Thursday, November 20, 2008

Rafidah vs Shahrizat, confirmed

update 8pm: Exclusive with the Incumbent. Nuraina A. Samad, former political editor of NST, had lunch with Rafidah Aziz, it would seem from her posting Rafidah will defend her post.

20/11 Wanita Umno deputy chief Shahrizat Abdul Jalil has announced she will be contesting the chief post/STAR
Rafidah Aziz, the incumbent president, told some friends over lunch today that "if that's what Shahrizat wants, I'll see her in the ring in March."

You can see this in any which way but, in essence, Shahrizat has broken an August 4 pact between the two, endorsed by the movement, for a peaceful and smooth hand over in June 2009.

Nuraina had predicted that Sharizat would take on Rafidah, here. Sakmongkol's analysis here is spot on, too.

53 comments:

Hamba said...

BRO ROCKY,

THE WAY I SEE IT, INI SEMUA KERJA PAKLAH AND SIL LA NI, MANA TAKNYA..RAFIDAH WAS VERY LOUD AGAINST KJ, SO NAK MALUKAN RAFIDAH DEPA HASUT LA YANG LAIN2 TU. PEHHHH.....MEMANG DASYAT LA POLITIKING ANAK BERANAK NI...

YANG RAFIDAH PUN SATU, DAH CUKUP TIME BELAH JE LA, TAKYAH LA TUNGGU SITU SAMPAI ORANG NAK MALUKAN U BEGINI...ADUH, KITA KENANG JASA KAK PIDAH TAPI DAH LA KAK PIDAH..USAH GADUH LAGI BAGI JE JAWATAN TU SHAHRIZAT, ABIS CITE....

JANGAN TUNJUK SANGAT YANG AWAK TU GILA KUASA....PEACE

ChengHo said...

True to what the said in UMNO politic there is no permanent friend no permanent enemy the only permanent is permanent self interest .
Shahrizat should concentrate on how to win back Lembah Pantai and Wanita UMNO should concentrate on how to win the 6 millions new voters.
If Wanita want to inject new dynamism they should get ex Puteri's leader into Wanita.

Anonymous said...

No comments on this because it is not wise to argue with women.

They were born with a natural stupidity.

A GOOD MAN DOES NOTHING.

rashid said...

salam

saya tak pasti la pulak dengan cadangan Datuk tu.tapi apa yang saya lihat Shahrizat ambil pendekatan "do or die".lagipun sokongan yang diterima Shahrizat semakin lama semakin menebal.Rafidah pula sudah terlalu lama berada sebagai Ketua jadi mungkin Shahrizat berkata "what the heck!i just go for the top post!".

Shahrizat memang mengambil risiko.jika dia kalah maka Rafidah mungkin akan terus menjadi ketua dan Sharizat pula mungkin terpaksa ucap selamat tinggal untuk peluangnya menjadi ketua.

Anonymous said...

YAWN!!!!

torexxx said...

perhaps in her (Shahrizat) right now is "this is now or never for me so i shall take risk go all the way for the top post".

surely Shahrizat is taking her chances on this.but if we look recently we notice that Shahrizat is gaining more and more supports from the grassroots.hence that might be the turning point for Shahrizat to contest for the top post.

besides,Rafidah has been too long to where she is now and i think there's no harm done if there's a wind of change with (soon) the new leader incharged.

guwapo said...

YAWN!!!

DukeOfUMNO said...

I think Mama Ijat will win...she got the support from Pak Lah & KJ's side so far...and she also got support from many wanita's division which voted for Rafidah actually...

I think Rafidah should think over it...she should be realised the truth about the wanita's at all ground...and may be she'd been "institutionalised" by her current post...she chair that post for so long!...now she has to face something new, somebody new to compete for the chair she's sitting..Rafidah face culture shock, I guess...hehehhe...

Anonymous said...

bro,

tanya shahrizat berapa banyak dia tabur utk beli pencalonan???

tak sabar aku nak tengok, shahrizat kena sembelih dek rafidah!!

***rpk-sucks***

Anonymous said...

well, everything in umno is about greed. promises are made to be broken. when it comes to power and money, everything else is a lie.

shaking head

The Unladen Swallow said...

Mmmm, catfight.

wisesim said...

