tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post2305077736047339833..comments2024-03-17T15:10:12.273+08:00Comments on rocky's bru: The Malays are leavingRockybruhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08187242806213153913noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-46656138127768419422007-08-15T07:38:00.000+08:002007-08-15T07:38:00.000+08:00Interesting figures & quite surprising stats for M...Interesting figures & quite surprising stats for Malays shedding of Malaysian citizenship. I know for a fact that former Malaysians residing in the US visit Malaysia frequently. They spend alot of money there as tourists & local consumers. They send tons of money home to families in Malaysia. Successful former Malay-Malaysians overseas buy properties overseas thus giving more money to families in Malaysia & carving Malay imprints here in the US. They make donations to Malaysian charities & help build/setup colleges in Malaysia. <BR/><BR/>Looks like Malaysia's economy could get a boost from these former Malaysian citizens.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-44043528784714540112007-07-15T21:48:00.000+08:002007-07-15T21:48:00.000+08:00In this increasingly borderless world, we should n...In this increasingly borderless world, we should not be shocked, sad or surprised that people move/migrate to where they feel they will fit better. One man's meat is another man's poison, isn't it, so why not let people go where they are going to be happier? And if they should one day want to come back, they should still be welcomed back with open arms. This world belongs to everybody, and we all deserve to be where we want to be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-44101628440358270582007-07-14T21:45:00.000+08:002007-07-14T21:45:00.000+08:00Kata Hang Tuah "Takkan Melayu hilang di dunia"I th...Kata Hang Tuah "Takkan Melayu hilang di dunia"<BR/><BR/>I think its the best way that Malays are migrating overseas so that we can not just promote our culture, but also show that we're capable to settle almosty everywhere in the world. <BR/><BR/>You can simply see Chinese & Indian in every country & setup their Chinatown or Indian street.<BR/><BR/>Why not Malay in every country?<BR/><BR/>Even the Malay language was formerly ranked top-5 among the world spoken language!Shah Rezahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16673240756084508379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-48293267481285622972007-07-14T00:37:00.000+08:002007-07-14T00:37:00.000+08:00maybe this is why the malays still look like they ...maybe this is why the malays still look like they are underperforming in the NEP...coz the well to do ones leave! So of course, the stats will show that Malays are still poorer...get scholarship, go overseas, work there, settle there...<BR/> <BR/>if you can trust the stats i mean...<BR/><BR/>whatever, Pak Lah still remains a katak di bawah tempurung for me. Even countries like India can give dual citizenship, expects that when their non-resident indians, once have done well for themselves, will eventually return with their brains and pockets to their motherland...bodoh takdak tempatlah PM ni...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-3513830535847306422007-07-13T10:29:00.000+08:002007-07-13T10:29:00.000+08:00I worked my butt off in Malaysia and left with $30...I worked my butt off in Malaysia and left with $30,000 after 10 years. I worked in Australia for 18 years and I live in a MYR$3 million home overlooking the sea, my kids go to selective schools (for gifted children)for which I pay MYR$3,000 pa. My wife and I drive late model cars (costing about MYR$130,000 and MYR$350,000 resepctively - all fully paid off). I got citizenship for the asking. My kids are citizens. They can enter local universities after HSC..no race quotas (except for our orang asli)and no corruption. Fantastic healthcare (even though we complain). Freedom of speech, religion & thought. Great weather..long sandy beaches, snowy mountains, etc. Best of all no Taliban! Why would anyone want to refuse all this even if they are Malay, Jakun,Khek,Cantonese, Tamil or Javanese? It is a no brainer. Pak Lah can keep his citizenship by his "citizenry"(sic) is definitely voting with their feet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-50211285900285837372007-07-13T07:26:00.000+08:002007-07-13T07:26:00.000+08:00I reckon that the govt to solve the internal probl...I reckon that the govt to solve the internal problems first instead of engaging in trivial matters. <BR/><BR/>Too much time to spare? Do what is needed foremost, clean up the house. Nobody enjoys living in a state of mess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-8448947990573435272007-07-12T23:54:00.000+08:002007-07-12T23:54:00.000+08:00"Nobody is indispensable...life goes on. No one mi..."Nobody is indispensable...life goes on. No one misses you...honest!"<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>A valid reason for ppl to leave cause ppl with this sort of thought.... Nobody is indispensable... so when are they indispensing semivalue and kakpidah and najib? no one will miss them too....Wattahack?https://www.blogger.com/profile/00546364400875431459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-5215010381452376632007-07-12T14:43:00.000+08:002007-07-12T14:43:00.000+08:00Whoever wants to leave can do so. It is a free cou...Whoever wants to leave can do so. It is a free country...free to leave...don't come back and good riddance.<BR/><BR/>Can't stand the racism, huh? Depends on how you look at it. Why? have you been bashed in the streets cos you not a Malay or a Chinese, or what?<BR/><BR/>You've made tons of money that allows you to now migrate. Just reflect...racism? You made that fortune here, among other things and now you say you are leaving because you cant stand the racism here? Oh, please...