Saturday, September 05, 2009

Seksyen 23 residents prevail

updates:.4 am Monday: End of Civility by Marina Mahathir
4.30pm Sunday: Cow Head, A Killer Wave on the Loose, by Shamsul Yunus
3.45pm, Big Dog's post: "Selangor MB Flip Flop"

Original posting:
Temple relocation shelved. Not a good day for Khalid Ibrahim. The Menteri Besar's dialogue with the Section 23 residents this morning went awfully awry.
Lessons for the govt:
1. Unilateral decisions don't pay, especially with a weak government/leadership
2. Democracy is alive (especially after a demonstration)

The residents/protesters' "victory" should inspire more demonstrations in Selangor in future, I reckon. Or more consultations between the Sgor govt and residents, especially the Malay-Muslim residents, before any action that may affect them is taken.
Or both.

Agenda Daily has a graphic brief on the event. Watch their space here for the full report.

Kecoh…kecoh...kecoh

'MB bodoh’ dan 'Khalid Babi’ serta macam-macam kata kesat menyelubungi Dewan Bankuet Wisma Majlis Bandaraya Shah Alam pagi Sabtu dimana berlangsung sesi dialog Menteri Besar Selangor Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim dengan penduduk Seksyen 23 berhubung isu pembinaan kuil.Kira-kira 300 penduduk termasuk 40 kaum India hadir dailog itu.Kalangan yang berang dengan keputusan kerajaan negeri hendak bina kuil Hindu dekat kawasan perumahan mereka juga boo kearah Ahli Parlimen Shah Alam Khalid Samad dan ADUN Batu Tiga PKR Rodziah Ismail.Malah satu ketika seorang penduduk tunjuk tapak kasut kearah Khalid dan ramai yang menjerit ‘ penipu’ semasa Rodziah berucap.Dailog selama sejam itu berakhir tanpa apa-apa keputusan dibuat.Sebelum itu penduduk tidak endahkan jaminan Menteri Besar kata nak kaji balik keputusan.Suasana juga agak tegang bila wakil penduduk India tetap mahukan kuil di Sek 23.Ia jadi lebih hangat bila dia kata orang India boleh tahan dengan laungan azan lima kali sehari.Khalid dalam sidang media di kediaman rasminya tengahari tadi, berkata kerajaan negeri membekukan sementara cadangan pemindahan kuil ke Sek 23 sehingga alternatif lain bagi menyelesaikan isu terbabit.-

p.s. I read somewhere that Khir Toyo said the previous state government had earmarked two sites for the relocation of the temple before March 08.

189 comments:

Anonymous said...

Rocky,

You got to give them credit for being brave to face the hostile crowds. can we recall any of the UMNO leaders willing to face similar situation.

bat8

Rocky's Bru said...

bat8,

that's hardly a quality that makes a good government. i'll give them credit for that but i'm sure they knew that a refusal to face the residents will simply lead to uglier repercussions.

the other option would have to meet the residents before making a decision.

Hua Jern said...

Just shows mob rule has started in Malaysia. A bloody disgraceful 'performance'by the protestors.

Similarly disgraceful action by those who praise this mob.

Anonymous said...

Dear all,
Bravo to MB Khalid for making the right decision and temp shelved the temple relocation. If any other decision, I'm sure the racist & bigots protestors in the meeting will cause untoward incidents. From some the photos, it looks like some Indian residents begin to responds and wanted to fight the Malay protest residents group. Definitely it may cause May 13th incident in the town hall meeting, this time under Najib watch, the same case during his father's time. We should vote for BN next election, because MIC & UMNO is the best solution for Selangor. We need UMNO to control their racists and MIC to control their racists so they won't fight each other. Hidup BN!!! Hidup UMNO!!! Hidup MIC!!!

Salam,
1Malaysia

Inilah demokrasi... said...

The worst is yet to come.

With the moral support given by no less than the Home Minister himself who cares about the PR Selangor state government.

Pray hard Tan Sri Khalid. Allah akan bersama dengan orang yang benar.

Hampeh said...

Eh, beradeeer! Apa moncong-moncong muker niiih? Kan kata kita ni sebuah society yang open dan liberal? Demonstrasi dan reformasi tu kan gaya hidup kita?

Bukan keer Pakatan Rakyat kia pro-tunjuk perasaan? Tu kan hak asasi kita, right to march, right for dissent, right to tunjuk perasaaaaaaaan?

Protes sini dan protes sana, ya brrrro!

1Black Malaysia. Ombak Kuning. Pokok Demonstrasi. Hotel Demonstrasi. Anti-ISA. September 16.

Ehhh, macam-macam lagi tau!

Ini, protest 50 orang penduduk. Kicik punya hal. Apasal Khalid gelabah macam nak rak??!

Lepas ni kaum India kat Selangor, tolong ber-arak, OK?

Hampeh!

Anonymous said...

That's the thing when we have incompetence government or state exco's.

These excos have no knowledge of procedures plus dumb enough to leave a trail of corruption or abuse of power.

Selangor is the most advanced state and there is no place for those in power to find time for learning curve.

Those who voted suffers now.

Old Fart said...

that hostile group could do what they did because they knew if anything the police and the FRU will be on their side. So too the courts. Somehow you omit that. Also they same kind of democracy cannot be showered against the BN. and you have nothing to say about Hishammuddin.

Pune Deck said...

I see the resemblence between Samad Brothers ... both stubborn, twisted, and bad listerners.

Better find another area Khalid. You will get creamed next PRU13.

Rocky's Bru said...

Dear Old Fart,

Hisham came out with his on Thursday, didn't he? He said those responsible for the cow-head provocation will be charged in court (next week, I hear). SOme described it as flip-flop, but I'm glad he didn't accuse the MI or Mkini of taking his words out of context on Wednesday (reports that said he "defended" the protesters and "justified" their cow-head gesture).

As for Khalid Ibrahim, his decision would be construed as siding with the protesters. You can't blame people if they see it that way. I didnt want to say it in my posting, but it's clearly flip-flop, mate.

Anonymous said...

Hi Rocky,
We are living in a multi-racial society, and I do not believe with my own eyes that this is happening in Malaysia. Seksyen 23 has about 30% of non Malay but that doesn't mean a temple should not build there. Non Malay can tolerate the 5 times prayers via big speaker from the mosque and no complaints because we believe this is what we need to do living in a multi racial society. but what seksyen 23 residents did was a total disgrace, and not going well with 1Malaysia concept.

Furthermore, I heard the dialogue consist of more than half are NOT residents from seksyen 23 and the quarrel broke out when they were asked to leave. I hate to assume but I hope those not from seksyen 23 are not BN people...I hope, seriously. because what happen today can potential cause racial tension among the Malay and Indian....

Steven Seagal

bowl said...

there goes the BN planted s23 residents theory.. PR hypocrites..

Anonymous said...

Dear Anonymous (3.50pm)

Your statement...
"we should vote for BN next election, because MIC & UMNO is the best solution for Selangor. We need UMNO to control their racists and MIC to control their racists so they won't fight each other. Hidup BN!!! Hidup UMNO!!! Hidup MIC!!!"

My questions...

Then how are we suppose to live in a society that support to be integrated and tolerate each others belief when you have MIC to control Indian, UMNO to control Malay..? what we need is a multi racial party and not a race based party....don't you think? but this is what I believe all these while..Malaysian is not living in so 'harmony' as we think if we still going on with race base party...

Steven Seagal

Anonymous said...

Well done Tan Sri Khalid!

Anonymous said...

mamat ni hina penduduk shah alam

http://hamirdin.blogspot.com/2009/09/kepala-lembu.html

Anonymous said...

Old Fart said...

that hostile group could do what they did because they knew if anything the police and the FRU will be on their side. So too the courts. Somehow you omit that. Also they same kind of democracy cannot be showered against the BN. and you have nothing to say about Hishammuddin.

4:16 PM
Hoi Kentut Tua,

Dulu kamu kata semua rakyat Selangor ni sokong PR kan? Tu penduduk seksyen 23 tu kumpulan pertama yg memberontak.

Mereka kena tipu dapat MB, MP dan ADUN bodoh! Apa yang dia orang ni pandai hanya tuduh ini semua kerja UMNO jadi dalang. Tak reti nak selesaikan masalah langsung. Semua penduduk yg protes tu ahli UMNO ke? Bukan ke ada jugak ahli PR dalam tu? Inilah kerja MB, MP dan ADUN penipu!

Macam kamulah asyik tuduh UMNO BN blah...blah. Takda demokrasilah konon. Demokrasi PR kamu tu demokrasi taik kucing.

Oooo kamu kata mereka semua tu dapat sokongan dari polis dan FRU dan jugak mahkamah. Baguslah. Dan tahulah kamu yang polis FRU dan mahkamah pun dah fedup dengan PR kan?


Barulah kamu tahu ye, bukan senang nak jadi pemerintah. Apatah lagi oleh orang-orang tua PR macam kamu ni yang hanya pandai menipu dan kentut sana sini.

-tukang perati

eddy said...

Bro, setuju seratus peratus that the arrogant Pakatan Selangor Government should have taken the option to meet the residents before making such a sensitive decision.

Where is that PKR Exco Xavier Jayakumar anyway, I think any Government Committee to establish or relocate new places of worships for any Religion in Malaysia should NEVER be Chaired by a politician, they make decisions based on votes they could get, without any comprehension what trouble it would bring later. The Chairman for such a Committee should be a non politician, equivalent maybe to an ex judge or the serving State Secretary while the Committee members must be made of prominent citizens and representatives from the Local Council,Majlis Agama Islam, Hindu Sangam, Council of Churches and Buddists etc. and of course the Police. The operative word is NO POLITICIANS.

Anonymous said...

So, it is all right to call an MB or any person BABI during the fasting month, huh? Masya Allah! What has happened to my fellow Muslims during this holy month of Ramadhan? Astaghfirullah!

Aljajawi

chaples said...

dear rocky,

why are u not replying to hampeh's post?

dan untuk hampeh.tiada siapa yang mempertikaikan demonstrasi yang diadakan.malah demonstrasi itu amat digalakkan.tapi yang dipertikaikan disini kenapa perlu membawa kepala lembu.

inilah bezanya cara orang UMNO berfikir.bukan 50,60,5000,500000 yang dibisingkan.islam tidak menyuruh umatnya mencela agama lain.

CarlosBerg said...

Take Beer!Take Beer!

The protesters are sobber but the caretaker government is blurping and feeling tipsy,oopsy...thats what democracy is about...

The cowhead is a symbol of dumbness is taking decision,one step foward but two step backward...

long live demonstrations in our beloved democratic One Malaysia...

Anonymous said...

Silly to even think of building a KUIL in a Muslim majority area.

Let us be frank here. My staff's mum, a 56yr old Chinese Single Parents just got laid recently.

They used schoolchildren!! They knocked her car, and when she was about to step out, THEY BASHED HER FACE, all rushed into her car and drove her deep inside to a rubber estate.

There, they forced her for pin numbers, two guarded her while the other two went to the Banks. In the meanwhile, over the phone, already negotiating with the other end caller for the sale of HER car!

After 2hours, lucky a couple passed them by, and these thugs panicked, hands tied behind, she kicked her door and ran towards the passersby..

SERAM SERAM... GOD BLESS these Seky23 residents.

It is related... the KUIL will bring all kinds of similar unfortunate incidences that we here are having to face daily.. and by the color of their skins, language etc.. don't tell me they are Robin Hood from Nothingham!

PHOBIA, SERAM... Belum kena belum faham!

PERWIRA

Anonymous said...

Guys,
Look at the video youtube, they give Khalid "cow cow".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7XC-UqJrok

Look at the part @ 7:36, they even pull the chair off where Indian resident would sit causing him to fall down.

Sad day indeed, this kind of thing might spark May 13th as happen during Razak era.

Hidup BN!!! Hidup BN!!

regards,
1Malaysia

Anonymous said...

I think the residents, all 50 of them should move out of s23 and live in Putra Jaya where they will be so welcomed.

Cowherd

Anonymous said...

It shows that Malays/Muslims have to go to the street to protect our rights & dignity. Cannot depend on politicians to defend Malays/Muslims rights & dignity as politicians from both side (PR & BN) are busy courting Chinese & India voters for their votes.

Nowadays the voice of minority are more powerful than the voice of majority.

Tomyam

matdeboq said...

Salam Sejahtera Sdr.Rocky.

Selalu nya ...bende-bende macam ini, ungkapan yg.lazim 'standard'..mesti ada ayat itu. Ia itu "UMNO"..!!


UMNO letak 'Provocateur'-lah...proksi-lah dan sudah pasti lah ...'Orang2 UMNO' lah tu..!!


Tapi senario ini pula lain bezanya, mungkin ramai..majoritas nya adalah orang yang bukan dari kalangan pro-UMNO...!!


Cerita nya pun di terbalik..spin-kan..dan lain. Kononnya kalau Pemimpin UMNO...belum pasti dapat mengharungi situasi yg telah berlaku itu..!!


Walaupun macam-mana, ini baru Permulaan dan belum lagi sampai ke garisan penamat..!


Rocky's Bru pun dah mula respond kpd 'Posting 'yg ada kat sini. Dah tak 'maintain' elegant silence seperti dulu.


Teruskan Rocky's Bru...anda di landasan yang 'baik'..!!

kumar said...

I don't know how you can call it a flip-flop.

To face the rakyat (including the mobs) knowing full well that not only that you'll get verbally abused, but you may likely get zero support from mainstream media, the federal govt, the police force and even the courts in this matter, that is courage..

donplaypuks® said...

Yeah Bro

Tempe Imported Toyota had this brilliant $600,000 Master Plan to create a place for Temples and Churches in Industrial Lots that did not include Mosques.

But his bigoted approach and agenda is nothing new.

In pre-War Germany and Poland and in Gulag Russia they called them GHETTOS and CONCENTRATION CAMPS!

Elsewhere, in Bosnia it led to outrageous ethnic cleaning against Muslims and genocide in Africa!! Is this what we desire for M'sia?

Who is playing games, politicking and flashing the dangerous race and relgious cards desperately to the point of conflagration?

dpp
We are all o f 1 race, the Human Race

Anonymous said...

Don't spin anymore rocky.....

if this is the Malaysia you want ... ....... .... then you should continue to spin

Anonymous said...

PR mengajar orang BN lompat parti, Tapi orang dia sendiri lompat parti.

PR mengajar rakyat,untuk mendapat sesuatu,kita mesti buat demo!
Jadi kalau rakyat demo..jangan marah.

Kebenaran itu pahit!!!


belasah saja lah labuuuu!!!

AminGL said...

Rockybru

u are also flip-flop when you supported Pakatan Rakyat during Pak Lah's reign. Only now, you support UMNO after crossed over to Darkside.

Anonymous said...