Time for a new leader! Must make way for new person. Present one already too fat! :)

Anonymous said...

aku memang setuju yang ijat akan kena belasah bukan sahaja dengan rafidah tetapi dengan wanita2 yang menuntut janji2 politik ijat tu.

memang dia jenis tabus duit punya orang orang...well kj and abdullah know best their "running mate" but one thing for sure shahrizat is ketua for only abdullah and "anak-beranak" but not for wanita umno.

by now, the real grassroots tunggu saja untuk pilih ketuanya dan yang utusan malaysia dok tunjuk2 wanita2 tu sebenarnya semua tu ialah penyokong shahrizat dari awal lagi...so its no surprise that dia akan lawan rafidah.

cuma dia kena ingatlah....siapa yang nothing to loose sebenarnya ?


sirius black

Anonymous said...

Shahrizat lawan Rafidah
Macam badak lawan gajah
Kalau ikut ukuran macam sama
Tapi otak nampaknya berbeza
Rafidah lagi bergeliga
Sudah terbukti merata dunia.

Shahrizat? Hmmmmm stail ada
Body pun boleh tahan juga
Tapi kalau otak
Aku bagi nombor dua
Ok, tapi tak geliga.

Siapa berani bertaruh?
Aku rasa Rafidah susah nak jatuh
Salah-salah Shahrizat yang runtuh
Kamilia strategi dia kelas
Dia tolak Shahrizat naik atas
Menanglah dia tanpa berlawan
Dengan Rafidah mungkin jadi pasangan.

Orangbatu

Anton said...

Ever wondered why Kak Su(Dah)can't let go yet? 3 months not enough time to sapu and cover up tracks ler!

Anonymous said...

Great, Rafidah must not chicken out like Pak Lah.
And make sure finish off Shahrizat.
Baru lah betul kak fidah, bagi kat si Izat tu akan lingkup cepat lah UMNO. Good Luck.

petestop said...

Really... who cares...

It does not makes my life easier or better.

Whoever becomes UMNO Wanita will just perpetuate the racial bigotry against me.

Anonymous said...

Bro Rocky,

It was spot on when i read that Sharizat would go for Rafidah on the 13th of November on this blog : http://selvarajasomiah.wordpress.com/2008/11/13/sabah-wanita-grassroots-want-rafidah-aziz-to-leave-by-march/

Anonymous said...

The following 5 should buy Lee Ah Chai a drink at C18.

11. Muhammad Husairy Othman - Merit increment (have proven to be a good leader in Ipoh bureau, ensuring at least 5 reports daily)

12. Hamidah Atan - Merit increment (have led Putrajaya admirably, by leadership and example)

13. Joniston Bangkuai - Merit increment (have made Sabah one of the strongest bureaus)

14. Sharanjit Singh - Merit increment (have led Penang well)

15. Ann Jenifer Gomez (125140) - Merit increment (joined 2007, proven to be a 'senior', dependable, takes on extra duties, always on the go)

Congrats to all of you

Anonymous said...

go go shahrizat

leave leave rafidah

rafidah, what is the different between mac or july? You have been head of wanita for my whole life. stop now!! - crazy lady

zamri sunway semenyih

Anonymous said...

These pacts and powers of presidents are outside their real powers. These are not powers given to presidents in democratic organisations, because it prevents new leaders from emerging and promotes inbreeding and defeats the very purpose of democratic organisations.

-Praxis

Zainal A. Kasim said...

Bro,

Keegoan yang sungguh sukar untuk diajar. Bukan Shahrizat yang mahukan semua ini. Yang jelasnya ini adaah kemahuan akar umbi wanita. Nak bawa jawatan tu sampai mati....

Anonymous said...

please get a few facts straight:
1. rafidah is waiting the 3 months to get ministership in najib's cabinet
2. sharizat was not consulted when rafidah announced her decision to do the june plan during "wanita bersama pemimpin"
3. the amount of effort put to make sure wanita umno does not split was what caused sharizat to shut her mouth and "angguk". do what she can to save wanita umno, also orang mencarut. dont do also, orang mencarut. try before say lah.
4. after exco meeting, all the grassroot women said to shahrizat that they will "memberontak" because they want the change, they dont want rafidah. half of the 117 that voted for rafidah were threatened by rafidah's 5 female thugs in exco to vote for dragon lady, or else.
5. the "transition plan" that shahrizat "angguk" to was taking into consideration was given the fact that
- pak lah transfer to najib in 2010
- umno gen elections NOT in march
6. now that those two points have changed, the june "transition plan" is null and void.
7. given all of the above, its only natural shahrizat stands for #1.

romerz said...

