tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post2232831439672934036..comments2024-03-17T15:10:12.273+08:00Comments on rocky's bru: In defence of the Social ContractRockybruhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08187242806213153913noreply@blogger.comBlogger144125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-43412969103059902602008-11-10T00:08:00.000+08:002008-11-10T00:08:00.000+08:00banyak yang pandai sini...senag cerita...buat rusu...banyak yang pandai sini...senag cerita...buat rusuhan,.....biar YANG DIPERTUAN AGUNG guna kuasa istihar darurat,lepas tue boleh ler askar/polis tembak jer sapa sapa tak hormat SULTAN DAN YANG DIPERTUAN AGUNG.DAULAT TUANKU...<BR/>PADA BANGSA LAIN YANG TAK SETUJU PADA SOSIAL CONTRACT...TRY LER BUAT RUSUHAN..LEPAS TUE TENGOK SAPA YANG KENA......help_linemyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16862432742958922269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-57534685277504479222008-11-07T14:07:00.000+08:002008-11-07T14:07:00.000+08:00I take it that Mr Rocky Bru here agrees with all t...I take it that Mr Rocky Bru here agrees with all the racist rant here....<BR/><BR/>...that Malaysian citizen who disagree can get out of this country...<BR/><BR/>Thank you very much for confirming your bigotry and racist character.<BR/><BR/>You might as well join Utusan to propagate their racist agenda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-70836013397984640362008-11-07T13:47:00.000+08:002008-11-07T13:47:00.000+08:00It is really sad that while the rest of the world ...It is really sad that while the rest of the world is moving towards skin-color-blind... we here are still insecure about their own race.<BR/><BR/>It looks like the dream of equality of mankind in the eyes of God is but just a dream in Malaysia.<BR/><BR/>What goes around, will come around.<BR/>How you treat people, you will get treated the same.<BR/><BR/>The world is bigger than just this Bolehland.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-73315354776996228952008-10-24T14:33:00.000+08:002008-10-24T14:33:00.000+08:00Hmmmmm.... ada yang cakap ni kena pikir baik baik ...Hmmmmm.... ada yang cakap ni kena pikir baik baik dulu <BR/><BR/>http://paksako.blogspot.com/2008/10/muhyiddin-says-teach-young-about-social.html<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>XXXRomeo-kotaXXXAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-46246217995656813442008-10-22T13:52:00.000+08:002008-10-22T13:52:00.000+08:00Eleh ko pun sama gak. Mengaku je lah yang kita ni ...Eleh ko pun sama gak. <BR/><BR/>Mengaku je lah yang kita ni takde kehidupan melainkan post komen kat blog orang lepas tu download blue kat internet.lipandeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08064386587405503221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-44780991003335684532008-10-21T22:25:00.000+08:002008-10-21T22:25:00.000+08:00Loser sial korang.Negara okay ke, negara nak hancu...Loser sial korang.<BR/><BR/>Negara okay ke, negara nak hancur ke, korang main post komen kat blog orang.<BR/><BR/>Macam la penting sangat.Amir Hafizihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11371404893050352294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-90931802458397612822008-10-21T11:29:00.000+08:002008-10-21T11:29:00.000+08:00Salaam, Pak RockyIs it my over-heated imagination ...Salaam, Pak Rocky<BR/><BR/>Is it my over-heated imagination or has Sdr ikan duyong gone silent?<BR/><BR/>I thought I had raised some valid points in my posting and was looking forward to his/her replies?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-28526174210016492962008-10-20T13:22:00.000+08:002008-10-20T13:22:00.000+08:00cukuplah dengan guan eng dan gadis melayu tu - per...cukuplah dengan guan eng dan gadis melayu tu - pertama, berapa banyak mileage dia dapat dari episod ni dan kedua, innocent betul ke gadis tu? Bukanlah nak membela rahim, yang salah tetap salah, tapi tiada perkara yang benar-benar hitam putih dalam hidup ini.