Bravo to Khalid for making a wise decision.
It shows a responsible MB in action.
What else was there for him to do in light of unruly behaviour around him.

Actually this story has gone all over the world.
Countries all over are reading about it in the net especially.
This shameful cow head incident has gone worldwide taking with it our much soldover "Malaysia Truly Asia" label.
Lets hope peace and good reasoning prevails to ensure nothing untoward happens further.
We have a vision to achieve by 2020.

Jebat Mulia

Kopek Ku Besar Lu Mau Ka? said...

Fulamak Rocky, berita gempak, berita tergEmPaR! Orang protes kepala lembu tak ditangkap polis tapi orang yang protes pasal orang yg protes pasal kepala lembu, kena tangkap pulak!

Camana ni Rocky?

Berani tak tulis pasal ni?

Baca kat sini.

Anonymous said...

Salam semua,
Tertarik juga baca perkembangan terbaru ini.
1. Kenapa kaum Tionghua tak hadir dalam dialog? Pada orang Tionghua keutamaan adalah kepada Pendidikan; jadi sebarang usaha untuk memajukan pendidikan akan diberi keutamaan. Berkenaan agama; kami lebih percaya kepada keharmonian dan sedaya upaya mengelakkan sengketa. Lihat saja dalam sejarah negara berapa kali kaum Tionghua bising bila rumah berhala haram mereka dipindah atau dirobohkan.
2. Dalam sistem demokrasi, yang majoriti adalah menang. Jadi kalau dah sehingga begitu ramai membantah kenapa usaha pemindahan kuil itu tidak ditangguhkan dahulu pada mulanya? Bukankah lebih mudah dan wajar. Sekarang dah ke tahap ini; bak kata orang kalau berbaik semula pun dah berparut. Bukan apa, adalah lebih baik berpindah ke satu tempat yang tidak ada sengketa - hati senang; fikiran pun lapang. Minta maaf dalam bab agama saya tak arif tapi perlulah ada sifat toleransi. Kalau dah ada tapak baru disediakan, ambil sajalah. Bukankah lebih Berkat kalau amal ibadat dilakukan dengan suasana aman damai.
3. Isu kepala lembu. Saya sejak kecil bergaul dengan orang Melayu. Setahu saya dalam apa-apa keraian atau kenduri kebanyakkan hidangan menggunakan daging lembu. Kalau di Negeri Sembilan dan Melaka mungkin mereka lebih gemarkan daging kerbau. Kambing pulak jarang sekali takut kolesterol tinggi. Anggap sajalah secara kebetulan ada upacara kenduri dan mereka ramai-ramai secara spontan terus bawa kepala lembu. Kita perlu beranggapan baik pada niat seseorang, cubalah kita dari sudut di atas besar juga kemungkinannya. Kalau kami, mungkin yang diusung pula kepala Ba alif Ba Ya ( kerbau pendek). Pada saya kepala lembu yang dibawa tu adalah secara kebetulan; janganlah sampai bersengketa. Kalau bawa kepala ayam tak nampak pulak kan. Sori gurau.
4. Budaya berdemo janganlah digalakkan di negara kita. Ibarat merokok di stesyen minyak. Nasib tak baik meletup mungkin bukan kali pertama dah meletup tapi jangan merokok kan bagus. Pakatan Rakyat perlu ingat bahawa mereka pada hari ini adalah kerajaan. Bayangkan kalau sistem kepolisian; kehakiman; pendakwaan; perubatan dan badan kerajaan lain dituduh seburuk-buruk begitu sewenang-wenangnya, apa akan jadi sekiranya di masa hadapan mereka memerintah Malaysia. Adakah semua anggota dan kakitangan badan-badan tersebut akan dibuang dan diganti?

Pada pandangan peribadi saya mudah iaitu kita perlulah tahu bersyukur dan berpuashati barulah mendapat kebahagiaan yang berterusan. Binalah rumah ibadat di tempat yang aman damai. Lebih berkat sembahyang kita.

Apek Kampung....

shima said...

@ Rocky,

What flip flop, the Malays are highly sensitive people and easyly provoke...and the Pakatan gov does not get support they needed from the polis, from Sultan, from the Federal gov...so it was not an easy decision...the UMNO rejim can play politic...and influnce the Sultan...so please...don't blame Tan Sri...wait till we took the Federal then lets talk...power is everything...the residents will keep quite when the polis is on our side...don't you know that!

Anonymous said...

buatla kuil kat kawasan india..

hidung aje besar, otak lembam.

buat kuil kat kawasan melayu apa pasal?

orang melayu nak solat kat kuil?

ini bukan soal Pas/PKR/Umno.. soalnya bodoh merancang..ada aja pokok besar nak buat kuil.

ingat tanah ni bapak dia punya.

-Kuil? Untuk Melayu-

Ti Lian Ker said...

it s indeed sad that msians had come to this low..

Anonymous said...

Yes Rocky you are right
Yes Rocky Seksyen 23 Residents prevailed
Yes Rocky TS Khalid Samad was humiliated
Yes Rocky the brave UMNO members succeeded in gertak a State Government
Yes the Opposition loves demonstration and this peaceful demonstration by UMNO must be supported by all including the Prime Minister himself

But UMNO will still lose. You yourself know that.

Yes, you know that.

terasarindu said...

A new society of Malays, born to different from the usual Malays. May be this society has emerged everywhere in this country.

Radical voices from other ethnic groups became laudable, through all forms of media, and the internet and now the Malay in their own way.

Perhaps, we Malaysian must listen to all especially younger generation Malays.

Thanks, rocky, that's my view.

paloibinmulau said...

congrats to melayu there. you are melayu. amno should give their support to this melayu. utusan and malay mail should give some space to this melayu to curse somemore hehehehe

hidup melayuamno

BrightEyes said...

Roc, Hisham first defended those cow-head protesters, then immediately did a volte-face the very next day, by saying they should be booked. Clear case of a flip-flop in action. Try as you can with your media powers, you obviously can't hide that.

And so much for 1Malaysia. Bunch of brainless boars can't even allow their neighbors the right to practice their faith. Especially ironic is one of those protesters was wearing a 1Malaysia hat at one point.

How much money is Najib paying that foreign advertising firm to promote 1Malaysia again?

Sinatra_Z said...

I sure hope stern action is taken by the police to the cow head protesters.

As much as I am apalled at the state governments competency, I sure am against the idiotic and stupid actions of some of the protesters.

kakakkaka said...

bro rocky, would like to obtain your view on this. 16 nabbed at candlelight vigils, but since Day 1 of the cowhead protest we have been hearing this ->“Police have identified the individuals involved.”. But until now, no recording of statements has even been done yet. what say you?

Anonymous said...

Hi

I think there is some amount of double standards and it will translate into BN losing many sympathy votes in the coming by-election in Bagan Pinang. The original protestors dont get arrested, but those holding candlenight vigils are arrested. Similarly in the Penang case, the reporter gets arrested, but the protestors only got a UMNO reprimand. Why don't arrest the protestors for a night, and then only talk to them? How come only the messengers get free food in jail?

Be-fair-to-all

Greenbottle said...

i think it goes to show that the PR govt and both khalids showed exemplary leadership in this.

the fact that even with those retarded umno dogs showing disrespect barking abuse they were still willing to listen to the arguments from both sides speak volume about their fairness.

not in a million years leaders in umno will tolerate these uncivilized barking from these kind of shameful dogs to the menteri besar and elected officials...


of course the motherfuckers in umno will gloat that they have 'won'...but the cirsucs isn't over my friends!...

dunia dah nak kiamat...orang umno yang nak bela islam berperangai macam anjing...

Anonymous said...

bro rocky
saya tak tau kenapa saya masih masuk blog sedara(mungkin ingin tahu apa yg kamu nak spin)

tapi sebagai seorg islam taubatla,belum tentu kita akan hidup esok.kasihanila diri

Anonymous said...

hahaha, soh cHAI rocky says "future make sure got more protest and demo"?

Can, let's do it in KL not just Selangor.

What a jerk this guy is.

Some ppl are just HOPELESS!!



ahgroo

Anonymous said...

Hahaha, rocky trying to save Home-made Minister looks good by polishing his arse saying he did after all ask the protesters to be charged. Yea, right after he realised what a jerk he is for not doing his job. Maybe he went home and seek the real HOME MINISTER on what to do.

Fly wau la!


ahgroo

Anonymous said...

Surah al-An'am ayat 108 yang berbunyi: Janganlah kamu cerca benda-benda yang mereka sembah yang lain daripada Allah kerana mereka kelak akan mencerca Allah secara melampaui batas dengan ketiadaan pengetahuan. Demikianlah Kami memperelokkan pada pandangan tiap-tiap umat akan amal perbuatan mereka. Kemudian pada Tuhan merekalah tempat kembali mereka.

Terimakasih Dato Najib dengan petikan ayat seperti tersebut diatas, Terlebih dahulu kami memohon syukur alhmadullillah kepada Allah S.W.T yang maha pemurah lagi amat menyanyangi, limpah kurnia dan juga keredhaan nya.

Surah Al Maaidah ayat 8 yang bermaksud;
“Bertindak adil! Ianya lebih rapat dengan keTaqwaan.”
“dan jangan oleh kerana kebencian kamu terhadap sesuatu kaum menyebabkan kamu tidak berlaku adil…”

Terimakasih YB Khalid Samad dengan petikan ayat seperti tersebut diatas, kami juga ingin memohon syukur alhmadullillah kepada Allah S.W.T yang maha pemurah lagi amat menyanyangi.limpah kurnia dan juga keredhaan nya.

Ayat di atas yang di sebut oleh kedua-dua pemimpin jelas memberi kefahaman bahawa penting nya kita ber toleransi dengan kaum bukan islam .

Petikan ayat yang digunakan oleh YB Khalid amat menarik , Sebagai contoh jika jiran anda di tingkat bawah , bersebelahan dan diatas yang berketurunan India dan Cina.

Apakah permasalahan yang di hadapi oleh penduduk Islam di rumah Flat dan juga apartment?

YB Khalid, bagaimana perasaan anda jika ;
a.Jiran keturunan India anda, membakar Kemenyan dan membunyikan loceng yang amat kuat pada waktu subuh dan juga pada waktu senja?
b.Jiran keturunan Cina anda, menyalakan Colok nya pada sepanjang masa?

Kesan yang dihadapi secara saikologi nya adalah rumah anda berasap dan berbau kemenyan dan colok sepanjang hari, minggu, bulan dan sepanjang tahun.

Pakaian, langsir, peralatan dapur dan segala-gala nya berbau kemenyan dan colok dan tahukan YB bahawa kami boleh membezakan yang mana satu bau colok dan yang mana satu bau kemenyan yang terbit dari rumah jiran ini!

Bagaimana pula jika mempunyai penyakit asma?

Adakah YB tidak terfikir bahawa kami telah bertolak ansur dengan kaum lain sepanjang hari, minggu, bulan dan sepanjang tahun.

Bagaimana pula dengan permasalahan yang di hadapi oleh penduduk Islam rumah teres?

Bagaimana pula dengan pembakaran colok sebesar batang pokok kelapa dan kemenyan seperti asap keretapi dibakar di tokong dan kuil yang terhasil boleh mendatangkan pencemaran alam dan kejadian pembakaran terbuka.

Kesan nya YB Khalid; bunyi loceng dan bau asap yang dihasilkan dengan tidak tahu asal asul nya boleh menimbulkan perasaan syak wasangka, kurang selesa, ksihatan terganggu dan tiada ketenangan untuk berehat di rumah sendiri.

Seperti yang telah kita semua ketahui, YB Khalid dan juga ahli-ahli parti PAS yang lain bakal memasuki syurga nanti mungkin boleh memberi bantuan dan nasihat bagaimana untuk menangani permasaalahan kaum Cina dan india pula yang mengadu berhubung dengan laungan Azan yang berkumandang dari Masjid dan Surau?

Kita juga cukup sedar bagaimana media yang di terajui oleh kaum Cina dan India termasuk lah The Star yang memainkan isu seperti ini dan juga isu-isu yang lain.

Walaupun berlainan bangsa, Lihat lah hasilnya apabila mereka bersatu padu dan bersepakat.

Ambil satu contoh media yang di terajui oleh Brendan Pariah dan KaliMuthu@Bentong Kali seperti petikan dibawah ini :
`When suggested that Malays in other parts of Selangor and Kuala Lumpur have no problems with Hindu temples being built near their houses, even when these areas are predominantly Malays, Roshan rebutted gushingly’
Syed Jaymal Zahiid is a reporter with The Malaysian Insider


ularlagibaik@daptonto999years.com

Anonymous said...

Rocky

So you rekcon the minority who created the ruckus were actually displaying 'true Malay/Muslim' culture by hurling insults at fellow Muslims (MB Selangor and the Shah Alam MP).

You conveniently forgot that it does not take very long for UMNO leaders to be similarly 'cursed and sweared at'.

First they allow 'outsiders' to bring a dumb cow's head for an illegal protest march.

Then they do not allow a decent dialogue to happen...and watched by non-Muslims who now get a better pictue of how such minority can also behave - even during bulan puasa!

What democracy is this that you are condoning?

And you have, in a very subtle manner, 'encouraged' such behaviour by saying - there will be more demonstrations in future!

Well, demonstrations need not be just by such 'minority racists' but can even be by the majority who can lose patience over such 'racist' behaviour of these 'intelligent' ones who cannot even participate meaningfully in a dialogue.

I would like to see you organise a dialogue with these 'racists' and ask BN leaders lik Samy Vellu, Kho Tsu Khoon and Ong Tee Kiat to have a discourse on this very subject.

You try to moderate and lets see if the non-Mulsim leaders can engage these 'racists' meaningfully.

It is also shocking to hear claims that 'smell and sound' from the temple will disturb/affect the residents!

You believe this crap?

And traffic jams, 300 meters away from the residential area ..... hah, these buggers want to come out with such nonsense...and you do not see the real agenda?

You touched on Khir Toyo's novel plan for relocation of places of worship.

I suppose you agree that non-Muslim places of worship must be located in industrial sites only in Selangor?

The ruler of Selangor endorsed such suggestion?

And what about the Muslims who are working and earling a living in the factories located in the industrial sites?

They are deaf, dumb and blind - so much so they are not 'konon-nya' affected by the activities of the temples, churches and other non-Muslim places of worship?

What are you 'instigating' and 'endorsing' bro?

PARAMESWARA

Loken PaL-aNi-SaM-y said...

Rocky - It is a good Flip-Flop by the MB. Hope u lessons for the govt apply to BN as well.

The victory as u call it should not inspire more co-head type demos; I hope.

I believe u did not imply such types.

aiyomanaboleh said...

There is religious persecution in Malaysia.

Anonymous said...

the protesters made two ways discussion almost impossible. they were merely expressing their emotion with loud noises. this not only spare no room for the state gov to eplain or apologize but also prevent other residents from expressing their thoughts.
kwang

Anonymous said...

