tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post6740792206968210248..comments2024-03-17T15:10:12.273+08:00Comments on rocky's bru: Will the Bar Council stand up for Ian Chin, please?Rockybruhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08187242806213153913noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-29610664017929504232008-11-14T21:08:00.000+08:002008-11-14T21:08:00.000+08:00Salam sejahtera sekalian,I'd like to begin by corr...Salam sejahtera sekalian,<BR/><BR/>I'd like to begin by correcting your spelling. It's 'profession' not 'prefession'. Secondly, Ian Chin is an outstanding judge, who always finishes his tasks as scheduled, if not, earlier. Thirdly, his resignation is because he is so sick of this dog-eat-dog world of politics, he has kids to look after, and wants to do things he has never been able to do. He spoke the truth and yet he is scrutinised for it. It is a known fact that politics intervene with judicial affairs and this is a conflict in the separation of powers. I get so sick and fed up listening to people making ridiculous comments that have no basis whatsoever. Set up a tribunal? The tribunal is bloody corrupted to begin with. It's not independent. It accepts rasuah. People conducting the investigations are not even experienced enough to handle such situations. So it's a vicious cycle. There's no hope for the judiciary system. Reform my arse.<BR/><BR/><BR/>MBC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-64684582605968343182008-11-03T04:04:00.000+08:002008-11-03T04:04:00.000+08:00(Funny, even a simple disagreement can make you a ...(Funny, even a simple disagreement can make you a racist.)<BR/><BR/>Yup. Try the definition of "social contract" for starters.muthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03649470810848087090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-14411177240782530392008-11-02T06:15:00.001+08:002008-11-02T06:15:00.001+08:00http://jadamkraft.blogspot.com/2008/10/polticians-...http://jadamkraft.blogspot.com/2008/10/polticians-and-media-personalities.htmlMousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08361902690140189121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-21743428900508595212008-11-02T06:15:00.000+08:002008-11-02T06:15:00.000+08:00http://jadamkraft.blogspot.com/2008/10/polticians-...http://jadamkraft.blogspot.com/2008/10/polticians-and-media-personalities.htmlMousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08361902690140189121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-84488522515186554132008-11-02T03:25:00.000+08:002008-11-02T03:25:00.000+08:00"Damansara said... Funny, even a simple disagre..."Damansara said...<BR/><BR/> Funny, even a simple disagreement can make you a racist."<BR/><BR/>It wasnt that funny when the disagreement as you put it occurs on the bumis' side eh damansara??<BR/><BR/>whats with the double standard practices nowadays??are they start teaching it as a subject under the class of pendidikan moral???<BR/><BR/>~Petaling JayaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-11724858753340928952008-11-01T21:56:00.000+08:002008-11-01T21:56:00.000+08:00Ian Chin's resignation came almost immediately aft...Ian Chin's resignation came almost immediately after Zaki became Chief Justice. The UMNO man seems to be moving very fast to clear the judiciary of his (read: UMNO's)unwanted man. What a pity for Malaysian Judiciary. We seem to be going back to Mahathir's time. What a waste of resources. Just when we thought the Judiciary is about to redeem itself, now with Zaki showing his true colours it undoes what has been done to bring our Judiciary to pre 1988 standing. I've great doubt about Zaki being able to turnaround the Judiciary. He can't even manage his own domestic problem.<BR/><BR/>frm: taxpayer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-51752928354355899462008-11-01T19:12:00.000+08:002008-11-01T19:12:00.000+08:00Rocky,Excerpts of-Speech by Dato’ Ambiga Sreenevas...Rocky,<BR/><BR/>Excerpts of-Speech by Dato’ Ambiga Sreenevasan, President, Malaysian Bar: Let Right Be Done:<BR/><BR/><BR/>"We would further like to state for the record that although three Judges were ultimately dismissed, six Judges suffered in all. Six Judges were suspended. The three who were ultimately reinstated suffered during their suspension and even when they were reinstated. They were never given due recognition for their flawless years of service on the Bench. Some were potential Lords President or Chief Justices but these positions eluded them. Needless to say, the Judges who were removed paid a heavy price for acting in accordance with their consciences. These Judges acted with courage in upholding the Rule of Law in the face of much adversity.