Arrogance! nothing but pure pure arrogance. 2 things comes to mind, one is arrogance and the other is unfinished business of the personal kind.

Either way, the country will suffer for the protracted politics at work here!

Mat Cendana said...

I don't care too much about Rafidah or Shahrizat. What I'd like to mention is Sakmongkol AK47| Dato' Ariff; who IMHO is more important than those two.

I'm glad that someone like him has taken to blogging - he's a very important addition to my understanding of "things Umno". Yes, we have other politicians who also blog. But IMHO Sakmongkol is a cut (at least) above them.

With these other "blogging Umno politicians", I'd often get the feeling "they're hiding something". But not with Sakmongkol; and that's why his posts are superior to the rest.

And there's another thing I'm amazed at - of how prolific he can be. It's not too difficult to write short posts that comment on news reports, but with Sakmongkol, HE is the primary source - and he could sometimes come up with THREE per day!

If only there are more people in Umno who are as intellectual as he is...

P/S To Ahirudin: Nice to have met you and Nuraina 3540 Jalan Sudin aka "Nuraina ANE" last Wed afternoon at Bangsar.

And I had also met Mat Salo of Borneo Blues PLUS Elviza of Write Away too! 19 Nov 2008 will be a day one previously anonymous blogger from the heartland will long remember. THANKS for providing the memory!

Anonymous said...

Go for it Shahrizat...

Rafidah, cukup2 lah tu...

-malaysianlover-

monsterball said...

But to majority Malaysians....they don't care two hoots who will win...as UMNO is no more important.
Malaysians are tired to keep reading UMNO this ad that... as if...without UMNO...Malaysia will die.
Just look at months after elections..how much work done....almost zero.
It's focusing good news o win votes...not one day..talk ....hope to get rid of poverty...once an for all.
How to unite the country with new Vision2020??
UMNO is sick..and living proof is seen here with Hamba talking cock...all the time.

Anonymous said...

Rocky
Bila orang mengatakan perancangan peralihan kuasa untuk Paklah dicepatkan, media seperti disuruh untuk menghentikannya tanpa mengambil pendapat akar umbi yg sememangnya inginkanya.

Tapi bila kena pada wanita UMNO, media begitu galak memainkan isu ini setelah apa yang dipersetujui. Secara merit tiada apa yang bagus tentang Sharizat. Dengan calon PKR(Nurul)yang baru pertamakali bertanding pun dia tak dapat kalahkan apatah lagi untuk mengetuai Wanita UMNO. UMNO bukannya parti untuk diketuai oleh orang yang kalah.Kalau begini gayanya memang ada orang yang ingin melihat Wanita UMNO lemah kelak.

Sharizat perlu tunjukkan dulu cara macammana ia boleh mengambil semula Lembah Pantai bukannya cara mengikut apa yang disuruh oleh orang tertentu yang ingin menjahanamkan wanita UMNO apabila diketuai oleh ketua yang tiada kerusi dalam Parlimen atau ADUN.Secara psikologi orang PKR akan mengatakan tiada hebatnya Wanita UMNO(Shahrizat).Kelak ketuanya,apatah lagi orang bawahanya boleh dikalahkan oleh mana-mana calon baru wanita dari PKR.

Mawar Berduri.

jonathan said...

Tunggu auntie fida nak buat pengumuman petang ni....Sure ade adengan menangis ni....

"Semua org dah lupa jasa saya..wuekk....wueekk...wueeekk..."

cucupakkasim said...

wow..!! semakin menarik..why don't we get comment from our hon.tun?

spycatcher03 said...

Kak Fidah, don't be naive. The tiurn-about by Shahrizat was blessed by out-going president! He have got axe to grind against you and TS Mahyuddin. Anak mamai yang penakut mengambil risiko pada masa2 lampau telah menjadi berani kerna ada super-backing!! Definitely, Umno will be broken into pieces, but who cares, he is going off!!!

Hamba said...