Dear frens,
Recently extended Musa Hassan is doing very good job, some speculated he got the offer due to the C4 case.

http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/26495/84/

Recently seditious demo by Hindraf get arrested.

http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/112223

Bravo Musa Hassan, Bravo Najib & 1Malaysia....

regards,
1Malaysia

Srikanth Siva said...

tell me you have nothing to say about the antics of the people in the video? yet comment on the state government being flip flop?

Anonymous said...

Sebelum En. Khalid berjumpa dengan penduduk, persepsi awal dalam fikiran dia mungkin "ah.. ini mainan UMNO saja, kita tengok penduduk cakap apa, bagi malu itu UMNO." Bila dah jumpa muka baru terkejut, itulah buat keputusan tak tengok orang, dia ingat dah jadi Menteri boleh main sain dokumen saja orang lepas tu diam. Kalau dia perjumpaan sebelum ambil keputusan apa salahnya?

Komen penyokong PR lagi best, yang datang tu orang UMNO, haha... tak tahu ke lima orang ahli amal PAS kena halau dari situ oleh penduduk.

-Koko

Anonymous said...

enough talking to all taik cicak expecially xvier and loonie ang ang ang who? Gangster who?ahaks! We know that you all the pakatan jahanam like to see malay keep on fighting each others and create a hatred among muslim,chinese and hindu ha?. Bagi betis nak peha in selangor, perak & penang ha? Yeah yeah yeah, keep on set the fire...kalau boleh cepat sikit...wa dah tak sabau...sec.23 no doubt we'll give our full support and fight until the last breath. Yo 2 kalids and roziah watchout for your worst nightmare. Allahuakhbar!!! - D'zul melaka///

Anonymous said...

the pakatan rakyat is tasting their own medicine. democracy! reformasi! heh heh.

Anonymous said...

Paan muka orang Selangor. SAPA SURUH UNDI PAS!

PAS PLASTIC.

Anonymous said...

Hua Jern.. oh so if Hindraf did the riot at Jalan AMpang..causing traffic jam and making noise like pariah, u say its democracy. If these people who are shouting their rights at their own place..you say its mobs.

Tembelang sudah pecah.

Obviously these chauvinist reformasi,democratic supporters are using democracy to masked their own hidden agenda!

Disgusting!

exconomist said...

It's funny when you say democracy is alive, when all the protesters did was shouting and insulted the proceedings. The MB never had a chance against this raucous mob.

It was the loudest who won. Were they the majority? We will never know.

Nevertheless, you seem to completely ignore the analysis of Khir Toyo's solution to this problem. A temple enclave?? I laughed at the first instance when I heard his solution. Would you support the building of 6 suraus/mosque next to each other in an industrial area? Let me know, ok.

On another note, it seems that you selalu bising when Malaysian Insider publish something which is not to your liking. By connecting the dots, you always link whatever written there to Fox Communications, who's in your own words, "has a RM1,000-a-day contract to service the Polis Di Raja Malaysia".

From the past few writings of yours, I would say that you are the one who's actually on the books of Home Ministry/PDRM. Your one-sided view is putting Hishamuddin/Home Ministry/PDRM in a good light.

I would suggest you to bid for the PR job, because from what I see, you are doing a better job than Fox!

exconomist said...

It's funny when you say democracy is alive, when all the protesters did was shouting and insulted the proceedings. The MB never had a chance against this raucous mob.

It was the loudest who won. Were they the majority? We will never know.

Nevertheless, you seem to completely ignore the analysis of Khir Toyo's solution to this problem. A temple enclave?? I laughed at the first instance when I heard his solution. Would you support the building of 6 suraus/mosque next to each other in an industrial area? Let me know, ok.

On another note, it seems that you selalu bising when Malaysian Insider publish something which is not to your liking. By connecting the dots, you always link whatever written there to Fox Communications, who's in your own words, "has a RM1,000-a-day contract to service the Polis Di Raja Malaysia".

From the past few writings of yours, I would say that you are the one who's actually on the books of Home Ministry/PDRM. Your one-sided view is putting Hishamuddin/Home Ministry/PDRM in a good light.

I would suggest you to bid for the PR job, because from what I see, you are doing a better job than Fox!

Anonymous said...

Rocky,

Protest made by S 23 residents are not the first of its kind, as a matter of fact, there are many more worst case scenario happened before that.

We don't have to be hypocrite as such we only viewed demonstration as the forces of evil in any society. Don't be too quick to judge peoples who are not sailing in the same boat with you.

Sometimes, when negotiations have reached a dead end (such as the nutmeg village's issue), peoples tend to jump their gun and do the unthinkable. That must be avoided at all costs.

So, demonstrations, at times, no matter how we hate it but to them (desperate lot) most probably it is just a kind of necessary evils.

By the way, compared to a state of anarchy, demonstration is definitely the lesser evil!

Antihipokrit

Anonymous said...

"So, it is all right to call an MB or any person BABI during the fasting month, huh? Masya Allah! What has happened to my fellow Muslims during this holy month of Ramadhan? Astaghfirullah!"

Aljajawi

Are you Pas or PKR, eh? PKR definitely don't use that word (babi).

If not mistaken, only pas clans are allowed (based on guru's fatwa) to utter that kind of expletive! Bravo!

Pro PKR

resident.wangsamaju said...

This is a human rights issue, less of a religion issue.

Anonymous said...

I want to be a spin doctor when I grow up. And I look to the likes of Rocky to teach me the works. I look up to him and regard him as a mentor, if only he will have me as a protege.

So all of you who cannot stand his spinning. just don't visit. ok? I have got lessons to learn and I need the material provided by Rocky.

And when I am all grown up and have learned all i could , I would want to be like Unspun in Jakarta.

BigWheelsSpinning

Anonymous said...

"what we need is a multi racial party and not a race based party....don't you think? but this is what I believe all these while..Malaysian is not living in so 'harmony' as we think if we still going on with race base party..."

Steven Seagal

------------------------------------------

Yes spot on, gal. This is the perfect time for you guys to walk away from Islamic Party and the clone of PAP (read: Dap) and joint PKR in unison! Uh-huh.

Pro PKR

Anonymous said...

Chaplek says,

"tiada siapa yang mempertikaikan demonstrasi yang diadakan.malah demonstrasi itu amat digalakkan.tapi yang dipertikaikan disini kenapa perlu membawa kepala lembu."

6:17 PM

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Adakah salah dari segi undang-undang bawa kepala lembu? Bukankah AMKayu juga pernah arak kepala lembu?

Lagi pun mana ada kain rentang yang mengecam mana-mana agama?

Begitu juga perkataan yang di hamburkan oleh penunjuk perasaan, adakah kedengaran yang mereka itu memburuk-burukkan mana-mana agama?

Kenapa sensitif tak tentu pasal? Cerminlah diri tu terlebih dulu sebelum menjadi juru cakap kepada orang lain. OK bro.

Pemerhati

-Take Beer - said...

Bila nak mabuk free datang lah ke blog Rocky..

Dia spin secara Free....

eddy said...

It seems that the acute denial disorder suffered by DAP,PAS and PKR Aduns in Perak have infected the Pakatan groupies who still insisted that the demonstration with the cow head at Shah Alam is UMNO's doing while the hard truth is that it is organised and supported by PKR and PAS leaders not happy with the Pakatan State Government decision to locate the temple at Section 23.

The meeting at the Dewan Banquet is a Pakatan Leader vs Pakatan Supporter affair, after all the Shah Alam Residents voted in a PAS MP and PKR Aduns. Basically both YB Khalids and Rodziah kena cow-cow dengan penyokong mereka sendiri, I must say they deserved the brickbat for their ignorance and arrogance. Such a pity Xavier Jayakumar does not have the balls to attend as well. The Meeting would not have happened if KDN Minister Hisham had not made the first move to meet the residents first to hear first hand about their complaint giving little chance for the PKR MB and the PAS MP to avoid a face off with their own constituents on the issue. The majority residents of Seksyen 23 and Shah Alam indeed all Selangor would do well to remember that in the next GE. The grass is not all that green on the other side.

I suppose, the devil you know is a lot better than the seemingly angel you do not know, who may turnout to be an arrogant beast in sheep's clothing.

Anonymous said...

Hahaha.... good one Rock, for those whom had sided one way or the others can just be at whatever they call peace. Hypocrites will always be hypocrites, I guess. These people can easily pin this on UMNO, UMNO this and that, whatever bad is always UMNO. The reason why the previous MB never had to go through this was, hmmm, probably, just maybe, he did it according to what people wanted it kot... I didnt hear anyone protest of any mosques or temples before in selangor, up until now. Again, mob rules are a trait of this PR thing usually used against BN in any shape possible. The yellow shirt march la, abolish ISA la, whatever bullcrap la, now, their own people, actually take this protest or march or peace rally or whatever you call it (it still means the same thing and looks like the same thing) to another level, up a notch, where they bring an item to symbolize how stupid someone can be or some people can be or the government can be. What is the difference between you wearing a yellow (sponsored shirt, I do wonder who got rich for those and whose money they used for it) shirt to a rally which symbolizes a yellow gathering for whatever yellow means to these idiots, and these people bringing a cow's head, which embodies the idea as stupid as a cow, to a march/gathering/peaceful rally/bullcrap? They are both, the shirt and the cow's head are the supposedly theme of the march/gathering/peaceful rally/bullcrap. It is just the cow's head, coincidently, are a sacred item to a group of race in this country. To all hypocrites out there, I betcha if the protest with the cow's head are towards any BN states or the federal govt, we would definitely hear very delusional stories on how the people have spoken, the BN are such bastards and the list of delusion and hypocrisy goes on and on..... Mengata dulang paku serpih, baling batu tangan sembunyi guys... these are what malaysians have come to.

Bey said...

Dear Rocky,

To hold an illegal assembly to demonstrate our view or anger is not the correct way. To rub the further salt into the wound, the demonstrators have used cow head to express their anger and disatisfaction toward Selangor government. This can incite racial friction with Indian community which is not good for our relationship with our Indian friends. We have been at each other throats for very long time already, we should stop this nonsense. But anyway, I do agree with you we should not make any decision unilaterally, a good government will make decision based on practicality and wisely. Therefore, this Selangor government failed in this regard = stupid.

e n g said...

haha Rocky... after tons of protests in Perak.. yet BN hasn't got the balls to call dialog .. or to call a fresh election
instead they used the polis time and time against to supress the protestors....

so.. that's better government?

Anonymous said...

A good government talk to the people. Is UMNO a good government?

- Crime rates?
- Corruption?
- Police abuse of power?
- Double standard on Shah Alam demonstrator and Peaceful Candle Light vigil?
- Racist articles on Utusan Malaysia?
- Leaders shouting for soaking Chinese blood?

We'll have to let Allah judge! May Allah protect Khalid Samad and Selangor MB. Most Malaysians know Pakatan Rakyat is stands for KEADILAN!

Rocky jangan ingat kita anak Malaysia bodoh!

Anonymous said...

By the way, Rocky you should be more like Marina. Being daughter of Mahathir, she dares to condemn what happen at Shah Alam.

http://rantingsbymm.blogspot.com/

Rocky's Bru said...

Dear Srikanth,

I was not there but I've seen the pictures. Not pretty. Especially the face-off between the Malay-Muslim residents and the Indian-Hindu residents. Could have turned very ugly. I'm glad it did not.

Anonymous said...

hi,

it is an illegal temple in the first place....why build it? why relocation? just demolished all illegal buildings regardless the function of it!!!


ladyfromhell

Anonymous said...

UMNO are Sore Losers

Iggy

Anonymous said...

btw, calling someone "babi" etc...is too much, very rude indeed. same as bringing the cow head!!

ladyfromhell

Nik said...

Rocky,
Few Questions:

1. Since the Temple has been there in Sec.19 for over 150 years and well before any development - why should it be relocated? Since it was there first - just leave it there. The Sec. 19 residents should not complain as they knew the temple was there when they moved in.

2. Is it now acceptable for residents in Chinese Majority areas to protest and prevent the siting of any suraus or Mosques in their area. Imagine if they bought a pig's head in front of ta mosque's proposed location and left it there?

3. Khir Toyo's stupid plan was to relocate several Temples to one location - thus making Hindus travel even further than before.
The logic is stupid because why move several to one place.
Does that mean we should move mosques in Chinese majority areas to one location as well?

And as for these so-called Muslims - when was it acceptable to insult other religions by defiling a Cow's head and when was it acceptable to slur people with the word 'Babi'. These people by their actions are murtad already....

matador said...

We're lucky this inept state govt managed to avert a racial incident at the meeting. What was Khalid thinking?

The PR state govt started the fiasco in the first place by moving the temple to S23 and refusing to meet the residents earlier. Then in the scramble at damage control they organised a PR exercise (pun intended). They invited the residents for a meeting when tempers were already frayed.

What did they achieve with this meeting that they organised too late? I'm surprised chairs were not thrown at the town hall meeting.

Now neighbours who had previously lived peacefully in S23 return home with bad feelings because words had been said. Do you think things will be the same in S23 even if the temple is not relocated there? Inept.

Anonymous said...

Five times of 'Azan' " per day here in Malaysia ? So what ? Have we forgotten that Islam is the official religion of Malaysia ?

Would foreigners complain of the same, say in Jeddah or in Cairo or in Abu Dhabi ?

If you are bent on complaining of the same, then go to our some of our neighbouring countries !

But while you are here, just accept the situation and keep quiet ; and be grateful that our forefathers did what they did to make us have a country and citizenship !

A little understanding and humble acceptance is only a small sacrifice compared to those who had willingly sacrificed a much bigger share of their lot !

Anonymous said...

The PR supporters are either blind or plain stupid.

The Section 23 issue was caused by the failure of the state government to get the buy-in of the residents for the temple. It was never a religious issue.

Lets put it straight. The use of the cow head is beyond forgiveness. But the state arrogant failure to get the buy-in resulting to this situation is also unforgiveable.

But as usual the PR mouthpiece, the Malaysian Insider and the PR supporters are stupidly following the PR agenda without any sense of balance.

The protestors have a right here. Though they are wrong to use the cow head and should be punished for that but they have the right to object. You cannot argue that since we have a mosque everywhere then equally others should be entitled to a temple. This is an outright fallacy. In the west, like italy, france and even UK its almost impossible to build a mosque in a majority populated non-muslims area. Even though the application are by muslims citizens of that country. Why? Because the non-muslims objected to it for various unreasonable grounds. But no one including even the PR dogged supporters and Malaysian insider would ever call them as practising apartheid or racists and religous bigots like they are calling these section 23 people. Why is it in this case they do?

So now, in order for the muslims to get a mosque built in the West, they have to get the community's acceptance and buy-in. Allay the non-muslims counterpart's fear etc. Then only you can build a mosque.

