tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post7667179522903540506..comments2024-03-17T15:10:12.273+08:00Comments on rocky's bru: Raya CinaRockybruhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08187242806213153913noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-52152577242224605382010-02-19T17:40:42.205+08:002010-02-19T17:40:42.205+08:00Thanks Rocky for hiring us a grammar and spelling ...Thanks Rocky for hiring us a grammar and spelling checker. If it is not too costly, could bring in a English comprehension checker as well?<br /><br />I think we need it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-86608211555730281182010-02-18T20:42:30.477+08:002010-02-18T20:42:30.477+08:00someone wrote, ..."Didn’t I wrote (sic) "...someone wrote, ..."<i>Didn’t I wrote (<b>sic</b>) "Both China and Taiwan adopted Mandarin to be their official language?" If you have problem (<b>sic</b>) comprehending ENGLISH, get a tuition teacher.</i>"...<br /><br />the truth of the matter is, there's no problem in my comprehension of the language, but, the <b>problem</b> lies with the erroneous way you write them.<br /><br /><b>LOL</b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-9716340171838822732010-02-18T12:24:21.579+08:002010-02-18T12:24:21.579+08:00“so, if all are dialects, what was the point?”
Di...“so, if all are dialects, what was the point?”<br /><br />Didn’t I wrote "Both China and Taiwan adopted Mandarin to be their official language?" If you have problem comprehending ENGLISH, get a tuition teacher. <br /><br />“my advice to Rhan is to learn to write better English, cause your grammar/spelling suck... then go read some more... then come back here.<br />but, by then, hopefully you'd realize the misinformation and needn't bother coming back.<br />you see, you'll always be misinformed if you can't read/write well in the language of your choice.”<br /><br />So you do not have any more facts and information to enhance your view point, and now resort to trick commenting my English and grammar? What a waste of bandwidth cause (because / cuz) I first thought encountering one caliber ANON that have some understanding of the topic he is talking about. Hey, remain as ANON la, don’t bring shame to your friends and family.<br /><br />“there are times when silence is golden.”<br /><br />Hahahahahahahahahaha. I agree.<br /><br />Rhan<br /><br /><br />PS/ misinformation and lie?<br />I am referring to our “Smart Anon” comment on CANTONESE-ONLY speaker and later changed the subject to whether a mandarin-only speaker can speak English and pretend he never asks the first question. First pray tell what this “Smart Anon” English word “ONLY” mean? Otherwise the exchanged become meaningless if he himself is clueless on the subject he is talking about. <br /><br />Cantonese is dialect of China southern province such as Guangzhou. It is the official language for Hong Kong and Macau. As migration to overseas in the past is mainly from Guangzhou and Fujian, therefore many overseas Chinese is Cantonese, this include SEA, Northern America and UK.<br /> <br />As we are talking today in 2010 (I hope we don’t divert it to Mao ZeDong and Qin ShiHuang era or some same old grandmother story), is that wrong to presume most overseas Cantonese can speak a little English or Mandarin? In Malaysia, most Cantonese could speak Mandarin due to government policy in education that allow the learning of Chinese (language), even the short-sighted Lee Kuan Yew that closed down Nanyang University promote the speaking of Mandarin. With the opening up of China economy, more and more Chinese are learning Mandarin to the extent that some can’t speak their original dialect. In China, perhaps there is 30% to 40% Chinese that could not understand/speak Mandarin but most of them are reside at the internal part and not the coastal area like Guangzhou. Do I need to elaborate HK and Macau that adopt bi-language education system? So may I know which part I am being misinformed when I say most Cantonese speak a few other languages? <br /><br />To answer “Smart Anon” “question does mandarin-(only) speaker speak English”, I would says the number in term of percentage is far less compare to Cantonese due to Mandarin is both the officer language and Guanhua, it is the most common among the many dialect for the past many century. As happen in many other major sizeable languages like English, German, French and Arabic, the native speakers tend not to learn other language apart from their own as their native language is sufficient enough to communicate and to absorb knowledge, generally speaking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-87140881977224823912010-02-17T18:00:10.060+08:002010-02-17T18:00:10.060+08:00somebody is tripping over him/herself when trying ...somebody is tripping over him/herself when trying to defend the "undefendable."<br /><br />the <b>confused</b> Rhan wrote, "...<i>You haven’t hears <b>(sic)</b>the term dialect? Actually Mandarin is also a northern dialect...