tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post8145876697123849765..comments2024-03-17T15:10:12.273+08:00Comments on rocky's bru: 3-in-1 allah, etc., Bloggers against BlasphemiesRockybruhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08187242806213153913noreply@blogger.comBlogger99125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-81003184278366315682010-07-16T12:51:04.234+08:002010-07-16T12:51:04.234+08:00testing testing 1234testing testing 1234pelajar iptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00258953927058633997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-29984428380950880962010-07-16T12:49:08.219+08:002010-07-16T12:49:08.219+08:00korang semua x payah caci caci sesama sendiri.biar...korang semua x payah caci caci sesama sendiri.biar tuhan..... opppps silap!!! ALLAH shj yg memberi balasan kpd mereka yg ingkar n kufurpelajar iptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00258953927058633997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-84994992299024320842010-02-08T15:24:19.727+08:002010-02-08T15:24:19.727+08:00Masih juga ada orang bodoh yang ingat yang kat syu...Masih juga ada orang bodoh yang ingat yang kat syurga ada racism - yang muslim je boleh masuk, yang lain akan masuk neraka. Ni sembayang kat Tuhan ke Syaitan?<br /><br />Pakai la kepala hotak lu orang sikit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-11270804703628955112010-01-08T18:51:44.267+08:002010-01-08T18:51:44.267+08:00Anon 6:41 PM
Here are a few morsels for your peab...Anon 6:41 PM<br /><br />Here are a few morsels for your peabrained intellect to chew on:<br /><br />- among the members of President SBY's Cabinet are:<br /><br />Transportation Minister - Freddy Numberi (Christian)<br />State Minister for Administrative Reform - Evert Ernest Mangindaan (Christian)<br />Trade Minister - Mari Pangestu (Chinese/Christian)<br /><br />They appear to have been able to retain their Christian names, in spite of being appointed to the Cabinet.<br /><br />And let's not forget Indonesia's Defence Minister - Purnomo Yusgiantoro - who has an Indonesian name, is Javanese AND a Catholic.<br /><br />Or Ms Karen Agustiawan who is the President Director & CEO of Pertamina.skilgannon1066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-35328239308067778842010-01-08T18:15:09.889+08:002010-01-08T18:15:09.889+08:00Anon 6:41 PM
Don't bulls**t, ok? I have trave...Anon 6:41 PM<br /><br />Don't bulls**t, ok? I have travelled frequently to Jakarta and have seen (and heard) Indonesian Chinese there conversing freely in Mandarin, Hokkien and Cantonese. And in English too.<br /><br />And you wanna reply to the point I made about the late Benny Moerdani - that an Indonesian Catholic could become Commander-in-Chief of the Indonesian Armed Forces? While retaining his Christian name!<br /><br />Seems to me also that Benny Moerdani's father was a good example of a tolerant Muslim. How else would you explain the fact that Benny Moerdani was brought up in the Catholic faith and remained a Catholic until his death?skilgannon1066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-87401535554049481482010-01-08T15:33:00.965+08:002010-01-08T15:33:00.965+08:00jam ni la pembesar pembesar MELAYU bersuara.
Pende...jam ni la pembesar pembesar MELAYU bersuara.<br />Pendekar pendekar mengorak langkah!<br />jang dok diam.........<br />tak....pa.....lah........<br />menyesal nanti.................<br /><br />ah chongAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-62462109673422432002010-01-07T18:48:39.229+08:002010-01-07T18:48:39.229+08:00some non-christians and non-muslime want to use th...some non-christians and non-muslime want to use the Sabah and Sarawak case to justify the use of 'Allah' in east Malaysia<br /><br />when there is no such occurrence in west Malaysia<br /><br />so clearly it has nothing to do with language or religion<br /><br />can the catholics justify their rejection of the word TUHAN - which is the ACCURATE translation in Bahasa Melayu??<br /><br />see, how do you expect the Malay Muslims to have trust in the christians??<br /><br />i suggest they all mass convert to ISLAM and you can freely use ALLAH every minute every day every yearAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-62360667480179262712010-01-07T18:41:42.245+08:002010-01-07T18:41:42.245+08:00skilgannon1066 should also understand that the chi...skilgannon1066 should also understand that the chinese assimilated into the majority lifestyle so much so that they can't even speak a word of hokien or cantonese or even mandarin<br /><br />heh hehAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-39317975434659636662010-01-07T16:42:38.174+08:002010-01-07T16:42:38.174+08:00Anon 7:09 PM
I just wanted to add - in your intel...Anon 7:09 PM<br /><br />I just wanted to add - in your intellectual meanderings, have you come across a certain Leonardus Benjamin Moerdani (aka Benny Moerdani)?<br /><br />To refresh what's left of your memory, the late Benny Moerdani, a prominent Indonesian Catholic, was:<br /><br />- ABRI Commander-in-Chief 1983-88<br /><br />- was appointed Indonesian Minister of Defence and Security by the then President Suharto.<br /><br />To quote from the Wikipedia entry on him:<br /><br />"Benny Moerdani was born on 2 October 1932 at Cepu, Central Java to R.G. Moerdani Sosrodirjo, a railway worker and his Indo Eurasian wife Rochmaria Jeane, who was half German. Moerdani was the 3rd out of 11 children. Although a Muslim, Moerdani Sosrodirjo tolerated his wife's and in their turn, his children's Catholic faith..."<br /><br />Shouldn't be that difficult to understand, yes?skilgannon1066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-82779905314805040532010-01-07T16:14:49.254+08:002010-01-07T16:14:49.254+08:00Anon 7:09 PM
Really, ah?