So in Malaysia, if you build in an area mostly populated by muslims why is it so wrong to get a buy-in from that community. The selangor state government in this case failed miserably in the first instance to get the buy-in leading to this religious tensions. They are to be blame. But no. The pea brain malaysian insider editors and PRs blind followers are too stupidly partisan to know and accept the truth and false.

Thus the issue which should not have been a religious issue has turned out to be one and with deep implications. This is totally unnecessary and alarming. And this misplaced condemnation and castigations on the muslims malay do not help at all the issue if its to happen again in the future.

Anon C

Anonymous said...

Your wannabe cross-over to the Darkside is now complete.

Let the real show begin

nb. you have to watch your lousy postings tho. Getting so obvious they now stink ! $$ from UMNO is useless in Hell

no $$ 1

Anonymous said...

'penduduk seksyen 23' telah beri banyak bahan yang menarik kepada PR untuk hadapi sebarang pilihanraya..

hari tu kalian mengarak kepala lembu...sudah pasti UMNO jangan nak mimpi lagi undi kaum Hindu..

semalam kalian buat kerja gila babi lagi...kata toleransi tapi jiran sebelah beragama Hindu tuntut hak mereka kamu persetankan mereka...

teruskanlah wahai umno dengan 'kelembuan' kamu itu..!

anti-taik lembu

Anonymous said...

Whoever governs in a Malaysian state, be it BN, PKR, PAS or DAP, must learn from this incident.

You may win the election and govern a state in Malaysia but if you failed to win the hearts of the Malay Muslims, your winning is meaningless.

Please remember this: The Malay Muslims may vote you in but they will never sacrifice their birth right in their country, MALAYsia (not CHINAsia or INDIAsia here).

If you feel that their action at the dialog is frightening... I'll say that "YOU HAVE SEEN NOTHING YET".

Anonymous said...

Dah la baling kepala lembu...lepas tu panggil orang dgn nama2 tak elok. "MB Bodoh"? "Khalid Babi"?

Tak berhemah langsung perangai sesetengah orang. MALULAH SIKIT!!!

farha

Anonymous said...

To all idiot commenters who's still in love with the flip-flopiness of Pakatan Palat, all this bruaha could have been avoided if the stupid MB and it's 'not fit to be a polictician' MPs actually know basics of running a State let alone a country, especially in a unique multi race country like Malaysia.

In This case they should have done research and consulted the residents FIRST! But they didn't do this and this is the result!.

Pure and simple!

And to Donplaypuke. Did you just draw a parallel to what happen In pre-War Germany and Poland and also the genocide that happened in Bosnia & Africa that led to ethnic cleaning and genocide against Muslims??!

FIRSTLY of all that just shows what you think of Muslims in general, just a cause for their misfortunes. While the agent provocatuer who led to such cases are not highlighted (read the people of YOUR religion) And that shows what a TOTALLY bastard kind of a person you are hiding behind your motto of 1 race (which incidently actualy mean just your race, you know the cockroach type).

SECONDLY you'd fucking bet that IN MALAYSIA before we'd even let you bastards try to DO the same as those countries, we'd KICK you out of THIS country first. DON'T you even try with that kind of psychology on US man! FUCK YOU! Donplaypuke!!

Celaka jahanam punya bangsat!



@#*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

semua ini berlaku bila umno sudah kalah utk memerintah di 5buah negeri.bermula dari mac 08.dan populariti umno bn sudah merudum jatuh.dlm kotak fikiran org umno skrg matlamat menghalalkan cara setiap hari berfikir utk buat kacau, buat kacau, makan minum duit haram, tanggung anak bini guna duit haram, maki org tak sokong umno.sebab tu tok guru ckp umno boleh pergi jahanam!Tunggu bila umno bn hancur dlm pru13 nnt rakyat akan dihasut utk bergaduh sesama sendiri sehingga ada pertumpahan darah berlaku.pd mrk itu tidak penting asalkan kuasa menjajah rakyat terus kekal.

Anonymous said...

Inilah bala nya bila tok nenek kita bagi kerakyatan pd kaum2 pendatang dimesia. dia orang bukan reti bersyukur dan mengenang budi. malah melayu ditohmah dgn bermacam kata2 nista dan kesat.

so saya mintak semua orang melayu bersatu dibawah satu panji2 yang besar dan quddus untuk mengatur langkah agar bumi tanah melayu tidak lagi dilacurkan oleh kaum2 laknat tersebut.

jangan ada lagi tanah yang dijadikan sarang/kuil/tokong yang menyembah selain Allah yang Esa.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous,

"Let us be frank here. My staff's mum, a 56yr old Chinese Single Parents just got laid recently."

I thought that's supposed to be good news?

He he.

I saw two guys snatching a purse. Couldnt do anything. I just yelled Happy Deepavali.

-x

Anonymous said...

Tomyam @ 6:48 PM

The voice of the minority is more important because they ASSUMED that the majority will remain silent forever.

Well they are wrong as shown in this incident.

Remember the English word 'amok' comes from this region.

The only thing is that the dap clan may be clapping their hands.

I guess the residents need to voice their unhappiness through a legal venue and make the decision makers pay for their sloppiness.

Anonymous said...

dpp coined this term 'Tempe Imported Toyota'

Isn't he one RACIST fella

and he claims LOUDLY that he is neutral lah, fair lah, altruistic lah, poohh dah

i think he should FIRST help eradicate the caste system practised in Malaysian among the indians

Satu Sekilah Untuk Semua

rocky said...

demo is ok if done by UMNO or against PR. if by PR even less than 50, police tale strong action. spin as much as anyone can but the police actions are pretty clear to all.

the residents should sit and talk and debate but it seems they are unable. saw what reasons they gave for the temple not to be there..lame ones.

kersiMOOdin flip flop only after he saw the backlash. he should have stayed out as police were investigating but yet he met them and made stupid statements.

yes this will repeat again when a temple is build sonewhere else in Selangor. Now what will all these people and you say if there is a protest when a surau is suggested to be build in non muslim majority. well those who protest will be in ISA and amok will be a word used against them plus bloodshed.

So basically whether demo or sensitivity or understanding, it is one way street for people lead by UMNO and who thinking is influenced by Utusan.

Anonymous said...

Bodoh, polis dah cakap jangan buat, dia buat gak. Bila kena tangkap, memekak satu Malaysia cakap polis sokong UMNo.

Bodoh ke apa?

Ingat polis takde kerja lain sibuk nak kena tengok korang berarak tepi jalan?

Anonymous said...

perwira

Crime happens all over and committed by all types.
Even in peaceful neighbourhood with no any worship place nearby, everyday got snatch thieves.
Recently an Indian friend got her ring snatched off her fingers by two motocyclist passing her home.Many are held up at bus stop alsoalong mainroad.
Residents say these thieves possibly come from outskirt kampung/villages.

So Lets all be fearful of Judgement Day instead.

Jebat Mulia

Anonymous said...

The real truth is ...

the pakatan was never ready to govern, it was a fluke that arose from rejection of paklah

now the people who voted for pakatan are waking up to the fact that the learning curve for them has to be very steep if they want to display a semblance of competency

the very fact that this is a marriage of convenience is becoming very clear for all to see

but the 3 divergent parties KNOW that they have NO more chance to govern if they don't take this GOLDEN opportunity

so they have paid writers, cybertroopers to whack the present govt and make them out to be corrupted, inefficient, racist, and in short, to be brought down

this country is admired by many as a model of good governance irregardless of these intermittent troubles

despite what these detractors have to say about being the laughing stock, Malaysia has great potential to achieve vision 2020

basically because the foundation laid down by the great statesman Tun Dr Mahathir is comprehensive and well thought out

many love to criticise him but during his era, Malaysia was truly and grudgingly admired even by the little red dot

it is quite pathetic that some commenters expect you to be anti-govt

they fail to see that paklah's era is DIFFERENT from Najib's era

whateva, Rocky's blog is a great visit, just ignore those sulking childish immature presence

Anonymous said...

anon @ 4.23 AM

"Most Malaysians know Pakatan Rakyat is stands for KEADILAN!"

hahaha

this statement just clearly reflect the IQ of PR supporters

the truth is PR stands for anwar as pm-in-waiting

hahahahahahahahahahaha

Anonymous said...

Last year, around beginning May you said this in the Lake Club, K.L about an ideal civil society - “If the judiciary and media aren't free, it won't create the civil society we're hoping for.”

Even with the current situation and controls, we have a 'civil society' showcase where a fellow with long hair and blue T-shirt behaving like that in a dialogue.

And if your idea of free media has 'spin' as the foundation - you are indeed on the right track after all. No one can beat you at the spins you churn nowadays.

By the way - you referred us to an article in Agenda Daily. The same media has photos of you (click http://www.agendadaily.com/cms/content.jsp?id=com.tms.cms.article.Article_6115476f-cabec5bb-171b2460-9d19addf) .

And this guy who led the ruckus, he looks like your younger half too - when I see your own face in the Agenda Daily webpage above.

I suppose you and the Blogger Patriotik group are working overtime to ensure your payback to BN is delivered - after you got back your job at Malay Mail.

No wonder, you do not want to comment specifically on that guy's behaviour, but instead want to link it to an avoided confrontation between him and the Indians.

Why dont you admit lah, that you have been entrusted with takin the lead on spinning against Pakatan Rakyat?

And meanwhile the Federal government is still allowing more special draws where it is suspected that proceeds go to finace creation of frog ADUNs in PR controlled states.

No one seems to march to the Finance Ministry with cow heads for allowing such special draws.!!!

Well, the cows seem to choose which type of protest they want to be in?

Special draws bring in haram money -ok, so no need to participate.

But smell and sounds from a temple 300 meters away do upset the 'sane' behaviour of some residents - and that requires a cow to get involved.

What civil society is this bro?

ANOTHER MALAYSIAN

Anonymous said...

Masih aku ingat selalu ke tempat kerja pasti melewati satu jalan di Bukit Damansara, ada sebatang pokok yang kedudukannya betul-betul dipintu masuk sebuah rumah bungalow yang masih berpenghuni. Pangkal pokok tu adalah sikit rupa ‘macam’ kepala gajah (macam sahaja) – mula2 depa dok kalung bunga, lepas tu taruk lampu lepas tu ada putih2 mcm tepung – dari hari ke hari ada aja pertambahan aktiviti.

Korang bayangkanlah kalau pokok tu berada didepan rumah korang….

They just simply turn anything esp. tree or busut into their shrine & almost anywhere.

As opposed to surau/masjid, it is properly planned in development plan – u can see clearly ka now vinnan!!

Kasi sikit bacala..

Sam

Anonymous said...

yang protes tu semua kena bayar dengan khir toyo

Anonymous said...

Rocky,

CEO of a big company can have so much power and authority on his subordinates but the CEO of the most richest state (MB) is totally opposite in that he is not blessed with that kind of privilege.

MB's function is to serve the state and peoples' interest but not his party goal and interest. There are so much balancing act to be done wisely between governing with iron hand; rules of law; and peoples first.

No point being arrogant in this issue. However he should consider himself lucky as he can still learn the right formula from Najib.

Apolitikal

Anonymous said...

The day when all abode of worship could coexist within the neighbourhood is the day 1Malaysia is realised. The rest is just pipe dream.

Homo Sapiens

Anonymous said...

Bright Eyes,
Why don't you do these people a favour. Invite them to build this KUIL next to your house?

I guarantee, you are going to squirm and shreik and shiver.

Don't try to play politics here.

PERWIRA

Anonymous said...

Mob's rule. Definitely no no. This is the culture cultivated by PR/anwar. Good leader willface the prob heads on. Jgn asyik nak blame others.
This is a lesson to all.
Rozi66

Anonymous said...

Dear Rocky,

It seems that you are losing credibility...you are now becoming like an UMNO politician trying to play to the gallery...thats rather sad.

can you assert your fortitude in explaining the situation..please bro.

Johari Ismail

Anonymous said...

shakthy ,

nothing 2 said more...fuck
1maalaysia...

Anonymous said...

I agree. Khalid is stupid.

The answer to this kuil relocation is simple.

Errr.... Where does Khalid stay? As kerajaan Rakyat with Rakyat in mind, why not relocate the kuil next to Khalid's own house instead of the S23 residents? That will be brave of Khalid. Let see what his wife will do to him. This time will not be a cow head. Get my drift?

The S23 sure hell dont want the kuil.

Anonymous said...

I saw the videos... dear dear... feel the frustrations and fear in their voices and faces.

I feel real sad for the Seky23 community! Benar2 sedih.. I can already FEEL, akan hancur kesejahteraan dan keharmonian masa depan mereka kawasan mereka, WE ARE FACING IT FOR THE LAST 14years!

BELUM KENA BELUM RASA... PHOBIA..SERAM!!!!!!!!

One of our security Nepal guard was hacked and thrown inside a drain for dead. (dada terbelah, kepala ditetak) We the Residents helped him for 6months to nurse him back to health before him being able to go home to NEPAL..

PERWIRA

Anonymous said...

Sekurang2nya buat kuil duit sendiri. Nak buat masjid/surau perlu minta bantuan jais, adun, minta sedekah tepi pintu bank dan mcm 2 lg. Semua tman bru yg diduduki org islam mcm tu....malula wei bangga surau cantik tp mengemis.


Umang ai

Anonymous said...

Hie Rocky, it is not a flip flop. It is the blaoody Umno that started the whole things. We are not is the 60-ies. Pls remember that. That Haji Amir of Seksyen 23, pls drop yr word haji lah. Islam doesnt teach that way.

Sehingga kiamat, no more Umno in the history of my family. Good bye Umno

Anonymous said...

Pakatan brothers!

Pak lah the PM that you idiots wanted to stay on, looks like he has an advise for your Khalid and his State Governmetn.

Read this!!

KEPALA BATAS, Sept 6 (Bernama) -- The Selangor government should have resolved the Shah Alam temple relocation issue much earlier to avoid racial tension, former prime minister Tun Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said.

He said the state government should realise that delay in resolving the relocation of Sri Maha Mariamman temple from Section 19 ke Section 23 would lead to trouble.

"I read in newspapers that the Menteri Besar said the Selangor government will find a new location for the temple. This should have been done much earlier," he said after presenting scholarships and hampers in conjunction with Aidilfitri here on Sunday.

Abdullah said media reports on the demonstration by Section 23 residents in Shah Alam showed that racial ties were not good and that there were religious problems.

Religious issues should be resolved amicably otherwise it would lead to strong reaction and cause tension among the people, he added.

-- BERNAMA

Hahahaha!!kiok!

AminGL said...

Guys,

Don't you know Rockybru has already replaced both ex-NST, Brendan Pereira and Kalimullah Hassan as the undisputed Spin Doctor champion in the mainstream newspapers to serve the Darkside?

Django Ang said...