</i>"<br /><br />so, if all are dialects, what was the point?<br /><br />and, the irony of it all is when the <b>confused</b> Rhan wrote, ... "<i>I am also curious to know which part of my writing suggested that I were <b>(sic)</b> misinformed and lied.</i>"...<br /><br />my advice to Rhan is to learn to write better English, cause your grammar/spelling suck... then go read some more... then come back here.<br /><br />but, by then, hopefully you'd realize the <b>mis</b>information and needn't bother coming back.<br /><br />you see, you'll always be <b>mis</b>informed if you can't read/write well in the language of your choice.<br /><br />there are times when silence is golden.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-82920778816756265742010-02-17T10:32:38.245+08:002010-02-17T10:32:38.245+08:00“Because if a Malaysian Chinese cannot speak or wr...“Because if a Malaysian Chinese cannot speak or write in Mandarin, they are definitely not educated (according to lia standards)or”<br /><br />There are many Chinese who cannot speak and write Mandarin but with extremely fantastic education. The best that happen in Malaysia is that everyone is given choice/rights to pick what suit them. Hence “lia standard” doesn’t apply to Chinese in general, unless you are referring not to Chinese? Who knows?<br /><br />“Because those who don't speak or write in Mandarin at all are mostly those who attended SK schools, able to speak fluent BM and BI, so they vely jealous one. Thats why they don't want to aloso fliend fliend one.”<br /><br />SK school is merely a school open for all, why does anyone get jealous? Most people will only get jealous if they are not allowed to enter certain school that reserved for the unusual. Forgive my ignorant, may I know is there any such school exists in Malaysia? <br /><br />“The contractor who did up my shop for 2months, speaks fluent BM/BI/Tamil and few Chinese dialects. <br />None of the neighbours here approached him or spoke to him all those 2months!!..”<br /><br />Perhaps this contractor looked like one thief and robber? Don’t we know most of the gigantic thief and robber today speaks fluent English with professional outlook, speak a little dialect just to trick the gullible, this happen all the time during election. Seem like your neighbors were cheated too many times and decide to ignore all this lowlife. <br /><br />RhanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-12600797023672743322010-02-16T22:56:15.405+08:002010-02-16T22:56:15.405+08:00“so, in the Malaysia context, Cantonese, Hokkien, ...“so, in the Malaysia context, Cantonese, Hokkien, Hakka, etc, are NOT Chinese languages?” <br />You haven’t hears the term dialect? Actually Mandarin is also a northern dialect. Both China and Taiwan adopted Mandarin to be their official language, hence term like Putonghua and GuoYu. While in Malaysia, we normally refer to Mandarin as Chinese (language), this is why I say the advertisement “Chinese” is to mean Chinese language. We may blame this on precision level of language use, but to conclude that it is racism is to me over “sensitive”? Don’t you agree?<br /><br />“obviously this is a misinformation!<br />in simple words... a biiig red lie.<br />you should get out more, dude.<br />anyway, what about the Mandarin-only speakers... do they speak English as well?”<br />So can you first tell us how one Mandarin-only speaker communicates with one Cantonese-only speakers? I am also curious to know which part of my writing suggested that I were misinformed and lied.<br /><br />“give it a rest... you lost this argument.” <br />I am here looking forward some rational debate, can you debate and put in your arguments base on fact instead of being judgmental on who is winner. I don’t mind losing as long as your have your fact well presented. <br /><br />“p/s sensitive, aren't you?”<br />I think you are, I am merely tying to correct some untruth and misinform.<br /><br />RhanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-41693487146186878002010-02-16T17:14:50.071+08:002010-02-16T17:14:50.071+08:00someone wrote, ..."In the Malaysia(sic) conte...someone wrote, ..."<i>In the Malaysia</i>(sic)<i> context, Chinese language is HuaYu</i>"...<br /><br />so, <i>in the Malaysia context</i>, Cantonese, Hokkien, Hakka, etc, are <b>NOT</b> Chinese languages?<br /><br />someone also wrote, ...<i>"For your information, there are very less </i>(sic)<i> Cantonese-only speaker in the world nowadays, most of them can speak at least one or two additional language, either English or Putonghua</i>"...<br /><br />obviously this is a <b>mis</b>information!<br /><br />in simple words... a <b>biiig</b> red lie.<br /><br />you should get out more, dude.<br /><br />anyway, what about the Mandarin-only speakers... do they speak English as well?<br /><br />give it a rest... you lost this argument.<br /><br />p/s sensitive, aren't you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-79431518509178118152010-02-16T10:01:27.026+08:002010-02-16T10:01:27.026+08:00Oh, finally you didn’t want to rest your case?