<BR/><BR/>The Judges who were suspended and dismissed are Tun Dato’ Haji Mohamed Salleh Bin Abas, the late Tan Sri Wan Suleiman Bin Pawan Teh and Datuk George Edward Seah.<BR/><BR/>The Judges who were suspended but reinstated are the late Tan Sri Eusoffe Abdoolcader, Tan Sri Wan Hamzah and Tan Sri Azmi Kamaruddin.<BR/><BR/>We, the members of the Bar, salute them."<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>I find it odd for Ambiga who has highly acknowledged Tun Salleh (amongst others) for his flawless years of service on the bench to remain silent whilst members of the Bar ridicule the former Lord President on the consultant issue.<BR/><BR/>One Against hypocrisy.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Full text:<BR/><BR/>http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/bar_news/berita_badan_peguam/launch_of_the_report_of_the_panel_of_eminent_persons_to_review_the_1988_judicial_crisis_in_malaysia.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-86060776501917595072008-11-01T13:29:00.000+08:002008-11-01T13:29:00.000+08:00Dear Rocky,Tun Salleh had said:“As far as I am con...Dear Rocky,<BR/><BR/>Tun Salleh had said:<BR/>“As far as I am concerned, the matter is now closed,”<BR/><BR/>So why are you dragging it up again and not giving due respect to the man's wish?<BR/><BR/>Lest you still haven't realised it, in your previous postings on Tun Salleh, you resorted to making assumptions and accusations against the Malaysian Bar without directly checking or investigating the historical facts with authoritative sources. <BR/><BR/>This only reflects poorly on your journalistic (or even blogging!) ethics. <BR/><BR/>Coupled with your stupendous stand (re Teresa Kok) which seemed to suggest that the press should be free to incite fear and violence, it is indeed incomprehensible how the National Press Club has seen fit to have you (with such a warped understanding of the press freedom concept) as their Advisor, and the All blogs (if indeed All Blogs is even a bona fide entity) to have you as their Protem President!<BR/><BR/>One can only conclude that you exemplify the infamous "Malaysia Boleh", syndrome!<BR/><BR/>-arusa-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-35406967431713561622008-11-01T11:39:00.000+08:002008-11-01T11:39:00.000+08:00SegaranYou are a bloody great twister. Yup you can...Segaran<BR/><BR/>You are a bloody great twister. <BR/><BR/>Yup you can take that as a compliment.<BR/><BR/>Much better than those hit the US recently.<BR/><BR/>You main hantam saja.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12072756461657832849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-19590386264847902552008-11-01T04:11:00.000+08:002008-11-01T04:11:00.000+08:00Dear Segaran,What Tun got to do with Ambiga being ...Dear Segaran,<BR/><BR/>What Tun got to do with Ambiga being ambigious?<BR/><BR/>Now are you going to say its Tun's fault that you are being this blur and ambigous too?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-11832788110553118352008-11-01T04:06:00.000+08:002008-11-01T04:06:00.000+08:00Its in the interest of justice only if it fits the...Its in the interest of justice only if it fits their interest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-52893563649590898952008-11-01T01:14:00.000+08:002008-11-01T01:14:00.000+08:00Hi BruLife will never be the same again with Ambig...Hi Bru<BR/><BR/>Life will never be the same again with Ambiga now that Zaid Ibrahim is completely out of the picture. Her dreary tears to PM to abolish the ISA were rightfully wasted. The Bar Council has already been warned by the Home Ministry not to raise sensitive issues. She missed the cocktails meant for her. Her close associates in Hindraf area now “illegals” and the defector opposition leader had said to take a break. Zaki is now the new legal boss. And today, Razak Baginda became a freeman while his boss continues to chalk up more nominations for the presidency as UMNO becomes more relevant. Maybe she is pondering to vacate her presidency just like Zaid Ibrahim when he saw the writing on the wall. So why waste her time on Justice Ian Chin, too much headaches already?whackthembuggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12085935745793456830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-75651073098247398662008-11-01T00:06:00.000+08:002008-11-01T00:06:00.000+08:00segaran said... Dear Rocky, Where were you w...segaran said...<BR/><BR/> Dear Rocky,<BR/><BR/> Where were you when Tun Salleh Abbas were sacked. I am not sure. Were you in NST or Malay Mail then defending Mahathir's action. Please clarify what part did you play in 1988 when Tun were sacked. I still remember it was Bar Council who were all the way behind Tun Salleh Abbas. One thing is for sure Mahathir is a disgrace to the nation with exception of some people who have benefitted materially from him. Hope you will clarify.