Can you point out to me...Anon 7:09 PM<br /><br />Really, ah?<br /><br />Can you point out to me the relevant sections of the Indonesian Constitution or the relevant Indonesian laws that mandate this?<br /><br />And care to tell us just why Indonesians are calling for the late Gus Dur to be named a national hero of Indonesia?skilgannon1066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-14750250346800182632010-01-06T19:09:00.573+08:002010-01-06T19:09:00.573+08:00Skilgannon,
Fan of Indonesia are you?
Me too. Bu...Skilgannon,<br /><br />Fan of Indonesia are you?<br /><br />Me too. But for different reason. There, they force every one to have a malay name.<br /><br />Have you chosen yours yet?<br /><br />Sue Harr ToeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-78968650128979498602010-01-05T22:07:53.928+08:002010-01-05T22:07:53.928+08:00'will confuse the muslim'
but the word &#...'will confuse the muslim'<br /><br />but the word 'ALLAH' has been used for years in East malaysia ...<br /><br />i (along with thousands of other ppl) studies few chapters of ISLAM in my sejarah in the secondary school, i didn't get confuse!!<br /><br />you know what confuse the Muslims <br /><br />- is when ppl denote themself in a busy market in the name of ISLAM<br />- when some muslims shout for blood of other race / religion in the name of ISLAM<br />- when religious figures mix and shoke hands with dirty politicians<br /><br />there are so many things that some muslims do that go against the teaching of Islam<br /><br />these are the things that demotivate the younger generation from associating themself to ISLAM.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17757169082909549721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-8587705080186933662010-01-05T21:23:26.885+08:002010-01-05T21:23:26.885+08:00Rocky,
Marina ... Islam liberal!!! shut the duck ...Rocky,<br /><br />Marina ... Islam liberal!!! shut the duck up.<br /><br />She is just a spoil ...tch! She even yea to anwar alike!<br /><br />Shezzzz.. waht a BILF !!pakteh adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15052066518253539008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-54244813437570149212010-01-05T21:15:36.574+08:002010-01-05T21:15:36.574+08:00Ah yes, pity the East Malaysians Xtians who after ...Ah yes, pity the East Malaysians Xtians who after hundreds of years of using the word 'Allah', are now being dictated by a bunch of Westies what word to use.<br /><br /><br />Font FuturaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-44229587087425300202010-01-05T19:39:15.086+08:002010-01-05T19:39:15.086+08:00skilgannon1066,
you dont know your own Rukunegara...skilgannon1066,<br /><br />you dont know your own Rukunegara?<br /><br />* KEPERCAYAAN KEPADA TUHAN<br />* KESETIAAN KEPADA RAJA DAN NEGARA<br />* KELUHURAN PERLEMBAGAAN<br />* KEDAULATAN UNDANG-UNDANG<br />* KESOPANAN DAN KESUSILAANjerongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-86118681921335487642010-01-05T18:28:36.627+08:002010-01-05T18:28:36.627+08:00Alexandra,
Thanks for the respond. I really under...Alexandra,<br /><br />Thanks for the respond. I really understand how different it is in West Malaysia as compare to in Sabah/Sarawak. My explanation in BM merely a respond to some of the comments above that seems to be ignorant to the situation in Sabah/Sarawak pertaining to the usage of the word. <br /><br />You have put it rightly that BM is widely used in churches in these states apart from their native language, Kadazan or Iban. If you go to any churches around KK that conduct its sunday mass in 3 languages (Chinese, English and BM), BM session is the most pack with people. The usage of the word in BM section of Herald or other Christian paper like Catholic Sabah of course is to cater Christian readers in these churches. Which like I said previously used Allah widely in their faith like myself.<br /><br />AlexAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-40896254893320679352010-01-05T17:03:28.296+08:002010-01-05T17:03:28.296+08:00I can take views and opinions regarding the issue ...I can take views and opinions regarding the issue from both the muslim and christian quarters but what I can't appreciate are the snide and blasphemous comments from the buddhists and hindus who themselves can't even decide which god to pray to today let alone tomorrow due to the numerous gods that they have. I also don't particularly care what the atheists have to say. After reading comments from allen ng and bunnies and people like them, I'm pretty much fed up.<br />So can i suggest to these batu apis to shut up and mind your own religion? <br /><br />PeevedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-81182099187887205182010-01-05T16:41:02.108+08:002010-01-05T16:41:02.108+08:00Alex (anon@12:45PM),
that is true.