“W...Oh, finally you didn’t want to rest your case? <br />“What is Chinese language” – In the Malaysia context, Chinese language is HuaYu (华语或华文). Term like Mandarin, Putonghua is used mainly in Mainland China and the so-called Greater China.<br /><br />“p/s when a Mandarin-only speaker meets up with a Cantonese-only speaker... how will they communicate with one another?”<br />How will a Malay-only speaker meets up with a English-only speaker communicate with one another? Gesture language I guess? For your information, there are very less Cantonese-only speaker in the world nowadays, most of them can speak at least one or two additional language, either English or Putonghua. Therefore to answer your question, most probably they will communicate in Putonghua, if you do understand what the term Putonghua mean in the first place.<br /><br />Though you raise some “interesting” question, and resort to name calling, that still doesn’t make you sound less shallow.<br /><br />RhanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-9750780790320701722010-02-16T08:37:38.666+08:002010-02-16T08:37:38.666+08:00double duh!
p/s when a Mandarin-only speaker meet...double duh!<br /><br />p/s when a Mandarin-only speaker meets up with a Cantonese-only speaker... how will they communicate with one another?<br /><br />My answer from my daily observations. <br /><br />They dont speak to one another, because they don't fliend fliend one, aloso vely suspicious of one another!<br /><br />Why? <br />Because if a Malaysian Chinese cannot speak or write in Mandarin, they are definitely not educated (according to lia standards)or<br /><br />Because those who don't speak or write in Mandarin at all are mostly those who attended SK schools, able to speak fluent BM and BI, so they vely jealous one. Thats why they don't want to aloso fliend fliend one.<br /><br />The contractor who did up my shop for 2months, speaks fluent BM/BI/Tamil and few Chinese dialects. <br /><br />None of the neighbours here approached him or spoke to him all those 2months!!..<br /><br />PERWIRAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-57198324985742148162010-02-16T00:55:46.542+08:002010-02-16T00:55:46.542+08:00so, smart-ass, answer this question...
what is Ch...so, smart-ass, answer this question...<br /><br /><b>what is Chinese language</b>?<br /><br />duh!<br /><br />p/s when a Mandarin-only speaker meets up with a Cantonese-only speaker... how will they communicate with one another?<br /><br />double duh!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-30533599233043225422010-02-15T10:45:21.869+08:002010-02-15T10:45:21.869+08:00Anon 4.13pm
“sorry to disagree with you Rocky... ...Anon 4.13pm<br /><br />“sorry to disagree with you Rocky... but Chinese is NOT a language.”<br />Are you sure? Why don’t you “bing” and “google” the term Chinese and see what come out? Shall we every time says Chinese language? In the Malaysia context, term like Malay and Chinese usage is quite distinctive while confusing. <br /><br />“so, if a company advertises something like, "...Excellent command of spoken and written English and Chinese..."<br />what does this imply?<br />racism. period.”<br />You mean the implied here is that the “Chinese” mean Chinese the race and not the language? What about English? Doss it imply something else?<br /><br />“so, if the advert isn't racism, albeit cloaked in propriety to fool idiots who can't differentiate between language and ethnicity, then I rest my case.”<br />I will not says you are a fool idiot but you knowledge toward language and ethnicity in certain context is shallow. You should rest your case.<br /><br />RhanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-31512775698613935282010-02-15T01:29:22.413+08:002010-02-15T01:29:22.413+08:00from msiaKini:
by maximus - Yesterday
Malaysia wi...from msiaKini:<br />by maximus - Yesterday<br /><br />Malaysia will be a developed nation in 2020 and will probably be invited to join the OECD shortly afterwards. We will heve a growth rate of 8 % annually until 2020, making us the second fastest economy in Asia after China. <br /><br />We have a world class education system especially after the recent spate of reforms, thus ensuing that we have a sufficient pool of highly skilled labour. The brain drain of 300,000 last year is good riddance to unpatriotic traitors thus leaving behind a pool of loyal Malaysians who will work their butt off to ensure the success of our nation..<br /><br /> Bandar Iskandar will become the Asian hub of education, R & D and services. We will become the global hub of halal products and Islamic finance, attraction billions of Arab funds.BN will win a landslide victory in the next election, ensuring political stability, and increasing our PERC rankings.<br /><br />.........................<br />CONG XI FAI CAI.<br /><br />hmmmmmm what you think ah? my fellow detractors. <br /><br />I think it is possible. Afterall our DPM just taught risk management 101 to those learned people in Hong Kong. <br /><br />Also we constantly sent our best of the best to OECD countries to help them in the area of Education and commerce so they can catch up with us - MALAYSIA.