<BR/><BR/> 10:17 AM<BR/><BR/>SEGARAN, YOU ARE A DISGRACE TOO. WHY? YOU HATE MAHATHIR JUST BECAUSE YOU DID NOT BENEFIT MATERIALLY FROM HIM?<BR/>WHO IS MORE MATERIALISTIC THEN??<BR/><BR/>PLS CLARIFY!<BR/><BR/>SPIDER.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-35279171885402502142008-10-31T18:39:00.000+08:002008-10-31T18:39:00.000+08:00There are only two sides of justice.This side or t...There are only two sides of justice.<BR/><BR/>This side or that side.<BR/><BR/>It all depends on which side you are on.<BR/><BR/>The drunken Bar has been on both sides, depending on which benefits them most.<BR/><BR/>Ambiga? Hmmm, is she ambiguous?<BR/><BR/>A GOOD MAN DOES NOTHING>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-28495117852762632852008-10-31T17:45:00.000+08:002008-10-31T17:45:00.000+08:00In the ongoing issue of Tun Salleh's applicati...In the ongoing issue of Tun Salleh's application to be consultant, two lawyers (Nizam Bashir & Robert Lazar) have put forth intelligent and relevant arguments on the subject.<BR/><BR/>http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/bar_news/berita_badan_peguam/ex_judge_shocked_at_bar_councils_errors.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-42265433110718244772008-10-31T14:20:00.000+08:002008-10-31T14:20:00.000+08:00Dear Rocky,Good to hear your clarification. Thank...Dear Rocky,<BR/><BR/>Good to hear your clarification. Thank God its only two set of rule and I am convinced just like Tun that it is an error and also glad that they have rectified it by just making one mistake unlike Mahathir who have done errors after errors in destroying our system of governance. Once again thank you for your clarification.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-5855177781880734422008-10-31T14:02:00.000+08:002008-10-31T14:02:00.000+08:00Funny, even a simple disagreement can make you a r...Funny, even a simple disagreement can make you a racist.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12072756461657832849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-61951333701790960782008-10-31T12:04:00.000+08:002008-10-31T12:04:00.000+08:00She knows when to be silent and when to comment. S...She knows when to be silent and when to comment. She knows, no amount of explaination can please racist like you. You fellas will go on antagonising and harping on the same issue and refusing to move on. The discrimination and senseless injustices done by your kind is aplenty and counting. Typical of ....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-85293491065179621032008-10-31T12:03:00.000+08:002008-10-31T12:03:00.000+08:00I thought there were never 2 sets of rules. It's o...I thought there were never 2 sets of rules. It's only the Bar Council giving and interpreting the same old rules with different application. I mean the Bar Council then and the Bar Council now. The problem lies not in those Rules but the so-called learned men and women of their profession. Or are they really 'learned' in the first place?<BR/>malsia1206Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-83763199724968517862008-10-31T11:25:00.000+08:002008-10-31T11:25:00.000+08:00Segara wroteDear Rocky,Where were you when Tun Sal...Segara wrote<BR/>Dear Rocky,<BR/><BR/>Where were you when Tun Salleh Abbas were sacked. I am not sure. Were you in NST or Malay Mail then defending Mahathir's action. Please clarify what part did you play in 1988 when Tun were sacked. I still remember it was Bar Council who were all the way behind Tun Salleh Abbas. One thing is for sure Mahathir is a disgrace to the nation with exception of some people who have benefitted materially from him. Hope you will clarify.<BR/><BR/>10:17 AM<BR/>---------------<BR/><BR/>dear segaran,<BR/><BR/>in 1988 i was a reporter with the business times. in my interviews with tun salleh abas for his book, i get to re-visit the newspaper articles on the crisis, both in the malaysian and the foreign media. until today, they make good reading.<BR/><BR/>i am aware of bar council's support for the Lord President. whether it is "all the way" as you described it, i'm not sure but am willing to take your word for it.<BR/><BR/>but given the bar's latest stand to distance itself from the previous bar council's decision, or mistake (in giving dispensation to kc vohrah), don't blame me if i would like to stress that the support for salleh abas in 1988 was given by the bar council then, not the bar council now.<BR/><BR/>you can't have two sets of rules, dear segaran.