Rocky, pse stop your lies, half-truths and shameless propaganda. Pse search your conscience before you continue to spin. You have attacked Brendan the Bastard for over-spinning, yet you are the worst spinner of all.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

yang protes tu semua kena bayar dengan khir toyo

12:00 PM

YANG MB, MP DAN ADUN TU SEMUA JADI LEMBU DAN KENA TUNGGANG DENGAN AL-JUBURI

Samseng S23 said...

Rocky,

Ini semua orang macam Samseng. Dia orang macam tak erti nak behave baik-baik.

Budak kurang ajar yang tarik kerusi penduduk berbangsa India tu harus dirotan.

Peristiwa yang sedih buat Bulan Ramadhan ini.

Dia orang yang tidak layak nak jadi Melayu. Bukan Tan Sri Khalid.

Nak spin pun bukan gitu, Rocky.

Anonymous said...

y some of u blame umno for the kepala lembu incident? do u have any bukti? even if u hate somethingm please b rational.

n y don't PR consult the people first?
the previous state gov already found a place in sek.18 to relocate the temple. y don't u do some research or ask first before making decision...?

rakyat jelata

Anonymous said...

pakatan invest heavily in managing people's perception

half the time these protest participants are unaware of what is perceived by the public

the pas anti-isa protesters could not answer the question of what they are protesting about

the cow head was also a surprise last minute addition to the protest march

hindraf was all show then now quiet after paklah handover

teoh beng hock's death was all howls, crying and banners

all for international consumption

the one who pays the price are the ordinary men in the street

whose daily lives are disrupted

rewind to the day when Jacklyn Victor was crowned 1st Malaysian idol

a christian indian female - a minority of minorities

when Malaysia was at her best - don't lose it people

Anonymous said...

hey semua inilah bangsat s23 geng geng perwira,muahahaha dan lain lain si bodoh kat sini..everybody dont mix with this kind of malay...
ingat ini negara kamu ke???perogol anak sendiri...

Anak Perelih said...

well.. looks like you support barbarian and hooligan acts... If they don agree with the relocation, they should do it in a proper manner, not like that unIslamic barbaric hooligan way....

Anonymous said...

yang protes tu semua kena bayar dengan Lim kit siang...sebab melayu mana ada duit....
Kawan lim kit siang says

Anonymous said...

Rocky,

The angry residents there are not to listen to the views of the people but to sabotage it by hurling all sorts of things against the MB and the the MP for Shah Alam.It is a disgrace and how to solve things if this type of unruly barbarians are allowed in the meeting.

Penyokong Tegar Dato Najib Razak said...

BERITA GEMPAK GEMPUR GEDEMBAK!!!!


Mereka-mereka yang terlibat dalam perarakan kepala lembu telah disiasat dan diketahui identiti mereka dan pangkat mereka dalam UMNO Selangor.

Mereka-mereka jugalah duduk bersama-sama dan berdiri di belakang Menteri Hishamuddin Hussein yang menyokong mereka dalam press conference hari itu.

Mereka telah dikaitkan dengan jelas dari bukti video dan foto sebagai mereka yang mengangkat dan membawa kepala lembu.

Kalau Hishamuddin Hussein cakap mereka harus ditangkap, mereka berduduk dengan Hishamuddin Hussein?

UNTUK MEMBACA DENGAN SELANJUTNYA, SILA LAYARI LAMAN WEB INI DAN INI.

Rocky, aku rasa rancangan kau untuk mempertahankan tindakan dalang-dalang UMNO ini SUDAH KOYAK RABAK.

Jangan lakon buta dan pekak. Tolonglah buka mata dan LIHAT bukti-bukti di atas dengan sendiri, Rocky.

Moga-moga Tuhan membuka hati kamu daripada dilamun kegelapan dan ketidakadilan.

Anonymous said...

Samseng S23,

Belum kena belum faham..

The desperation and disgust on the faces of the Seky23 residents!

They are being more than POLITE! Kalau ini kat kawasan kami, kami baling taik lembu kat muka dua dua Khalid tu.

And the APEKS will baling taik BABI because they too WILL protest!

PERWIRA

Rozaimah Ayu Zaini said...

Rocky,

Kenapa tak letak video ni sekali, video orang orang UMNO kau buat kecoh dan memalukan Melayu di dalam pertemuan penduduk Seksyen 23 itu?

Bagi yang lain, kalau nak tengok, gi sini.

Bulan Puasa pun diorang buat gini... ya Allah...

Anak Timur Laut said...

this is what would happen if one is only half-cooked in understanding his own religion. he would become intolerant and irrational in his actions (maki, baling kerusi etc).

I dare to say that not many of them are of equal standing with YB Rodziah and Khalid Samad in term of understanding Islam.

Anonymous said...

Khalid deserved the whacking for being too stupid...and to the residents.. padan muka for voting PR.next election vote lagi ye..then you'll have more kuils everywhere and every corner of your house

takgagap

Anonymous said...

To Samseng S23

Sekurang-kurangnya orang S. 23 tidak memukul polis sampai berdarah kepala seperti yang dilakukan oleh Hindraf semasa demo di KLCC. Tak percaya? Cari kat Youtube je.

Sekurang-kurangnya orang S.23 tidak menyusahkan peniaga-peniaga kecil Melayu di Jln. TAR dan kesesakan lalulintas seperti yang dilakukan oleh pendemo PAS masa demo anti ISA.

Asal MP Khalid bukan bapak kau, lantak diaorang la nak panggil babi ke khinzir ke (melainkan kau angap Anwar to tuhan kau dan MP Khalid tu malaikat kau). Lagipun kau orang panggil Najib sebagai Najis dan Dr. Mahathir sebagai Mahafiraun boleh plak.

-Koko

Anonymous said...

hahaha! U sure hv lots of stupid umno cyberians in here!

Stupid becos someone commented that those who support the temple being built in sek23 shld have a temple being built next to our house. Why, what good argument! INTELLIGENT!

But have u forgotten that in Malaysia we have already so many mosques built next to houses?

We have been tolerant with one another and have done so, why the sudden flare up?

If not becos of someone working overtime from the back u think this demo would hv taken place?

Think la BODOH! No wonder no one look up on u guys!



ahgroo


p/s : is Rocky still in the Blogger whatever it was panel? Good riddance!

Anonymous said...

Kawan-kawan

Mau tanya sikit boleh? Sejak bila bawa kepala lembu dah jadi satu kesalahan?

Kalau macam tu Hari Raya ni tak boleh jual daging lembu tepi jalan lah. Habis towkey daging kena tangkap sebab gantung empat kaki/peha lembu digerai mereka. Dah tu kepala lembu tersembul diatas meja.

Kesian towkey daging lembu ... salah langkah kena raya dalam lokap.

Nak jual atau pindahkan daging/kepala lembu kena minta permit dari Hindu Sanggam dan Hindraf ke?

Tomyam

org minyak said...

rocky..
rege petrol dah naik,
apa spin engko kali ni????

matador said...

"I saw two guys snatching a purse. Couldnt do anything. I just yelled Happy Deepavali.

-x"


Thanks for the chuckle, x

That's a good one :)

Anonymous said...

cocky brudu

itu lelaki rambut panjang lu punya saudara ka?

sama haprak macam lu la

jibam

Md Sah said...

All this kecoh was the work of UMNO!

Anonymous said...

Blogger Anak Timur Laut said...

this is what would happen if one is only half-cooked in understanding his own religion. he would become intolerant and irrational in his actions (maki, baling kerusi etc).

---------------------------------------

When come to the local residents right to a peaceful neighborhood, it got nothing to do with race, religion and whatnot. Those baling kerusi habit is probably copied from the MGR films; and the maki hamun concept has becoming so popular amongst the Muslim because the Islamic Party itself endorsed it. What goes around come around.

Apolitikal

Anonymous said...

Ini baru negeri yang Pakatan perintah, kalau Pakatan perintah negara entah macam manalah huruhara.

Jay.

Anonymous said...

Simple conclusion is: -

"Pakatan bodoh tak tah tadbir negeri."

You might want to spin it as being transparentlah, opposition instigatedlah or over the top protestlah, the buck still stops at the leader, i.e Khalid.

So, the simple conclusion is "Pakatan bodoh tak tahu tadbir negeri"

Ms.Eu Mei Fatt

Anonymous said...

@Tomyam

Bawa kepala lembu satu kesalahan ke tak?
Memang la tak salah kalo nak junjung g gerai wat Sup Kepala Lembu.

Tapi kepala lembu ni terang2 nak hina kaum Hindu, yg p bwk kepala lmbu kat demo tu wat pe??.

Memalukan Islam betul
sebab berita ni satu dunia dah tau.
Makin benci orang2 barat kat Islam bila mereka tau perangai org Islam mcm ni..

Memalukan Islam betul
sebab benda ni berlaku bulan Ramadan..

Memalukan Islam betul
sebab seolah2 menghina (BABI,dll) orang dianggap perkara biasa, terutama sekali di bulan Ramadan (baca : RAMADAN!! )


Islam Tak ajar umatnya menjadi perkauman.

Islam Tak ajar umatnya mengina manusia lain (lebih2 lagi org ISLAM juga!!)

Islam TAK ajar umatnya menghina agama lain!!

Salam,
budakbesar

glassman said...

we can all see bull and cows head next Aidil Adhaa, so there, happy now?

jitraguy said...

Bravo to Khalid for making a wise decision.
It shows a responsible MB in action.
What else was there for him to do in light of unruly behaviour around him.

Actually this story has gone all over the world.
Countries all over are reading about it in the net especially.
This shameful cow head incident has gone worldwide taking with it our much soldover "Malaysia Truly Asia" label.
Lets hope peace and good reasoning prevails to ensure nothing untoward happens further.
We have a vision to achieve by 2020.
what a laff! typical perasan attitude or should I say syndrome? Perasan SYndrome as if we are the center of the universe and the world care about what happens here? LOL.. Look at Somalia, Lebanon, Palestine and you feel ashame that 50 people protested over a temple . What about the thousand year old mosque in India?

So perasaaaaannnnnnnn maaa,,, hahahaha

Mi Rebus Jawa said...

Boleh saya protest pembinaan masjid di kawasan rumah saya? Boleh saya bawa kepala babi?

Tomyam..di Malaysia saja anda dapat lihat kepala lembu gantung di tepi jln. Cuba pi negara lain tengok...

Anonymous said...

Rocky -

If you are an honourable man, would you post a link to Marina Mahathir's blog as well so that your readers get a couple of angles to this.

It will do your reputation some good as well if you could counter her statements in your next post.

Looking forward to reading it.

jo

ROY's said...

Dear Bro,

As usual I know you'll never publish my comments....

Be brave bro...

mr objective said...

By the way, do the authorities consult the non-muslim residents each time they want to build mosques, which is like everywhere. I live in a pre-dominantly chinese area but there is one surau and a big mosque. Nobody asked us anything, why should the PKR Govt consult the residents when they allowed for a temple to be built. For crying out loud the Malays should stop thinking this country belongs to them and the rest of us are immigrants. Check history guys, the Malays are immigrants too, the true-blue bumis are the orang asli people. so stop lording it up. Yes Rocky there is democracy, and one day they will rise even stronger against the racists and the bigots.

Anonymous said...

menyesal lawat blog nih..
Jenayah bukan hanya org bukan Islam buat. Orang Islam pun ramai yg buat. bukan kat SS23 je ada jenayah. NI harga minyak malaysia dah naik lagi. sure lagi banyak jenayah bila rakyat semakin tak mampu..

Masih berbakikah pahala puasa orang2 yg mengaku islam tapi memaki2 saudara sesama Islam? dimana polis? kenapa tak hadir walaupun setelah dijemput oleh MBSA? penguatkuasaan terpilih ke?

Dah syarat PKNS semua projek pembinaan kena ada 60% melayu. habis kalau dah rata2 projek PKNS je kat kawasan tengah shah alam nih, org bukan islam nak beribadat kat mana? dlm hutan? Aku pun tak suka kuil dekat dgn rumah, tapi adakah jika kuil terletak depan rumah aku akan menyebabkan runtuh akidah aku? insyaallah tidak. cuba fikir jika org Islam pulak jadi kaum minority. adakah kita suka dilayan seperti ini? Ingatlah doa orang2 yg dizalimi dimakbulkan Allah walaupun dia bukan Islam.. Jadi jangan golongkan diri kita dalam golongan orang2 yang zalim

Tabik spring pada MB, Ahli Parlimen, Adun dan penguatkuasa MBSA kerana sabar melayan kerenah penduduk (sesetengah tu betul ke penduduk sah SS23, tak tau la pulak) walaupun sesetengah daripada mereka macam tak sekolah/beli title haji. Syabas kerana melaksanakan tanggung-jawab dengan berani. Jgn jadi pemimpin yang hanya pandai berkokok tapi hanya dicelah2 ketiak penguatkuasa/polis.
tepuk dada, tanya iman. It takes a lot of courage to be that kind of a leader. Korang semua ada berani?
-Hesni, Puchong (kawasan banyak kuil, tak kepoh pun).

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Kawan-kawan

"Mau tanya sikit boleh? Sejak bila bawa kepala lembu dah jadi satu kesalahan?"

KAH, KAH, jawapannya senang saja bro. Ia itu sejak parti pasu berkawan ngan lembu, beb!!!

Anonymous said...

Aljajawi, 6:03 PM, said

"So, it is all right to call an MB or any person BABI during the fasting month, huh? Masya Allah! What has happened to my fellow Muslims during this holy month of Ramadhan? Astaghfirullah!"

In the current political climate, everything is permissible. Tanya lah Nik Aziz dan Anwar Ibrahim. Tuhan pun mencarut. Marilah sama-sama kita semua mencarut bila kita tak setuju dengan apa saja dalam dunia. Cuma nak kena nita kerana Allah.

Anak Permatang Pauh

Anonymous said...

Rozaimah Ayu Zaini said...

"Kenapa tak letak video ni sekali, video orang orang UMNO kau buat kecoh dan memalukan Melayu di dalam pertemuan penduduk Seksyen 23 itu?

"Bagi yang lain, kalau nak tengok, gi sini.

"Bulan Puasa pun diorang buat gini... ya Allah...

-----------------------------------

Jangan salahkan depa tetapi salahkan tok jiz kita yang ajar mencaci dan mencari salah orang semasa berkempen di bulan puasa.

Selagi pemimpin buat teladan lagu tu, orang biasapun apa lagi...ikut sajalah!!!

Pro PKR

Khun Pana aka johanssm said...

Rocky, if you really wants to have this in your blog, pls report all the words uttered.

And those exact words used are - "Woi, kaulah pengkhianat…pengkhianat agamalah pukimak!Aku tak nak dengar kau cakap. Duduk! Duduk YB bodoh! Duduk," cemuhnya."Hoi Khalid (Samad), kau duduk. Kau belum kenal aku siapa? Selepas ini, kau jangan turun Seksyen 23, kalau tidak, kau mati. Ini kawasan majoriti Melayu!""Bodoh punya wakil rakyat. Bodoh punya MB. Khalid (Ibrahim), kenapa kau cakap terketar-ketar. Kau gagap. Orang gagap tak boleh jadi MB (Menteri Besar)!"