<br /><br />Malaysia - truly unbelivable good. We will be the Premier country in ASIA. MALAYSIA BOLIH one. 1MALAYSIA pon bolih. <br /><br />A BolihPatriot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-75376748149909264912010-02-15T00:18:38.689+08:002010-02-15T00:18:38.689+08:00Now what can we make of the numerous chinatowns al...Now what can we make of the numerous chinatowns all over the world set up by the overseas chinese??<br /><br />That they are very exclusive - a nice term for clannish leanings or simply put racist<br /><br />They live close to their own kind, heavily reluctant to integrate even with the host citizens<br /><br />================<br /><br />exclusive konon here.<br />Ohh another Anon Jaguh Kampung.<br />Don't la be like saiful and speak thru your arse.<br /><br />I don't know which Cinatown you are referring to - mainbe the one in guangzhou. lol.<br /><br />Here in NewYork and Buffalo, the martial art studios are frequented by many mat sallehs and blacks. <br /><br />Just had lion dances downtown today - even many of the lion dancers are from the wushu studios are whites. <br /><br />We know how to mix with them & they know how to mix with us. We are very forward looking people who can mix with anybody any race any where in the world. <br /><br />>They live close to their own kind, heavily reluctant to integrate even with the host citizens<<br /><br />RUBBISH. our children attends all the top ivy league universities. The top classes and law and medicine and engineering faculties in New York are all chinese, koreans, indians. Our neighborhood in the small town of Newport is mostly whites. <br /><br />We don't stay inside a shell and wait for falling durians. <br /><br />Bruce Lee<br />Newport.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-50277228533582349382010-02-14T20:54:53.330+08:002010-02-14T20:54:53.330+08:00Strange the Chinese community I live with.. Time C...Strange the Chinese community I live with.. Time CNY, semua senyap2... hilang holiday keHongkong, Australia, Taiwan, Mainland China n Singapore.. 10HARI PINTU KEDAI/RUMAH TUTUP RAPAT...<br /><br />For the last 15years, never once see them hold any open houses..<br /><br />Whereas we Malays around this community, HRaya.. siap jemput dengan mulut, invite them all to our open houses.. ramai datang..<br /><br />No wonder time elections, never see them go out to vote, always tembak me their centres are this place and that place.. <br /><br />hmmmm ramainya APEK2 dalam diam menyamar kaw kaw they are Malaysians citizens agaknya, tapi kalo pasai hentam Kerajaan, mulut berbuih2 sampai bibir terlondeh2...<br /><br />PERWIRAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-46580121497830843502010-02-14T20:07:51.049+08:002010-02-14T20:07:51.049+08:00coach dont hire? good thing i buy coach by postal ...coach dont hire? good thing i buy coach by postal fr US . to hell then if they dont hire my mothers race !<br />Please tell me more of these company so I can avoid spending money on them pleaseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-69380626463077433222010-02-14T18:54:53.004+08:002010-02-14T18:54:53.004+08:00Now what can we make of the numerous chinatowns al...Now what can we make of the numerous chinatowns all over the world set up by the overseas chinese??<br /><br />That they are very exclusive - a nice term for clannish leanings or simply put racist<br /><br />They live close to their own kind, heavily reluctant to integrate even with the host citizensAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1777488301473175972010-02-14T18:36:56.403+08:002010-02-14T18:36:56.403+08:00Anon 3:11
Comment is way out of order. You are ups...Anon 3:11<br />Comment is way out of order. You are upsetting a lot of people. I agree with Anon 4:13, knowledge is power.Wenger J. Khairyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18074977147521188723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-8810543783424909152010-02-14T16:13:21.926+08:002010-02-14T16:13:21.926+08:00sorry to disagree with you Rocky... but Chinese is...sorry to disagree with you Rocky... but Chinese is <b>NOT</b> a language.<br /><br />Mandarin, Cantonese, Hokkien, to name a few, <b>ARE</b> languages... but, Chinese is <b>NOT</b>.<br /><br />so, if a company advertises something like, "...<i>Excellent command of spoken and written English and Chinese</i>..."<br /><br />what does this imply?<br /><br /><b>racism</b>. period.<br /><br />furthermore, Honkongers speak and write in Cantonese and Taiwanese speak and write a different version of Mandarin as that of P.R.C.<br /><br />so, if the advert isn't racism, albeit cloaked in propriety to fool idiots who can't differentiate between language and ethnicity, then I rest my case. <br /><br /><b>knowledge is King</b>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-87481097391220375272010-02-14T15:47:12.725+08:002010-02-14T15:47:12.725+08:00Anon 3.11
Who the fuck are you.