<BR/><BR/>And there are those already residing abroad saying that the Govt ought to look at the reasons for Malaysians leaving, etc.<BR/><BR/>As for me, its simple...just leave. Malaysia losing expertise to other countries? Brain drain? No, I don't agree at all. Nobody is indispensable...life goes on. No one misses you...honest!<BR/><BR/>Whether the system is seen as good or bad in Malaysia, the fact is it works...unless of course, like the ups and downs in life, when some things do not go your way -- thats when most people tend to look for faults, reasons and scapegoats. These are selfish people whom I'd encourage to migrate without delay.<BR/><BR/>As for losing expertise...the work culture and mindset in Malaysia is very different from other countries. Therefore, the so-called perception of expertise set against the backdrop of a local mindset just will not have much validity...of course, unless you constantly have the view that other countries are much better than your motherland.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-35671334675219476892007-07-12T12:02:00.000+08:002007-07-12T12:02:00.000+08:00I think the data is kinda misleading.Many people h...I think the data is kinda misleading.<BR/><BR/>Many people have migrated but still are maintaining their citizenship. I am one example that probably dont show up in the statistics.Srikanth Sivahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12680724201407419601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-26443432762317642032007-07-12T10:57:00.000+08:002007-07-12T10:57:00.000+08:00Hi all,We think the grass is greener on the other ...Hi all,<BR/>We think the grass is greener on the other side. I dont think so. these matsallehs are more racist than u think. Ppl who have migrated are to embarassed to tell about how they are treated in their adopted country, so they got to "telan"like it or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-34420449699243975672007-07-12T10:04:00.000+08:002007-07-12T10:04:00.000+08:00so the no. 1 reason is marriage, eh? ok, nor ismat...so the no. 1 reason is marriage, eh? ok, nor ismat is of to woo some japanese ladies into marriage, and leave for japan! emm... maybe a job first, then a japanese lady...<BR/><BR/>it's not that surprising to hear that many malays are leaving the country. perhaps they have finally figured out that the saying, "hujan emas di negeri orang, hujan batu negeri sendiri, lebih baik negeri sendiri" makes no sense at all.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16795993055706654760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-16051686730954445172007-07-12T07:58:00.000+08:002007-07-12T07:58:00.000+08:00Bergen, at least they are walking...whereas you ju...Bergen, at least they are walking...whereas you just talk. Walk in their shoes and you will empathize.zorrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07541853781206395661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-26178150831817171412007-07-12T06:59:00.000+08:002007-07-12T06:59:00.000+08:00"The Malays are leaving".... and more and more Ind..."The Malays are leaving".... and more and more Indonesians are coming....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-55438391977192330922007-07-12T02:58:00.000+08:002007-07-12T02:58:00.000+08:00I was speechless for a minute after reading the Be...I was speechless for a minute after reading the Bernama story. It is difficult to fathom such backward thinking from a leader of a country.<BR/><BR/>In the first place, shouldn't a more reasonable response be to understand why your citizens are leaving the country and to try to address those issues and remedy the situation? It seems rather assinine to say that since you've given up your citizenship, therefore you can never become a Malaysian citizen again. Much like cutting off your nose to spite your face.<BR/><BR/>People leave for many reasons and I don't see how penalizing them for doing so benefits anyone. It seems to me that in this case, it puts Malaysia at a disadvantage. Wouldn't it want to lure back the expertise that has gone elsewhere?<BR/><BR/>The other point I wanted to make is that I'm sure that those figures do not provide a true picture. There is no way of capturing the real statistics. Notice how he said that those stats are of Malaysians "who have surrendered their citizenship"?<BR/><BR/>How do you collect stats on those people who become citizens of other countries and do not surrender their Malaysian citizenship for various reasons?<BR/><BR/>I became a citizen of another country many years ago and I have never officially surrendered my Malaysian citizenship for the simple reason that it just never occurred to me that I had to do this. For me when I became a citizen of my adopted country I took an oath to give up any alliance to any other country and that was good enough for me. How many people are out there like me?<BR/><BR/>You always have to look at stats with a wary eye. And let's look at them without emotion and rhetoric to cloud the real issue(s).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-7798539272523077942007-07-12T00:09:00.000+08:002007-07-12T00:09:00.000+08:00I just don't want my children to be seen as beggar...I just don't want my children to be seen as beggars when compared to their relatives overseas. <BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Alas we just BEGGED China for 1.7bil to build another penang bridge... malaysians never shy from begging didnt you know! Guess who pays back?Wattahack?https://www.blogger.com/profile/00546364400875431459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-35404390962407413612007-07-11T22:12:00.000+08:002007-07-11T22:12:00.000+08:00abdulah will say..."I don't know and I don't care"...abdulah will say...