Why you and the rest of the Msm omitted some words there.
If they think those words are good enough to be use in a meeting then it is good enough to be printed out.
The people will be the judges and juries.

Anonymous said...

PR has stepped on the residents' toe so it is about time they face the music.

Anonymous said...

Yes, these residents have every rights to accept or reject whatever developments that are planned out for them by the PR government.

By the way, Ketuanan Rakyat means peoples are the ones who gonna decide their fiefdom but not the other way round (PR treating rakyat as their fiefdom).

Hadi Kecik Awang

Rocky's Bru said...

Jo 12.12am,

Am not sure which of Marina's postings you wanted me to link, so I decided on the latest.

Happy reading (though I'm sure you have read it already, even before leaving your comment here).

monsterball said...

Yea yea yea...Keep reporting all the one sided bad news of opposition managements.
Najib said people are against PR governing the few States.
Is that not a wonderful time for him to call a snap 13th GE...to get elected by the people...and kill off PR?
Dare not...just shut up!!
He is such a cunning liar and schemer..and Rocky is no better.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Rocky -

If you are an honourable man, would you post a link to Marina Mahathir's blog as well so that your readers get a couple of angles to this.

It will do your reputation some good as well if you could counter her statements in your next post.

Looking forward to reading it.

jo

======================================

Jo,

Everyone is entitle to his/her opinion on any subject matter. Marina's take on this issue implies that democracy is still alive and kicking.

We should welcome dissent opinions amongst all the blogs and we hope our side (the opposition side) would follow suit.

Yes, we do expect our coalition (PR) to respect dissent views but not to treat them like a sore thumb that sticking out and as such need to be chopped off in no time!

Don't Take Beer

Anonymous said...

Mr objective,
Jangan perasan sangat. No Muslims will want a mosque anywhere near a Chinese Majority community.

NAJIS banyak, do you know what is NAJIS?

If there are 300 of you, there will at least be about 300dogs. And the way you all handle your pets, strays all over, you think the dogs got HEAD to understand if it is the MOSQUE compounds and NO ENTRY means no entry to them..

My kids schools having problems with dogs, they even BERAK dalam classroom and ATTACK schoolkids. ITU BARU SEKOLAH!

Surau or mosques are open places, imagine the dogs berak here and there.

PISS off ler APER, MUSLIMS are rational where building mosques are concerned. It took our Kampung 25years with a 100% Muslim community to build a mosque..

There are conditions where a MOSQUE can be built... PIIIIRAAAAH, Majority Chinese area! LU BOLEH JALAN LER, TRY YOUR LUCK SOMEWHERE ELSE APEK!

PERWIRA

Anonymous said...

Some guy said that Malaysian has succumb to a new low...

A typical Chinese who forgot about their status as Pendatang.



Notorp

Anonymous said...

Both BN and PR are useless in this case. THE KUIL IS ILLEGAL!! BUILT ON AN ILLEGAL LAND! Why need to relocate? ABOLISH!!

Like that I also can say, last night I dream that God told me to build a house in front of KLCC. Start with flowers first, then expand until it becomes like a mansion.

CAN AH?

What bullshit!!!

Faiz said...

I think the cow's head is to show Khalid's inability to govern rather than to insult the Hindus. Media really got this well-spin, to sell their story of course.

Anonymous said...

Rocky

Thanks for putting up the link.

I obviously read MM's take but what I was looking forward to was your comments on her piece....agree, disagree, analysis of reasons why we do the things we do etc.

Thought that it would have been helpful is understanding what we are today and why. From a non political angle of course, if that is possible.

jo

Anonymous said...

Yo! S23 guys, now that's what i call sayin' it to the face! Keep it up guys and maybe (maybe lah) one day the stooooopid Pakatan (not fit to be) leaders and it's wayward followers will sit and think... Yeah, what the residents said were right, we ARE exactly the mirror image of the hurled abuses because we SCREWED UP Big Time and in fact we can't govern. So we will just give back the responsibilities to BN and fade away.

Real world justice is on it's way...



@#*!!!

Anonymous said...

Rocky,

Gua suka baca komen dan menilai telatah orang dari komen mereka .. Kesimpulannya, ada yang tak belajar serta kurang diajar masa membesar;
Ramai yang pandai main gasing 'spin';

Gua sendiri tak rasa hairan dgn kekecohan tu, pasal caci maki dan demo jalan dah jadi darah daging kita. Kalau tak caya minta rujuk dgn Tok Guru dan DSAI (Bapa Demo Jalanan)

Anonymous said...

Here's a taste of 'democracy' for the Menteri Besar.

Nice isn't it?

So, is the ISA still necessary or does YB Khalid wish he could just lock up the residents and throw the key away?

It's your baby, YB. You rock it.

A GOOD MAN DOES NOTHING.

Anonymous said...

Jitraguy

I am not surprised you dont feel ashamed about the cow head being spat upon and kicked upon.
But is is not the local culture of this nation to do that.
This kind of behaviour speaks VOLUMES of the kind of people who did it.
I as a Malaysian am TRULY ASHAMED.
No religion teaches such DISRESPECT even to ANIMALS.
This is what i am saying has gone around the world and it TOO LATE.
Only the RESPONSE by the authorities will ensure if our maruah is redeemed.
Please jitraguy dont be happy about this incident just becos some fellows with muslim names did it.
No,you must assess it based on the purity and the goodness of the religion you are following.
Dont get sidetracked by whats happenning in Somalia, LEBONAN or Palestine. If you can go there and do something BUT you are here in Malaysia and two WRONGS dont make a right.

Jebat Mulia

Anonymous said...

Kelakar lah sesetengah orang cakap memalukan Islam, macam pandai sangat pasal agama. Pergi tanya kat nik Aziz ulama kau apa dia cakap pasal orang memaki, tuhan pun memaki katanya. Kalau dah tok guru kata macam itu apalagi pengikut dia, melainkanlah, makian itu ditujukan pada geng dia, haramlah... kalau ditujukan pada orang lain, terutama musuh azali BN atau UMNO, memaki tu boleh lah.

Bukan nak sokong BN ke apa, benci orang hipokrit lidah bercabang.

-koko

Sick&Tired said...

you are a cunt of the highest order! How can you justify what those racist, illiterate people did! They deserve to get whipped and thrown into jail. After seeing this, I am going to save my money, and migrate elsewhere. The future really looks bleak for Malaysia.

Anonymous said...

This is what we get when everyboby like to play like a hero....!!!

remember all the street protesters, HINDRAF, DAPigs demos when they like to have a political mileage on certain issues?It've been too long and the malays are watching too long silently.
so you like it or not, my personal thinking is that the malays are starting to show that they will not be silent anymore. It shows how frustrated they are and this is the first time they react like that since I don't know..maybe 2004,05,06 or since March 2008. You like it or not..when you try to play fire..you'll get a fire!!

If everybody like to live happily in this country..so do behave yourself...you should start thinking.."what have I done" rather keep accusing malays like that, chinese like this, Indian like this like that..it is still not too late to realise.

End of the day..we need each others for the benefit of the country.

man

man

Anonymous said...

Rocky,
Do you really believe in what u say? Anyone reading Hisham's response can tell that he was defending these bigots! He even said " why would we want to penalise anybody?"Obviously he was talking about those bigots! Next day, tukar cerita! If this is not flip flop than i don't know what is?
Democracy. Acting like hooligans is democracy to you? Shouting insults, disrespecting other religions, threatening bloodshed is democracy to you??
God, why am i even here? Last time u sing different tune, now lain pulak?
How much are THEY pay you to be the biggest flip flop ever huh? Can u sleep at nite? How can u even live with yourself?

org malaysia

Anonymous said...

I think the angry SS 23 residents were polite enough. This issue were not new. But the PR gov of Selangor has this notion that the residents would be stupid enough and just swallow whatever the great government of PR tell them to take.

But the PR gov was wrong. And they are dead wrong. These SS23 residents had to resort to the yelling and protesting. They were provoked.

To those idiots who blame UMNO. Get a life. Grow up.

Anonymous said...

Sick& Tired,

I salute you. Bila mau migrate? Saving your money now? Please post your bank account number. I would love to contribute.

You can start packing as soon as possible.

sayadahbosan ULTRA said...

salam

maafkan saya untuk menyatakan perkara ini tetapi parang saya sudah diasah tajam.

setiap hari asah parang tiba-tiba terlintas di fikiran sudah cukup tajamkah parang ini?

maka percubaan pun dilakukan.

hati-hati dengan tindak-tanduk sendiri kerana setiap perkara ada tindak balasnya tersendiri.

tahniah kepada puak PAS kerana membantu menajamkan parang-parang kumpulan ini.

saya harap parang-parang anda semua sudah cukup tajam untuk dicuba.

Anonymous said...

My request before you publish anything regarding whatever issue (now the focus is on Section 23), is that :-

1) Kindly do not look only at the surface of the matter. It has more layers than what was being portrayed by the media or by people of interest.

2) Study why the residents at Section 19 'demanded' the removal of the said temple & why the impact on the said temple (socially, physically &mentally), the lack of action & the biaseness by those elected thereof has angered the residents of Section 23. We have lived in peace & harmony with other residents from other races & beliefs (spiritual or political) for the past 4 years before the said elected officials suddenly dumps 'this matter' into our so-called laps....this is not a political ploy nor just a religious issue...it is more than that.

3) After doing 1) & 2) then put yourself in our shoes , how would you react if the same thing were to happen to you? Or would it be the case of 'calling the kettle black'...(if that is the right term)...

4) Study the Quran & Hadiths properly and as a whole, not partially just to prove your point.

5) Finally my deepest apologies for everything I've said, Maaf Zahir & Batin & Selamat Menunaikan Ibadah Puasa.





DENGAN MENYEBUT NAMA ALLAH YANG MAHA PEMURAH LAGI MAHA PENYAYANG.



Surat ini ditujukan kepada Khalid Ibrahim, Khalid Samad, Rodziah Ismail, Pengerusi Persatuan Penduduk Seksyen 23, Hj. Zainuddin & Pengerusi Surau Seksyen 23, Azrul Hakim, Penduduk ISLAM Seksyen 23, Para pemimpin ISLAM dan umat Islam keseluruhannya.



Saya merupakan seorang penduduk di Seksyen 23 dan telah hidup secara aman bersama jiran tetangga yang berbilang bangsa dan berlainan agama. Pelbagai aktiviti telah dianjurkan oleh Persatuan Penduduk untuk kebaikan penghuni tanpa mengira bangsa dan agama. Jiran-jiran saya terdiri dari kaum India. Ada yang beragama Kristian dan Hindu. Manakala kaum Cina pula ada yang beragama Kristian dan Buddha.. Saya terpanggil untuk memberikan sedikit cebisan pandangan saya berikutan kekecohan yang berlaku di kawasan perumahan kami sejak akhir-akhir ini. Semoga usaha saya ini mendapat keredhaan ALLAH S.W.T. INSYAALLAH.



Saya ucapkan tahniah kepada KHALID IBRAHIM kerana masih ingin meneruskan hasrat untuk memindahkan kuil dari Seksyen 19 ke Seksyen 23. Perlu diingat sejarah Khir Toyo dan UMNO/BN, SALAH SATU FAKTOR KEKALAHAN pada 2008 adalah berpunca dari ‘anugerah penyapu’ yang diberikan. TIDAK MUSTAHIL KEJATUHAN PAKATAN RAKYAT SELANGOR AKAN BERPUNCA DARI PROJEK KANDANG KHINZIR, ISU ARAK DAN PEMBINAAN ATAU PEMINDAHAN KUIL. INSYAALLAH.


ehsan23

Anonymous said...

Saya juga mengucapkan terima kasih kepada KHALID SAMAD kerana menerangkan sejarah kuil di Seksyen 19 dengan begitu panjang lebar. Cuma tuan TERLUPA menjawab isu yang dibangkitkan oleh penduduk Seksyen 23 - MENGAPA PEMINDAHAN KUIL DARI SEKSYEN 19 DIPINDAHKAN KE SEKSYEN 23 YANG MANA MAJORITI PENDUDUK ADALAH YANG BERAGAMA ISLAM? Sedangkan pada bulan Mei 2009, pertanyaan penduduk mengenai isu kuil tersebut ditolak mentah-mentah dan penduduk dikatatakan mempercayai ‘khabar angin’. ADAKAH INI JAWAPAN DAN TINDAK TANDUK SEORANG PEMIMPIN ISLAM YANG DILANTIK? KINI, SUDAH TERANG LAGI BERSULUH!!!



Sekiranya UMNO/BN GAGAL menangani isu kuil di seksyen 19 yang mana majoriti penduduk adalah beragama ISLAM, tuan sebagai salah seorang pemimpin yang dilantik hendaklah cuba menyelesaikannya permasalahan penduduk tersebut. Sekiranya SATU-SATUNYA JALAN PENYELESAIAN YANG DAPAT DICAPAI ADALAH SEKADAR MEMINDAHKAN KUIL DARI SEKSYEN 19 KE SEKSYEN 23 YANG JUGA MEMPUNYAI MAJORITI PENDUDUK YANG BERAGAMA ISLAM, itu bukanlah satu penyelesaian yang bijak kerana anda cuma ‘MENCAMPAKKAN’ MASALAH KUIL DI SEKSYEN 19 KE SEKSYEN 23!!!



ADAKAH KERAJAAN PAKATAN RAKYAT PULA INGIN MENCIPTA REKOD UNTUK MEMINDAHKAN KUIL DARI SEKSYEN 19 KE SEKSYEN 23 DAN MENGULANGI IGAUAN DAN TRAUMA YANG DIHADAPI OLEH PENDUDUK ISLAM DI SEKSYEN 19 KEPADA PENDUDUK ISLAM DI SEKSYEN 23 DALAM TEMPOH TIDAK SAMPAI 2 TAHUN SEJAK MEMERINTAH SELANGOR???



ADAKAH INI PERUBAHAN YANG DIINGINKAN OLEH PENDUDUK SHAH ALAM SEWAKTU MENGUNDI PADA 2008???



ehsan23

Anonymous said...

Di Malaysia, terdapat kepelbagaian agama, bangsa dan kaum, maka lahirlah pelbagai parti politik seperti UMNO, PAS, PKR, DAP dan lain-lain. Mereka semua ada yang hidup berjiran. Begitu juga di Seksyen 23. TETAPI KAMI TIDAK PERNAH MENJADIKAN PARTI POLITIK SEBAGAI ALASAN UNTUK BERMUSUH DAN KAMI DAPAT HIDUP BERJIRAN DENGAN AMAN. KEPADA AHLI-AHLI POLITIK, CUBA CELIKKAN MATA DAN BUKA MINDA MENGENAI ISU YANG SEBENARNYA! KAMI MEMBANTAH PEMINDAHAN KUIL DARI SEKSYEN 19 KE SEKSYEN 23 DI MANA MAJORITI PENDUDUK ADALAH BERAGAMA ISLAM!!!