MonsterBall,

Everytime i read your statement, it feels like the 2nd flip flop reincarnated la, i dont know why but i have that feeling very strong....

Have you bought the AIRASIA ticket or should i recommend you for KERALA AIRWAYS aaa macha...u want aaa....i can booking for u daaa...

PLS DONT FORGET TO TAKE ALONG THE 'KUNYIT MAN' WITH YOU......AS BOTH YOU DESERVE EACH OTHER...

MUAHAHAHAHAHA.....SICKENING LA U GUYS....

caravanserai said...

Women wing
Now they want to contest
After months of saying flip flopping
Now the all out going for broke

The AP Queen for her last hurrah
The term she wants to hold before she goes
The Chihuahua barking out loud and clear
She has finally found her strength to contest

The contest line is set
The winner will stand in ovation
Amongst the women delegates
Cheering for the new leader
To lead the wing

The AP Queen has fought many battles
Nearing her end of her controversial reign
About AP and cronies
Now she knows her term is finally at end
Yet she wants to fight for another round
Before she finally bows out

The Chihuahua knows she has to go in
Too long playing second fiddle without much success
Maybe she gets bully yet she can’t do anything
Now she has found her voice
Time to spread her wings
Else walk into sunset forgetting about her dreams

The AP Queen and Chihuahua
Locked horns to fight their game
In the Women Wing to lead
Over the fence the calling can be heard
They know they have no choice
It is a game they couldn’t back out now

Anonymous said...

Bro,

Kalau saya di tempat Mak Idah pun saya marah, kenapa Mak Izat yang kalah pilihanraya boleh dilantik menjadi penasihat yang bertaraf Menteri. Kalau pun Mak Izat menang dalam pemilihan Wanita ni, tentu Pak Najib pun pening kepala nak lantik ke Mak Izat ni sebagai Menteri. Saya harap Kak Idah menang lagi dalam pemilihan Ketua Wanita. Dengar kata orang, Kak Idah nie cukup berani 'bang' meja bila Pak Lah nak lantik KJ jadi menteri Belia & Sukan.

Lawan Kak Idah... lawan...

Anonymous said...

For those who believe Shahrizat's claim that she wasn't consulted over the transition plan before August 4th, why don't you ask her properly.

She was at TSRA's house for several hours on Aug 1st discussing the transition plan and she agreed to it and they were going to announce it on the 4th at the event.

Irrespective of what people think abt how long TSRA has been there or people's perception of her, the fact is Shahrizat is, by her conduct showing to people that she cannot be trusted.. flip flop flip flop... Memang lawyer betul..

And yeah, you can see the grassroots supporting her. Of course lah.. these grass and roots were planted by her.

If she had an ounce of integrity, she would have said upfront that she wanted to bring the change to Wanita and not play along and fooling the WANITA and the people and continued strolling down this safe passage.

Think about it - if not for the transition plan, she (or even TSRA) may not have even gotten enough noms to make it to the race...

PlayedOutWanitaMember

meluat-giler said...

Reading some of the comment here makes me vomit. Those anwarist commenters will only satisfied if Razak and Najib be hang. These people dont care about the law and order anymore.

If it was Anwar, it will always be NOT GUILTY. And if it comes to Najib, it will always be guilty.

How about hanging those people who have 2 sets of double standard thinking?

Anonymous said...

In the word of Razak, "Blimey!!"

mat taib

razack said...

blimey!

Ah Beng Crosby said...

Kamilia was Rafidah's insurance in ousting Sharizat. She was planted for the VP post leaving Sharizat with no option. Smart move for Rafidah.

Anonymous said...

Got an old cock for a pm but does nothing for the nation.

So what could any old pussy do for the country...

Pordah!

Anonymous said...

shahrizat should prove her mettle first by defending her position against kamelia. if she win, only then she would deserve the no 1 post.

n2free

Sick&Tired said...

do people still care about this crap?

Hamba said...