<BR/><BR/>"I don't know and I don't care" "I am not involved"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-43180584906751013822007-07-11T20:15:00.000+08:002007-07-11T20:15:00.000+08:00I am a non-Malay. In my immediate my family and a...I am a non-Malay. In my immediate my family and among close relatives, those who are well educated have ALL emigrated overseas. However, they have all KEPT THEIR CITIZENSHIP - and will do so as long as the parents are still alive. In the case of one of my sisters, she has lived outside Malaysia for the last 30 years (from student days), but is still legally a Malaysian.<BR/><BR/>I believe that the figures for non-Malays emigrating are far higher than for Malays. I think a proper survey should be carried out - then we will know for sure. <BR/><BR/>As for me, I am comfortable here in Malaysia - after coming home from working overseas for quite a number of years. It's my children's education and future that I am worried about. One thinhg's for sure, they will need to work outside this country to earn a decent living. The wage levels in Malaysia are a joke and even our executives earn less than a secretary in say Hong Kong. I just don't want my children to be seen as beggars when compared to their relatives overseas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-51895291433197808932007-07-11T18:22:00.000+08:002007-07-11T18:22:00.000+08:00Can we ask Badawi and the whole family to migrate?...Can we ask Badawi and the whole family to migrate?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-44648271417177648612007-07-11T18:15:00.000+08:002007-07-11T18:15:00.000+08:00Assume the statistics are correct. It would seem t...Assume the statistics are correct. It would seem the bulk of chinese migrating has peaked years ago. Now the Malays are taking the lead.<BR/><BR/>This is a success story on a policy that does not promote meritocracy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-60786612186768963132007-07-11T17:52:00.000+08:002007-07-11T17:52:00.000+08:00IF Malays are leaving the land of Bumiputra, then ...IF Malays are leaving the land of Bumiputra, then other races should think twice now! What's left for the minority who cannot even get the Bumiputra status? Is life really good on foreign countries?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-35390659256063437672007-07-11T17:15:00.000+08:002007-07-11T17:15:00.000+08:0079,199 Malays left? I bet for Indonesia, the Gulf ...79,199 Malays left? I bet for Indonesia, the Gulf states and Europe (mostly marriage). 25,107 Chinese, for USA, Canada, Australia and Europe (mostly work and businesses). 1,347 Indians and 350 other races for USA, Canada and Europe (mostly work). A survey of figures, locations, purposes and occupations would be interesting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-84748582102455084592007-07-11T15:56:00.000+08:002007-07-11T15:56:00.000+08:00Where have the Malays gone to? Australia? Britain?...Where have the Malays gone to? Australia? Britain? Sumatra? Jawa?Satria Asiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02426954768714227934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-7905401058478679082007-07-11T15:45:00.000+08:002007-07-11T15:45:00.000+08:00For me, my brother & his family are one of the luc...For me, my brother & his family are one of the lucky malay, migrate to chicago in 1998 and now fully not Malaysian. I'm going to follow that path also. Hijrah is a good things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-17342843759046697792007-07-11T14:50:00.000+08:002007-07-11T14:50:00.000+08:00I'm sick and tired of seeing my hard earned tax-mo...I'm sick and tired of seeing my hard earned tax-money being pocketed left and right by the very people who were "hired" to serve us. With all the latest "mega-bodoh" projects being announced, my heart further sinks to know that more of my hard earned money is being made as part payment by the idiot ministers-in-charge for some luxury villa overseas or multi-million purchases of designer/couture wear by their wifeys/mistresses.<BR/>I'm sick and tired of seeing the PM's "happy and satisfied" face everytime he is asked about his marriage but nothing concrete being done to take care of the rakyat. The nation's in chaos and all he can say is that "U want your PM to be, so now, I am Happy!!" What a total idiot!! I still can't believe he is my country's PM!!!<BR/>I'm sick and tired of lousy and crappy education system, where everything's implementated based on race and not knowledge acquirement.<BR/>I'm in the midst of finding my way to an Aussie PR, not bcos I think the grass' greener there but defnitely for the betterment of my future generation. There's always racist everywhere in the world...the only difference is whether racism is practised within the government policies or not....and for sure, it's in Malaysian policies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-71339807405846868322007-07-11T13:20:00.000+08:002007-07-11T13:20:00.000+08:00Hi All,I am migrating not by choice. My husband co...Hi All,<BR/>I am migrating not by choice. My husband couldn't get Malaysian PR.<BR/>Will I leave my Malaysian citizenship? not if I don't have to (for any reasons).<BR/>Malaysia doesn't approve dual-citizenship, if I want to take up the nationality of the country resided - have to let go my malaysian citizenship. some people let go their citizenship for $$ - to get hold of their EPF for eg. For me I will try and try to bring my family back to Malaysia - maybe one day a malaysian girl can bring her unmalaysian husband home as did her malaysian men bringing their unmalaysian wives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com