Kepada RODZIAH ISMAIL pula saya ucapkan jutaan terima kasih kerana ketidakprihatinan puan ke atas permasalahan yang melanda penduduk ISLAM di Seksyen 23. PERTANYAAN PENDUDUK DARI BULAN MEI 2009 MENGENAI ISU KUIL TERSEBUT HANYA DIJAWAB PADA BULAN OGOS 2009. ITUPUN JAWAPAN DIBERIKAN MELALUI MEDIA CETAK. MENGAPA WAKIL RAKYAT UNTUK PENDUDUK SEKSYEN 23 PERLU ADA PEJABAT DI SEKSYEN 23 SEKIRANYA TIDAK PERNAH BERJUMPA ATAUPUN INGIN BERKHIDMAT UNTUK PENDUDUK SEKSYEN 23???

ehsan23

Anonymous said...

Kepada Pengerusi Penduduk, HAJI ZAINUDIN, saya berharap tuan agar dapat memimpin penduduk ISLAM Seksyen 23 bagi membela nasib kami dan anak-anak kami demi menegakkan agama ISLAM. INSYAALLAH.



SURAH AT-TAUBAH : 123

“Hai orang-orang yang beriman, perangilah orang-orang kafir yang di sekitar kamu itu, dan hendaklah mereka menemui kekerasan daripadamu, dan ketahuilah, BAHAWASANYA ALLAH BESERTA ORANG-ORANG YANG BERTAQWA.”



Kepada Pengerusi Surau, AZRUL HAKIM, saya utarakan pertanyaan-pertanyaan tersebut. Adakah wajar seseorang mengherdik dan memaki seseorang yang lebih tua dari dirinya yang sebaya dengan ayahnya sendiri? Dalam ceramah agama pula adakah wajar diceritakan perihal seorang pendakwah bebas yang ‘berkawan rapat’ dengan seorang artis wanita sebelum isteri pendakwah bebas tersebut tampil ke media massa untuk menerangkan keadaan sebenar rumahtangga mereka? Adakah wajar juga sewaktu ceramah agama, dijadikan medan untuk menjelaskan mengenai lokasi kuil sedangkan orang yang menjelaskan perkara tersebut bukanlah ahli yang layak ataupun wakil rakyat yang dilantik untuk menerangkannya kepada penduduk? Adakah wajar juga sesi ceramah agama dijadikan medan untuk memburuk-burukkan orang-orang lain yang seagama ISLAM hanya kerana berlainan pendapat atau berlainan parti politik? WALLAHU’ALAM.



AKHIR SEKALI, saya memohon maaf di atas kata-kata yang menyinggung perasaan tuan puan tetapi saya menjalankan tanggungjawab saya sebagai seorang ISLAM untuk mengingatkan di antara satu sama lain. SEGALA YANG BAIK DATANGLAH DARI ALLAH S.W.T DAN YANG BURUK DATANGNYA DARI SAYA SENDIRI.



SURAH AL-FURQAN : 17

”Dan (ingatlah) suatu hari (ketika) ALLAH menghimpunkan mereka beserta apa yang mereka sembah selain ALLAH , lalu ALLAH berkata (kepada yang disembah); ‘ Apakah kamu yang menyesatkan hamba-hambaKU itu, atau mereka sendirikah yang sesat dari jalan (yang benar)?”



AL-FATIHAH : 5-7

“Hanya kepada engkaulah kami menyembah dan hanya kepada engkaulah kami mohon pertolongan”. TUNJUKILAH KAMI JALAN YANG LURUS, (iaitu) jalan orang-orang yang telah engkau anugerahkan nikmat kepada mereka; bukan (jalan) mereka yang dimurkai (Yahudi), dan bukan (pula jalan ) mereka yang sesat (Nasrani)”.



SURAH AL-AN’AM : 162

“SESUNGGUHNYA SOLATKU, IBADATKU, HIDUPKU DAN MATIKU HANYA UNTUK ALLAH, TUHAN SEMESTA ALAM.”



AMIN YA RABBAL ALAMIN.

SURAH AL-MAIDAH : 90

“Hai orang-orang yang beriman, sesungguhnya (meminum) khamar (arak), berjudi, (BERKORBAN UNTUK) BERHALA, mengundi nasib dengan panah adalah perbuatan keji termasuk perbuatan syaitan. Maka jauhilah perbuatan-perbuatan itu agar kamu mendapat keberuntungan.”


ehsan23

Anonymous said...

ah buri* lah depa ni semua.

tunjuk perasan arak kepala lembu salah, depa letak kepala babi kat melaka hari tu tak salah.

pukim** lah ...

- hantu siber -

Anonymous said...

Salam. Just a little something from one of the residents of Section 23, Shah Alam. My request before you publish anything regarding whatever issue (now the focus is on Section 23), is that :-
1) Kindly do not look only at the surface of the matter. It has more layers than what was being portrayed by the media or by people of interest.

2) Study why the residents at Section 19 'demanded' the removal of the said temple & why the impact on the said temple (socially, physically &mentally), the lack of action & the biaseness by those elected thereof has angered the residents of Section 23. We have lived in peace & harmony with other residents from other races & beliefs (spiritual or political) for the past 4 years before the said elected officials suddenly dumps 'this matter' into our so-called laps....this is not a political ploy nor just a religious issue...it is more than that.

3) After doing 1) & 2) then put yourself in our shoes , how would you react if the same thing were to happen to you? Or would it be the case of 'calling the kettle black'...(if that is the right term)...

4) Study the Quran & Hadiths properly and as a whole, not partially just to prove your point.

5) Finally my deepest apologies for everything I've said, Maaf Zahir & Batin & Selamat Menunaikan Ibadah Puasa.


ehsan23

Anonymous said...

DENGAN MENYEBUT NAMA ALLAH YANG MAHA PEMURAH LAGI MAHA PENYAYANG.

Surat ini ditujukan kepada Khalid Ibrahim, Khalid Samad, Rodziah Ismail, Pengerusi Persatuan Penduduk Seksyen 23, Hj. Zainuddin & Pengerusi Surau Seksyen 23, Azrul Hakim, Penduduk ISLAM Seksyen 23, Para pemimpin ISLAM dan umat ISLAM keseluruhannya.

Saya merupakan seorang penduduk di Seksyen 23 dan telah hidup secara aman bersama jiran tetangga yang berbilang bangsa dan berlainan agama. Pelbagai aktiviti telah dianjurkan oleh Persatuan Penduduk untuk kebaikan penghuni tanpa mengira bangsa dan agama. Jiran-jiran saya terdiri dari kaum India. Ada yang beragama Kristian dan Hindu. Manakala kaum Cina pula ada yang beragama Kristian dan Buddha.. Saya terpanggil untuk memberikan sedikit cebisan pandangan saya berikutan kekecohan yang berlaku di kawasan perumahan kami sejak akhir-akhir ini. Semoga usaha saya ini mendapat keredhaan ALLAH S.W.T. INSYAALLAH.

Saya ucapkan tahniah kepada KHALID IBRAHIM kerana masih ingin meneruskan hasrat untuk memindahkan kuil dari Seksyen 19 ke Seksyen 23. Perlu diingat sejarah Khir Toyo dan UMNO/BN, SALAH SATU FAKTOR KEKALAHAN pada 2008 adalah berpunca dari ‘anugerah penyapu’ yang diberikan. TIDAK MUSTAHIL KEJATUHAN PAKATAN RAKYAT SELANGOR AKAN BERPUNCA DARI PROJEK KANDANG KHINZIR, ISU ARAK DAN PEMBINAAN ATAU PEMINDAHAN KUIL. INSYAALLAH.

Saya juga mengucapkan terima kasih kepada KHALID SAMAD kerana menerangkan sejarah kuil di Seksyen 19 dengan begitu panjang lebar. Cuma tuan TERLUPA menjawab isu yang dibangkitkan oleh penduduk Seksyen 23 - MENGAPA PEMINDAHAN KUIL DARI SEKSYEN 19 DIPINDAHKAN KE SEKSYEN 23 YANG MANA MAJORITI PENDUDUK ADALAH YANG BERAGAMA ISLAM? Sedangkan pada bulan Mei 2009, pertanyaan penduduk mengenai isu kuil tersebut ditolak mentah-mentah dan penduduk dikatatakan mempercayai ‘khabar angin’. ADAKAH INI JAWAPAN DAN TINDAK TANDUK SEORANG PEMIMPIN ISLAM YANG DILANTIK? KINI, SUDAH TERANG LAGI BERSULUH!!!

Sekiranya UMNO/BN GAGAL menangani isu kuil di seksyen 19 yang mana majoriti penduduk adalah beragama ISLAM, tuan sebagai salah seorang pemimpin yang dilantik hendaklah cuba menyelesaikannya permasalahan penduduk tersebut. Sekiranya SATU-SATUNYA JALAN PENYELESAIAN YANG DAPAT DICAPAI ADALAH SEKADAR MEMINDAHKAN KUIL DARI SEKSYEN 19 KE SEKSYEN 23 YANG JUGA MEMPUNYAI MAJORITI PENDUDUK YANG BERAGAMA ISLAM, itu bukanlah satu penyelesaian yang bijak kerana anda cuma ‘MENCAMPAKKAN’ MASALAH KUIL DI SEKSYEN 19 KE SEKSYEN 23!!!

ADAKAH KERAJAAN PAKATAN RAKYAT PULA INGIN MENCIPTA REKOD UNTUK MEMINDAHKAN KUIL DARI SEKSYEN 19 KE SEKSYEN 23 DAN MENGULANGI IGAUAN DAN TRAUMA YANG DIHADAPI OLEH PENDUDUK ISLAM DI SEKSYEN 19 KEPADA PENDUDUK ISLAM DI SEKSYEN 23 DALAM TEMPOH TIDAK SAMPAI 2 TAHUN SEJAK MEMERINTAH SELANGOR???

ADAKAH INI PERUBAHAN YANG DIINGINKAN OLEH PENDUDUK SHAH ALAM SEWAKTU MENGUNDI PADA 2008???

SURAH AL-MAIDAH : 90
“Hai orang-orang yang beriman, sesungguhnya (meminum) khamar (arak), berjudi, (BERKORBAN UNTUK) BERHALA, mengundi nasib dengan panah adalah perbuatan keji termasuk perbuatan syaitan. Maka jauhilah perbuatan-perbuatan itu agar kamu mendapat keberuntungan.”


ehsan23

Anonymous said...

Di Malaysia, terdapat kepelbagaian agama, bangsa dan kaum, maka lahirlah pelbagai parti politik seperti UMNO, PAS, PKR, DAP dan lain-lain. Mereka semua ada yang hidup berjiran. Begitu juga di Seksyen 23. TETAPI KAMI TIDAK PERNAH MENJADIKAN PARTI POLITIK SEBAGAI ALASAN UNTUK BERMUSUH DAN KAMI DAPAT HIDUP BERJIRAN DENGAN AMAN. KEPADA AHLI-AHLI POLITIK, CUBA CELIKKAN MATA DAN BUKA MINDA MENGENAI ISU YANG SEBENARNYA! KAMI MEMBANTAH PEMINDAHAN KUIL DARI SEKSYEN 19 KE SEKSYEN 23 DI MANA MAJORITI PENDUDUK ADALAH BERAGAMA ISLAM!!!

Kepada RODZIAH ISMAIL pula saya ucapkan jutaan terima kasih kerana ketidakprihatinan puan ke atas permasalahan yang melanda penduduk ISLAM di Seksyen 23. PERTANYAAN PENDUDUK DARI BULAN MEI 2009 MENGENAI ISU KUIL TERSEBUT HANYA DIJAWAB PADA BULAN OGOS 2009. ITUPUN JAWAPAN DIBERIKAN MELALUI MEDIA CETAK. MENGAPA WAKIL RAKYAT UNTUK PENDUDUK SEKSYEN 23 PERLU ADA PEJABAT DI SEKSYEN 23 SEKIRANYA TIDAK PERNAH BERJUMPA ATAUPUN INGIN BERKHIDMAT UNTUK PENDUDUK SEKSYEN 23???

Kepada Pengerusi Penduduk, HAJI ZAINUDIN, saya berharap tuan agar dapat memimpin penduduk ISLAM Seksyen 23 bagi membela nasib kami dan anak-anak kami demi menegakkan agama ISLAM. INSYAALLAH.

SURAH AT-TAUBAH : 123
“Hai orang-orang yang beriman, perangilah orang-orang kafir yang di sekitar kamu itu, dan hendaklah mereka menemui kekerasan daripadamu, dan ketahuilah, BAHAWASANYA ALLAH BESERTA ORANG-ORANG YANG BERTAQWA.”

Kepada Pengerusi Surau, AZRUL HAKIM, saya utarakan pertanyaan-pertanyaan tersebut. Adakah wajar seseorang mengherdik dan memaki seseorang yang lebih tua dari dirinya yang sebaya dengan ayahnya sendiri? Dalam ceramah agama pula adakah wajar diceritakan perihal seorang pendakwah bebas yang ‘berkawan rapat’ dengan seorang artis wanita sebelum isteri pendakwah bebas tersebut tampil ke media massa untuk menerangkan keadaan sebenar rumahtangga mereka? Adakah wajar juga sewaktu ceramah agama, dijadikan medan untuk menjelaskan mengenai lokasi kuil sedangkan orang yang menjelaskan perkara tersebut bukanlah ahli yang layak ataupun wakil rakyat yang dilantik untuk menerangkannya kepada penduduk? Adakah wajar juga sesi ceramah agama dijadikan medan untuk memburuk-burukkan orang-orang lain yang seagama ISLAM hanya kerana berlainan pendapat atau berlainan parti politik? WALLAHU’ALAM.

AKHIR SEKALI, saya memohon maaf di atas kata-kata yang menyinggung perasaan tuan puan tetapi saya menjalankan tanggungjawab saya sebagai seorang ISLAM untuk mengingatkan di antara satu sama lain. SEGALA YANG BAIK DATANGLAH DARI ALLAH S.W.T DAN YANG BURUK DATANGNYA DARI SAYA SENDIRI.

SURAH AL-FURQAN : 17
”Dan (ingatlah) suatu hari (ketika) ALLAH menghimpunkan mereka beserta apa yang mereka sembah selain ALLAH , lalu ALLAH berkata (kepada yang disembah); ‘ Apakah kamu yang menyesatkan hamba-hambaKU itu, atau mereka sendirikah yang sesat dari jalan (yang benar)?”