And you sure got...Anon 3.11<br /><br />Who the fuck are you.<br /><br />And you sure got to fucking nerve to talk about honesty. That word never and ever be in your circle friend!<br /><br />Stop blaming others. Jacky Chan is very very right. You need to be controlled. <br /><br />It is time and very good time indeed, this new year of yours to pass a new resolution. BE GRATEFUL and CONTROLYR SELF.pakteh adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15052066518253539008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-10688667449336592132010-02-14T14:12:32.705+08:002010-02-14T14:12:32.705+08:00Anak permatang pauh
Not all Malay Singaporeans ar...Anak permatang pauh<br /><br />Not all Malay Singaporeans are unaware of this veiled discrimination in the name of meritocracy.<br /><br />Many Malay lawyers are also frustrated and they term it as the 'system'.<br /><br />You would need a lot of resources to fight this 'system'.<br /><br />The educational assessment REWARDS hard work ala memory NOT real talent.<br /><br />So no prizes for guessing who will be rising to the TOP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-13285275746215881412010-02-14T14:06:59.087+08:002010-02-14T14:06:59.087+08:00and china should also learn to conduct internation...and china should also learn to conduct international trade in English otherwise they will be left behind<br /><br />far far east ooops behindAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-60086713535478591192010-02-14T13:47:12.861+08:002010-02-14T13:47:12.861+08:00Dato' Rocky,
You tahu tak Saiful "the ac...Dato' Rocky,<br /><br />You tahu tak Saiful "the accuser" tu ada darah China? Nenek dia Chinese convert. Saya paste suatu conversation dlm Facebook Sdr Saiful:<br /><br /> "Saiful Bukhari Azlan Had Yee Sang on New Year's Eve(yg halal) Sedap! ;) Happy Chinese New Year. Maaf, excited skt, sbb saya ni ada darah cina sdkt, nenek asal Chinese, convert Islam. Selamat bercuti, hati2 ketika memandu. Salam"<br /><br />Mari kita ramai-ramai ucap Gong Xi kat Saiful tanda sokongan moral.<br /><br />p.s. Kak Wan pun ada darah Cina sikit, tak salah?Half-Chinesenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-71278455801757361962010-02-14T12:58:46.446+08:002010-02-14T12:58:46.446+08:00BM is insignificant.
Not needed.
All my malay h...BM is insignificant. <br /><br />Not needed.<br /><br />All my malay high-class friends send their children to International Schools. Or better still - they send them to UK or US (US a bit difficult now because of our bad reputation) at a tender age.<br /><br />All business should conduct their business in English. Full stop.<br /><br />Not learning mandarin for a post in China is akin to not learning Japanese if sent to Japan. You will die standing if you don;t know Japanese there.<br /><br />But for some jaguh kampongs - stay in the kampong dah. And, hop into a tempurung lebih bagus.<br /><br />Jaguh Kota.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-81003449045628772842010-02-14T12:54:02.026+08:002010-02-14T12:54:02.026+08:00SHut up & learn chinese,. so you can truly wis...SHut up & learn chinese,. so you can truly wish your neighbours a HAPPY NEW YEAR in their language.<br />Come on stop being such a prude.<br /><br />Xin Nien Qwai Ler.<br /><br />LOw Sang.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-7244450629431154272010-02-14T12:19:05.974+08:002010-02-14T12:19:05.974+08:00It seems like there are sizeable numbers of people...It seems like there are sizeable numbers of people who still think that the job advertisement is racially discriminatory.<br /><br />It really isn't so.<br /><br />Let's say you own a restaurant and you have a job opening for a cook/chef. Tell me, would you employ someone who doesn't even know how to boil water?<br /><br />Ok, maybe that's not quite suitable as an example.<br /><br />How about this:<br /><br />You have a shop in the tourist belt and you find that most of your customers are from the Middle East who mostly speak Arabic. Now, you have two applicants for the post of Salesperson who are equal in every way except that one can speak Arabic fluently whilst the other can't. Tell me, isn't it a no brainer which of the two applicants you will hire?<br /><br />And when you put out the advertisement for the said job isn't it more thoughtful and considerate to specify right at the outset that preference would be given to the applicant who is fluent in Arabic? Surely this will save time and effort for those applicants who do not meet this qualification - they can just decide not to apply.<br /><br />You can easily imagine how annoying and depressing it is to go for the job interview only to be informed by the would-be employer that he cannot hire you because you can't speak Arabic. <br /><br />Therefore, employers who are being upfront and frank in their recruitment advertisements about their requirements will save many job seekers unnecessary disappoint and heartbreak. It has absolutely nothing to do with race. It's all a matter of market place demand and supply.<br /><br />PointblankAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com