but please k...Alex (anon@12:45PM),<br /><br />that is true. <br /><br />but please know that the situation in sabah/sarawak is an exception for the very reason you have stated.<br />bahasa melayu is widely used in these two states. and culturally, the use of BM and Allah in sunday classes is a norm there. <br /><br />so, of course it has nver been an issue and the federal govt, as well as the rest of malaysia, has accepted this peculiar situation.<br /><br />it is different in semenanjung, sunday classes have never been taught in BM. sermons in churches never in BM.<br />in fact, if you want to hold your sermons and sunday classes in BM and use the word "Allah" in semenanjung, go ahead.<br /><br />but surely you can understand the muslims feeling uncomfortable, to put it mildly, when you insist on using "Allah" in place of "god" in christian publications.<br /><br />surely you can understand why....alexandranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-49821255540310487822010-01-05T15:03:33.194+08:002010-01-05T15:03:33.194+08:00You are a blasphemer of God, Rocky! You know ur bl...You are a blasphemer of God, Rocky! You know ur blog is going to churn some sensitive stupid comments and you just let it go! The photo itself is a blaspheming against God! Repent or else! Sin is everywhere but curse is the one cause sins to flow! - Allah worshipper!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-48288360496466351522010-01-05T13:40:58.180+08:002010-01-05T13:40:58.180+08:00According to some source, the culprit is Abdullah ...According to some source, the culprit is Abdullah Munsyi. He is the one who translate 'God' as 'Allah' when ask by some priests, and those priests use the translation since then. Now the Ibans should know that the translation is WRONG and must make correction !Mael Hashimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12112000937690547018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-48460010752398869682010-01-05T13:40:01.047+08:002010-01-05T13:40:01.047+08:00Part A
Pancasila - the Indonesian state doctrine ...Part A<br /><br />Pancasila - the Indonesian state doctrine or state philosophy - has 5 principles.<br /><br />The 1st principle: Belief in the One And Only God (in Bahasa Indonesia: "Ketuhanan Yang Maha Esa")<br /><br />The 2nd principle: Just and civilised humanity ("Kemanusiaan Yang Adil dan Beradab")<br /><br />The 5th principle: Social justice for the whole people of Indonesia ("Keadilan sosial bagi seluruh Rakyat Indonesia").<br /><br />The Pancasila focuses on "Tuhan" as God. The foundations of a just and civilised humanity and social justice for all Indonesians are based on a shared belief in the One And Only God.<br /><br />Beautifully simple and direct. No obfuscations and theological meanderings.<br /><br />But, then, that is Indonesia and this is Malaysia. Tak sama, ya?skilgannon1066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-32939989762973133862010-01-05T13:36:46.604+08:002010-01-05T13:36:46.604+08:00Some stupid people use Wikipedia to get a meaning ...Some stupid people use Wikipedia to get a meaning of 'Allah'... If you want to know 'Allah', read Quran and hadith.. these are the authentic source.Mael Hashimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12112000937690547018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-59594857511835336402010-01-05T13:25:55.922+08:002010-01-05T13:25:55.922+08:00Is is true that 'Allah' is not a copyright...Is is true that 'Allah' is not a copyright ? Under the copyright Act, it is not necessary that a word need to be patented or registered in order to qualify it as a copyright ! A distinct and substancial use is sufficient to make a word a copyright. Muslims clearly have the copyright of the word Allah. I hope any copyright lawyer can further clarify on this !Mael Hashimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12112000937690547018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-25590819803564792762010-01-05T13:14:52.886+08:002010-01-05T13:14:52.886+08:00There is only ONE God, and many religions admit th...There is only ONE God, and many religions admit that, but do each religion recognise that God by their true attributes so that what they know about the characteristics of the God are actually and truely describe the God ? If that ONE true God is described differently by different religion, then each must have different name to suit their description. 'Allah' is used by muslims and when Allah is mentioned, specific attributes of the God is attached to it.Mael Hashimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12112000937690547018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-9592054337031021362010-01-05T13:13:33.446+08:002010-01-05T13:13:33.446+08:00Aisey these Pendatangs, give them a bit they ask f...Aisey these Pendatangs, give them a bit they ask for more.<br />BTW, you confident pendatangs won't be less Malaysian by how people call you so why worry.<br /><br />Keling and Apek are also good words. These names have been used before in parts of Tanah MElayu,Malaya and Malaysia and we should not stop the right of fellow MAlaysian citizens to discontinue using these.<br />Also there is no proof that this will lead to civil unrest.<br /><br />I also have a pet bitch which I call MarinaM Koteng.<br />My pet likes it and only insecure Marina's in these world will feel offended.<br /><br />ChwylathurpeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com