AL-FATIHAH : 5-7
“Hanya kepada engkaulah kami menyembah dan hanya kepada engkaulah kami mohon pertolongan”. TUNJUKILAH KAMI JALAN YANG LURUS, (iaitu) jalan orang-orang yang telah engkau anugerahkan nikmat kepada mereka; bukan (jalan) mereka yang dimurkai (Yahudi), dan bukan (pula jalan ) mereka yang sesat (Nasrani)”.

SURAH AL-AN’AM : 162
“SESUNGGUHNYA SOLATKU, IBADATKU, HIDUPKU DAN MATIKU HANYA UNTUK ALLAH, TUHAN SEMESTA ALAM.”

AMIN YA RABBAL ALAMIN.


ehsan23

Anonymous said...

"2. Democracy is alive (especially after a demonstration)"

So some demonstrations are ok and others are not?

He he He

Anonymous said...

"Islam Tak ajar umatnya menjadi perkauman.

Islam Tak ajar umatnya mengina manusia lain (lebih2 lagi org ISLAM juga!!)

Islam TAK ajar umatnya menghina agama lain!!"

Salam,
budakbesar

------------------------------------

Kalaulah Pas dan PKR dapat amalkan perkara yang kamu sebutkan, alangkah amannya dunia ini!!

Anonymous said...

Baru dua tahu PR duduk kerusi mb negeri macam-macam kekalutan berlaku. Kalau lama lagi, bertambah banyaklah masalah yang akan timbul. Eloklah Samad pun dah memberikan petunjuk yang ini mungkin kali pertama dan kali terakhir untuk beliau berkhdmat bagi orang Shah Alam!

Shah Alam's Resident

Anonymous said...

This is a democracy country..if the majority do not want it..just accept it & respect it..be civilized..in democracy only what the majority speaks and thought counts..but here in Malaysia, the minority can bitch out so loud like uncivilized savages and yet wanted their every demand fullfilled..what kind of standard do these pendatang adopt & belong to?

if they still failed to understand the priciple of democracy, better just migrate to any 3rd world country which include their very own motherland..3rd class mentality thinking they're the 1st class yet failed to adhere to any world systems..

Go find & build the temple in your own majority hindu area...

as for the kandang babi..go build it in the majority babi eater area..

..so simple..only idiot cannot think about it rationally..

Only fucking opportunist racist in Fuckatan complicate those simplest things and the melayu pariah being the cowhead leader just endorsed it blindly..
the kepala lembu do fit their head very well...

Next time it should be implemented that all Parliment & ADUN seats should be represented by the majority race in that respective area..why need to give so much faces to these chingkies & hindulens?

The majority themselves bend the democracy rules in order to accomodate those ungrateful fucking bastards pendatangs as a shown of Malays gesture of tolerances & yet they spit, insulted and step our head in return...

this should be put to a stop pretty soon before thing gone beyond control..no i'm not talking about the minority.. i'm worried about what would happen when the majority already put to the limit and retaliated..it would be just like a tsunami wave that would drown everything opposing its passes and streams..that includes the melayu pariahs.. it just take a few neutrons to trigger a chain reaction for a nuclear explosion..
so start counting the blessing coz your days probably already start to be numbered..

p/s: what else.. Kuil Negeri, Gereja Negeri, Tokong Negeri beside Masjid Negeri? and next XXXXX Negara if PR become Fed govt..in the name of FREEDOM WITHOUT A SYSTEM..? cannot be DEMOCRACY, coz it is a SYSTEM FOR MAJORITY..these politicians are bunch of kindy drop out..too bodoh to understand these! Kepala lembu!

:D muhahaha
-anti hindraf & ultra chingkies-

Anonymous said...

Orang Islam yang banyak bercakap ni, korang setuju ke kuil tu ditempatkan kat rumah korang?

Kalau tak, tak payah banyak cakap!

Kami di seksyen 19 dah merasai keperitan dan kesusahan kuil di dlm kwsn perumahan...kami simpati pd penduduk seksyen 23...kami mahu kuil itu dipindahkan ke seksyen 22 spt yg telah dipersetujui...bukan di seksyen 23...

SUSAH SANGAT KE ORANG LUAR DARI SEKSYEN 19 & SEKSYEN 23 NAK FAHAM? LEBIH2 LAGI ORANG ISLAM!

-angah

Anonymous said...

Hi. My name is Isaac. I’m an Indian. I’m a Christian. I’m also a resident in Section 23. I would like to say a few words regarding this issue, if I may. I read somewhere that states that ‘there was no Chinese tionghua at the said dialogue ‘…I beg to differ because my friend, who is Chinese, went to the meeting and so does a few other Chinese who oppose to the relocation of the said temple.
As for me, I admire the courage of my Malay neighbours who stands up for their rights as well as the Indians who stood their ground & request to have a temple that is close to their house. If the state government would offer to build a church of my belief, I’d jump for joy as well.
However, after much deliberation, a few of the neighbours of the Buddhism faith & Christianity (including yours truly) decided not to attend the said dialogue not because we are afraid to or were intimidated as suggested by certain quarters but out of respect to both parties involved in this dispute, i.e. the Malays and the Indians of Section 23, Shah Alam. Neither the Indians nor the Malays of Section 23 requested for the said temple to be relocated here but now they are at opposing side just because the state government deemed that Section 23 is ‘a strategic place’ for the relocation and somehow managed to ‘skipped certain requirements needed’ for the said relocation. After being pressured by the residents and ngo’s and receiving a letter from the Ruler of Selangor (aired by tv3 if I’m not mistaken) only then the state government succumbs & decided to hold an open dialogue with the residents. Alas, by then, the damage was severe and as they say, ‘all hell broke loose’. No pun intended.
My personal opinion is that, this issue could have been handled differently & wisely from the beginning from the yang berhormats’ namely, yb Rodziah & yb Khalid. However, they played ‘a cat & mouse game’ with the residents particularly with the Malays (not to mention lying to the residents on more than one occasion) and ‘sweet coated’ their talk with the Indians and the head priest of the said temple.
After a few months, this issue has taken a new turn and erupted & snowballed into the infamous demonstration by the Malays due to the lack of effort from both the yang berhomats’.
My wish is that outsiders do not view this issue from the political point of view nor the religious point of view because we, the residents of Section 23 are getting along beautifully with each other regardless of gender, race or religion. To the yang berhormats, please ensure that your duty to the public is upheld above your personal interest or political agenda. Also, stop seeing every little issue as a ‘political issue’ which clearly shows how mature our politicians and their followers are. No pun intended here either.
Thank you.

Anonymous said...

FAKTA TAPAK LOKASI KUIL DI SEKSYEN 23:
1. BERDEPAN DENGAN TAMAN PERMAINAN KANAK2 YANG TELAH DIBINA SEJAK 2005 DAN TELAH DIGUNAKAN OLEH KANAK2 UTK BERMAIN. ADA BASEBALL COURT, BUAIAN, GELONGSOR KANAK2, COURT UTK SEPAK TAKRAW DAN TEMPAT DUDUK SERTA WAKAF. TAMAN PERMAINAN KANAK2 INI CUMA DI SEBERANG JALAN DARI TAPAK LOKASI KUIL.
2. BERDEKATAN DENGAN DEWAN SERBAGUNA.
3. BERDEKATAN DENGAN RUMAH2 DI JALAN BONUS DAN JALAN TARIF.
4. TERDAPAT SATU TADIKA ISLAM DI JALAN BONUS DAN SATU TASKA PROTON DI JALAN TARIF.

PERJALANAN KE LOKASI KUIL DARI SIMPANG MASUK KE SEKSYEN 23:-
1. SESEORANG PERLU MELALUI JALAN BONUS DAN TADIKA ISLAM TERSEBUT TERLETAK DI PENGHUJUNG JALAN BONUS.
2. KEMUDIAN BELOK KIRI, SESEORANG AKAN MELALUI TASKA PROTON, DEWAN SERBAGUNA, TAPAK PERMAINAN KANAK2 SEBELUM SAMPAI KE LOKASI KUIL.
SILA DATANG SENDIRI DAN TENGOK DI MANA SEBENARNYA TAPAK LOKASI KUIL TU.
FAKTA TAMBAHAN :
1. AGAMA HINDU MENGAMALKAN AMALAN PEMUJAAN.
TUAN PUAN SANGGUP KE TENGOK ANAK2 ORANG MELAYU ISLAM DISAMPUK DAN DIRASUK SERTA DISERANG HISTERIA SETELAH BERMAIN DI TAMAN PERMAINAN KANAK2 TERSEBUT YANG BERDEPAN DENGAN KUIL TERSEBUT???!!! ITU BELUM TERMASUK BAYI2 ORANG MELAYU ISLAM YANG DIJAGA DI TADIKA ISLAM DAN DI TASKA PROTON. ITU JUGA BELUM TERMASUK ANAK2 JIRAN KAMI YANG TINGGAL DI JALAN BONUS DAN JALAN TARIF!!!
LIHAT SAJA SEKOLAH AGAMA YANG BERSEBELAHAN DENGAN KUIL DI KLANG, RAMAI PELAJAR KENA HISTERIA. ITU SEKOLAH. HABIS SEKOLAH, BOLEH BALIK RUMAH.
KALAU KENA SAMPUK DAN DIRASUK SERTA DISERANG HISTERIA DI DALAM KWS PERUMAHAN YANG DIDIAMI SENDIRI, BUDAK2 NI NAK PERGI KE MANA? BALIK KE RUMAH RODZIAH ATAU KHALID SAMAD???
2. SEJARAH PEMBINAAN KUIL, ‘DARI SEKECIL2 BUSUT BOLEH ‘HIDUP’ MENJADI SEBESAR2 MINI MARKET JIKA TIDAK DIBENDUNG. BILA DAH LEBIH BESAR DARI RUMAH TERES, TAK PAYAH NAK BANYAK CAKAP. MENYESAL PUN DAH TAK GUNA!!!
3. AKAN BERLAKU MASALAH ‘PARKING’ TERUTAMA PADA WAKTU KERAMAIAN DAN PERAYAAN. BILA TIADA PARKING KOSONG, TUAN PUAN FIKIR DIORANG NAK PARKING KAT MANA SEPANJANG2 JALAN DARI JALAN BONUS DAN JALAN TARIF TU? DEPAN RUMAH RODZIAH? DEPAN RUMAH KHALID SAMAD? SAMBUTAN PERAYAAN YANG DIADAKAN PULA BERMULA DARI LEWAT PETANG HINGGA LEWAT TENGAH MALAM!!! CONTOH TERDEKAT PERGI TENGOK SENDIRI DI SEKSYEN 19 & SEKSYEN 25. NAK JAUH SIKIT, PERGI KE TAMAN GREENWOOD ATAU TAMAN BOLTON DI BATU CAVES SAMPAI BOLEH NAMPAK GOLDEN STATUE TU DARI JAUH, BELUM PERGI DEKAT LAGI.
4. KAMI SUDAH LAMA BERSABAR DENGAN PERANGAI INDIA MABUK DARI SEKSYEN 25 YG DTG MEMBELI MINUMAN KERAS DI 99 SPEEDMART DI SEKSYEN 23. MINUM DAN MABUK SATU HAL. SATU HAL LAGI, BOTOL2 ARAK TU DICAMPAKKAN DAN DIBIARKAN BERSEPAH2 DI TENGAH JALANRAYA. SURAT2 BANTAHAN DAH BANYAK DIHANTAR TAPI HABUK TAK DILAYAN OLEH PARA PEMIMPIN ISLAM!!!SEKARANG NI PUN INDIA2 MABUK TU MELEPAK2 DAN BARING2 DI WAKAF DI TAMAN PERMAINAN. ADA KE BUDAK YANG NAK BERMAIN DI TAMAN PERMAINAN TU KALAU ADA INDIA2 MABUK DI SITU???
KALAU KUIL TU DIBINA DI SEKSYEN 23 YANG BEREPAN DENGAN TAMAN PERMAINAN KANAK, TUAN PUAN FIKIR APA AKAN JADI???
AKHIR SEKALI, KEPADA YG SUKA MENGHENTAM PENDUDUK SEKSYEN 23, SILALAH OFFER KAT KHALID SAMAD, RODZIAH & TOKEY KUIL SUPAYA KUIL DI SEKSYEN 19 DIPINDAHKAN KE KWS PERUMAHAN RUMAH TUAN PUAN SUPAYA KAMI DAPAT HIDUP DENGAN AMAN DAMAI. TERIMA KASIH.
-ehsan

Burung Gagak said...

salam Bro,
Semua ni terjadi akibat dari tindakan membabi buta MB Gagap dari PKR tu.Sila bc ulasan dr wakil Kulim/Bandar Baharu...
http://zul4kulim.blogspot.com/2009/09/albaqarah-alahai-sang-lembu.html

Anonymous said...

To the Muslims who loves to sing the ‘toleransi song’, WOULD you be singing the same ‘toleransi song’ should the govt decides to relocate the said temple or any other worshipping place for that matter to your residential area or WOULD YOU BE SINGING A DIFFERENT TUNE ALTOGETHER???

Maaf Zahir Batin. Semoga kita mendapat hidayah & perlindungan dari ALLAH YANG MAHA ESA. INSYAALLAH. Selamat Hari Raya Aidil Fitri.

-ehsan

Anonymous said...

Syuhada peace 23

Maafkan kami…Maafkan kami…Ma_afkan kami. Ma_afkan kami…Peace to all. Selamat Menyambut Aidil Fitri & Maaf Zahir Batin.

Anonymous said...

To the Muslims who loves to sing the ‘toleransi song’, WOULD you be singing the same ‘toleransi song’ should the govt decides to relocate the said temple or any other worshipping place for that matter to your residential area or WOULD YOU BE SINGING A DIFFERENT TUNE ALTOGETHER???

Maaf Zahir Batin. Semoga kita mendapat hidayah & perlindungan dari ALLAH YANG MAHA ESA. INSYAALLAH. Selamat Hari Raya Aidil Fitri.
-ehsan

Anonymous said...

Hi. I’m Isaac. My friends kept asking me about the site for the temple in my housing area (Section 23) & I’ve told them. They came. They saw. They make their own assessment. Now, I’d like to make an open invitation to all Malaysians regardless of religion, political party or race to come here and have a look at the location that was earlier approved by the Exco’s. The direction is very simple. Upon entering Section 23, you will see the electrical shop, Seng Heng on your right; you turn left into Jalan Bonus. At the end of Jalan Bonus, there’s a t-junction & you make another left turn. You won’t miss it. The trees of the said location were recently cut down by pkns after the ‘fiasco’ at mbsa. Maybe then, others will understand why the Malays and Hindus of Section 23 acted the way they did.
Lastly, I’d like to wish all my Muslim friends a merry raya & have a wonderful holiday ahead. May we continue to live in peace & harmony. Amen.