy covariance, a statistical method used in meteorology

Eddie, an American Cinema Editors award for best editing

Eddie (shipboard computer), in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

source : wikipedia

Macam macam ada.

Anonymous said...

When and if the deal falls out, somebody's going to snap that building at an even lower price. Business maaaaa....

Anonymous said...

All this while,the HOTEL around KL is not halal!!!!
This is business or what?
The malays wanted to be in business but what is happening?
Better change the name..thats my suggestion.

Anonymous said...

oh wow listen to the condescending tone of godfather.

Anonymous said...

Rocky,

There will be 2 "HOTEL HALAL" to be undertaken by this Islamic Fund, one in Kuala Terengganu and the other in Alor Star. There is no logical reasoning for the Islamic Conglomerate to venture into the obviously non-syariah hotel business except for the senior executives are too greedy making money for themselves. Please dig further and you will be surprised how corrupted they are.

Anonymous said...

Dear Rocky,

Last Friday (11 Feb 2011), the Investment Panel of this Islamic Fund, chaired by Datuk A@&z%n has decided to KIV the management's proposal of acquiring the 5-star Hotel. During the meeting, Mr Chairman said with a British-wannabe accent, "We will only invest in project with good fundamental". Obviously the Investment Panel is not impressed with the 5-star hotel in KL. Bravo! But, what about the other 2 hotels that the Islamic Fund will venture into, one in Alor Star, and the other one in Kuala Terengganu? Does that mean the hotel business in Alor Star and Kuala Terengganu is considered as GOOD FUNDAMENTAL by the Investment Panel? C'mon, where is the consistency here? Or is it because no one, including this blog, has never make noise before? I hope Datuk Rocky would be kind enough to dig further into this unknown hotel venture in Kedah and Terengganu.

Anonymous said...

Kenapa Tabung Haji terlibat dengan projek Hotel di Alor Setar yang melibatkan kerabat di raja Kedah? Adakah kerana anugerah "Datuk" yang di janjikan oleh pihak istana? Pengurus Besar Kanan di anugerahkan "Datuk", Ketua Eksekutif pula mendapat "Datuk Paduka" dan Menteri pula "Datuk Seri". Semoga anugerah "Datuk" akan menolong lahanat-lahanat ini di padang mahsyar nanti.

Anonymous said...

Pihak MACC perlu segera memantau aktiviti-aktiviti pelaburan Tabung Haji yang semakin meragukan terutamanya di sektor hartanah dan kewangan.

Anonymous said...

Rocky,

CEO + wife + Special Officer, Minister + Wife + Political Sec, Chairman + Wife, CFO, SGM of this Islamic Fund are currently in Europe. Purpose of overseas travelling is company visit.

The Islamic Fund invested in a company based in Zurich by the name of Pelikan. What is worrying why bring one batallion for the company visit? All expenses are paid by the Islamic Fund. Is there any need for the Minister, Chairman and their wives to be there in the first place? They've flew to Europe since last Wed and should be back in KL next wed. Not only they visited Zurich, but also ended up in Germany and now they are in PARIS!...WTF!

Obviously the CEO is doing PR job licking his bosses' arses 365 degrees. Oh, one more thing, why the CFO needs to be there as well? Is it bcos she needs to sign cheques for "miscellaneous" expenses aka "more shopping" for the VIPS' wives. No wonder every year they can't provide breakfast for jemaah haji under Muasasah. Too much MISCELLANEOUS expenses..!!

So next time if the Minister or Chairman make media announcement of higher price to perform hajj due to rising operating costs and what-not, please throw selipar jepun at his face! Those fuckers don't really care about the welfare of the jemaah, they are nothing but a discgrace to Muslims in Malaysia. Perhaps your good friend Syed Akbar Ali can start investigating about this sickening matter in Tabung Haji.

Concerned depositor

Anonymous said...

Sudah banyak cerita tidak menyenangkan tentang Tabung Tupperware kedengaran terutama mengenai isu pelaburan yang tidak munasabah (Ramunia, Silverbird, Lityan, dll), hotel yang akan di bina di Alor Setar dan Kuala Terengganu dan sebagainya.

Cerita pihak pengurusan yang begitu ghairah membelanjakan duit pendeposit dengan penginapan hotel 5 bintang dan tiket kelas pertama adalah amat mendukacitakan.

Bagaimana pula kepada nasib jemaah Muasasah yang masih tidak dibekalkan dengan sarapan pagi semasa menunaikan ibadah haji?

Kenapa pihak pengurusan lebih prihatin dengan keperluan Lembaga Pengarah dan Panel Pelaburan dengan memberi peruntukan tambahan "alaun penghargaan" RM50 ribu setahun setiap orang.

Bukankah tujuan asal penubuhan Tabung Tupperware adalah untuk membantu jemaah2 mengerjakan ibadah haji dan bukan untuk menjaga soal makan minum Lembaga Pengarah dan Panel Pelaburan dan Menteri dan keluarga2 mereka?

Bagaimana pula dengan anak syarikat Tabung Tupperware di Jeddah TH Real Estate yang mempunyai 5 pekerja (1 CEO, Pengurus Besar dan pegawai) sejak 2 tahun lepas yang tidak berfungsi sama sekali? Adakah kerana CEO Tabung Tupperware ingin membalas jasa baik kawan lama yang banyak membantu keluarga, maka pendeposit2 terpaksa membiayai kos pengurusan TH Real Estate?

Saya berdoa semoga falsafah melayu "sepandai pandai tupai melompat akan jatuh ke tanah juga" akan segera berlaku kepada pihak pengurusan Tabung Tupperware. Amin.