<BR/><BR/>thank you.Rockybruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08187242806213153913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-56034408566511599742008-10-31T11:20:00.000+08:002008-10-31T11:20:00.000+08:00AMBIGA SAID"It is unfortunate that every time a ju...AMBIGA SAID<BR/>"It is unfortunate that every time a judge is brave enough to speak up, he has to leave or feels he has to leave and nothing is done about those allegations".<BR/><BR/>"Again, this leaves a lot of unanswered questions. This is not in the interest of the administration of justice,"<BR/><BR/>MY COMMENT<BR/>Who the hell asked him to quit? Don't tell me its Dr Mahathir again! Or maybe he was experiencing nightmares?<BR/><BR/>Ambiga being a learned person should know the vital difference between BRAVE ENOUGH and STUPID ENOUGH. <BR/><BR/>Or maybe it is all the same. <BR/><BR/>Thus that is why when we talk about the so-called 1988 Judicial Crisis, the issue of Salleh Abas problems with the King was given a TOTAL ELEGANT SILENCE. A none issue.<BR/><BR/>I wonder why some legal eagles always like to blame others on everything. <BR/><BR/>Then they try their best to make it sounds so intelligent and worth pondering, when they know they are bull shitting on all scores.<BR/><BR/><BR/>MY COMMENT<BR/>Dear Ambiga, STOP TALKING. Act now!<BR/><BR/>If you really want the truth, do it now. All of them are still alive. <BR/><BR/>Tun Mahathir, Tun Salleh, The Ex-King, Justice Ian Chin and most of the people involved are still alive and kicking.<BR/><BR/>But kindly minus all the rhetoric. <BR/><BR/>Get down to business and do not pick and choose your issues.<BR/><BR/>After all you are the President of the Bar council. If you managed to convince the Government to pay the compensation (God we are waiting to know the figures, a so-called justice that only privy to some), I am sure you can pull this thru also.<BR/><BR/>Do not want to hear you complaining later, ‘His demise leaves a lot of unanswered questions’.<BR/><BR/>For once Ambiga, skip all the nonsense and BE BRAVE TO WALK THE TALK.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12072756461657832849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-29087186596140955292008-10-31T10:34:00.000+08:002008-10-31T10:34:00.000+08:00Alo Minachi,Bend the rule 60 lah, Allow Ian Chin t...Alo Minachi,<BR/>Bend the rule 60 lah, Allow Ian Chin to become consultant as ex-gratia. Anyway he is non-bumi What? Can lah...cincai lah...<BR/><BR/>Melamine TanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-18850539635218349882008-10-31T10:30:00.000+08:002008-10-31T10:30:00.000+08:00I have read the comments in the Bar Council Blog. ...I have read the comments in the Bar Council Blog. Doesn't change my view that some of them are still loyar buruk. Instead of addressing the double standard issue they continued misdirecting themselves by highlighting unrelated issue. Heck man! The public want answers on the double standard applied by Bar Council. Surprise...surprise. Instead of adddressing the issue at hand some of the loyar buruk harped on TSA's 20 year old "mistake". Not relevant, to quote Justice Paul famous phrase. It also reminds me of Sarah Palin, 'Lain yang disoal lain yang dijawab'. See! Even loyar buruk missed the point when they start to be emotional. Because they are so defensive, some of the loyar buruk cannot separate the person and the issue, the forest and the trees. Now, who actually is barking on the wrong tree. <BR/><BR/>Zaid, where are you, the bapa pembela TSA. Your silence is not elegant.<BR/><BR/>Biar BetulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-35963525617302705942008-10-31T10:26:00.000+08:002008-10-31T10:26:00.000+08:00Bro,The Bar Council is nothing more than a circus ...Bro,<BR/><BR/>The Bar Council is nothing more than a circus themselves.<BR/><BR/>I never trust all these group of so called lawyers - thinking that they and only them is right. Even my dog can also bark and twist his tongue like them.<BR/><BR/>by the way, Razak Baginda is a free man - for the time being.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-46243131964344253682008-10-31T10:17:00.000+08:002008-10-31T10:17:00.000+08:00Dear Rocky,Where were you when Tun Salleh Abbas we...Dear Rocky,<BR/><BR/>Where were you when Tun Salleh Abbas were sacked. I am not sure. Were you in NST or Malay Mail then defending Mahathir's action. Please clarify what part did you play in 1988 when Tun were sacked. I still remember it was Bar Council who were all the way behind Tun Salleh Abbas. One thing is for sure Mahathir is a disgrace to the nation with exception of some people who have benefitted materially from him. Hope you will clarify.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com