GUYS,

AS U ALL CAN SEE HERE, THE ANWARIST aka PEMUJA BELAKANG......HANGPA CAKAP LA LAGU MANA PUN HATTA KALAU DEPA NAMPAK ANWAR DOK TIBAI PRETTY BOY DEPAN MATA SEKALI PUN DEPA TETAP AKAN SOKONG DIA GAK.....DEPA NI MENYOKONG DAH TAHAP GABAN DAH, TAK NAMPAK JAHAT DAH, SEMUA YANG KUNYIT MAN NI BUAT SEMUA DEPA KATA DIA BETUL, DIA SEORANG PEJUANG YANG SUCI KUNUNNYA.....PIIRRRAAAHHH PARPU..

KALAU BAB NAJIB WALAU DIA TAK BERSALAH DEPA TERUS JATUH HUKUM DAH....BERSALAH.....APA LA KORANG NI...

AKU NI BUKAN PENYOKONG NAJIB....TAPI MUST BE FAIR LA KAN?

PIKIR PIKIRKANLAH.....

Anonymous said...

To Anon 10:15,

Tahniah to all those promoted! What about Ah Chai? Can't he be made to take over Kamarul Idris' place and move Kamarul to take over S Nazri? S Nazri take over Hisham Aun. Hisham Aun can join Kali at any of his companies?

ex nst general desk

Anonymous said...

Ah Beng Crosby

That's not true. Rafidah does not trust Kamilia.. I know that for a fact. There was no consultation between the two on this point. She did it all on her own..

Wanita Kuala Kangsar

Anonymous said...

Sharizat will compliment and fit in well with Najib. See, same wavelengh same nada same perjuangan.

Rosmah was only a year senior to Sharizat in TKC, I think both were in the same dorm, blue house/rumah Tun Fatimah . Known each other since 1969 - 40years!.

Blue House

dima said...

rafidah kata rasional peralihan jun untuk mengelak pertandingan. bila ditanya kamilia nak tanding naib ketua, dia kata itu bukan masalah dia tapi masalah yang shahrizat kena selesai sendiri. otak jenis apa pemimpin ni???

Srikanth Siva said...

statement 1 & 4 contradict each other...did najib ever meet her or not?

Anonymous said...

who cares whether shahrizat want to contest?
who cares if rafidah is unhappy that shahrizat breaks her promise?
and who even give a hoot about the amount of grassroot support each of them get???

by the end of the day, what i gather is that the most important thing for them is getting a prime and cushy seat up in the party called _____(fil in the blank - pemuda/wanita/putra/pondan/pariah) UMNO!!!

FARHA

Anonymous said...

Breaking promise? No big deal and nothing new to UMNO. The parent itself started it when it was expedited from what was originally endorsed. This kind of behaviour is not only prevalent in the party but also in the govt they dominated. Look at Terengganu oil royalty issue. They just abrogated it at their whim & fancy (Mr Bridge Burning said it's just an MOU but even an MOU couldn't be cancelled at will if you care abt yr integrity). This is the culture created by UMNO & nobody can stop it frm spreading to the govt as long as UMNO dominates it. So to arrest the slide boot out that bad BOY aged 62 years.

frm: UMNO man (still)

Anonymous said...

though both have done nothing great for Malaysia. But fat mama has been there for too long...Time to go before you lose the fight.

aho

Anonymous said...

There were insinuations in the comments posted here that Shahrizat is not fully fit to lead Wanita UMNO just because "she even lost to a greenhorn in Lembah Pantai during the recent GE". I say that the defeat was not due entirely due to Shahrizat but to negative sentiments of voters, especially urban ones, towards the govt generally. Rafidah was luckier contesting in a rural constituency, even then marginally escaped defeat and retained it thru the courtesy of the court. She wud have lost heavier than Shahrizat in Lembah Pantai, what more with her excess baggage. At least Shahrizat was graceful enough to openly congratulate Nurul, a quality sorely missing in Rafidah. Just look at her conduct when she lost to Siti Zaharah Sulaiman. Stink to heaven.

Frm: Not sore loser

Al-Sadr said...

I think this problem must be one of UMNO weakness ( part of it's sickness too) .

As you see UMNO is a 60 years old party , but still doesn't pratice gender equality. The reason I'm saying this is since Rafidah has been in UMNO for ages since 1984 , why can't she contested for the UMNO VP or even the President position? Aren't she qualified for that post when her experience in the party is over 22 years ?
Why can't UMNO accept one of their own to be it's leader? Is there a rule in UMNO whereby states that only men can hold the President and VP post? If yes please ammended it before the party become irrelevent in times.