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-61650496811961322932008-10-20T11:58:00.000+08:002008-10-20T11:58:00.000+08:00AA,You are a stupid racist and mamak supporter pre...AA,<BR/>You are a stupid racist and mamak supporter pretending to be a liberal. I already said that if better educated person like you ( I assumed and definitely a minority) cannot see that your stupid couuntry is crap because of umno and their stupid race politics, malay sia is doom forever.<BR/>I was really amused by your posting and comments about this conference of rulers. Since when malay sian rulers were that highly revered ( or perhaps, you are trying to create that impression). Since when the rulers have such high morality. Are you thinking of trying to bring them to the level of the Thai King). Does this conference include the one that assaulted the non bumi hockey coach just because his son lost a hockey match??? One more thing , this declaration is so ambiguous that they must well not say anything. " safeguard malay interest and ensure genuine interest of non malay" ha ha ha. In fact the worse has happened, different race will interpret them in their own favour.<BR/><BR/>woke upAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-22875446341074905952008-10-20T10:58:00.000+08:002008-10-20T10:58:00.000+08:00I have read through each and every one of the comm...I have read through each and every one of the comments posted here and my heart is breaking.<BR/><BR/>Why does there have to be a racist element in every single discourse there is nowadays? Why can't we just debate these issues like the rational people we once were?<BR/><BR/>Have we forgotten how to be civil to one another? To be human first? To be Malaysian before Malay, Chinese, Indian, dan lain-lain?<BR/><BR/>For those who have condemned the non-Malays, this is their home too. For those who have condemned the Malays, you share this land with your brothers and sisters. We are nothing without each other, believe me.<BR/><BR/>Cant we all just get along and stop using race as the basis for your arguments? <BR/><BR/>- Malaysian First.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-3299347565693247932008-10-20T09:58:00.000+08:002008-10-20T09:58:00.000+08:00Dear ShanghaiFish..When you say"real" sons of the ...Dear ShanghaiFish..<BR/>When you say<BR/>"real" sons of the soil...<BR/><BR/>Is it not also implying that the Malay Rulers which is the Malay Sultans and the Agong are not the "real" rulers then? <BR/><BR/>How can it be Daulat Tuanku then?lipandeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08064386587405503221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-22165514037917676542008-10-20T08:57:00.000+08:002008-10-20T08:57:00.000+08:00shanghaistephen said... Thanks for this reminder b...<I> shanghaistephen said... <BR/>Thanks for this reminder bro, but curiously, with all due respect to our King and the good Rulers, where is the clause for the rights of the "real" sons of the soil....the orang aslis or the various indigenious peoples of this land both here in the peninsular and in east malaysia, enshrined ? </I><BR/><BR/>You really make me wanna laugh...and the recent act of non malays in order to get what they want (which is abolishing Malays rights) also shows how kiasu these people are<BR/><BR/>Up to the point calling Malays pendatang as the REAL SON OF SOIL is ORANG ASLI...Such an act of hypocrisy if u ask me<BR/><BR/>WOIIII...SEJAK BILA KORANG TIBA TIBA JADI PEMBELA ORANG ASLI NI...DULU KORANG NAK PANDANG ORG ASLI SEBELAH MATA PUN TAK NAK...NTAH NTAH TOKEY CINA YG BANYAK HENYAK ORG ASLI NI PASAL NAK UNTUNG....<BR/><BR/>PIKIRLA WEI..KALAU TAKDE ORG MELAYU MENUBUHKAN KESULTANAN MELAYU YG GEMILANG..YG KAYA NKO INGAT BRITISH NAK JAJAH KE TANAH MELAYU NI.....KALAU HANYA ADA ORG ASLI YG DOK DALAM HUTAN (INI FACT TAU)...TAKDE MENDE...BRITISH TAK KOSER NYE NAK LAYAN....KALAU TANAH MELAYU NI TAKDE HASIL NKO INGAT MOYNG KORANG ESP CINA YG OPPORTUNIST TU NAK MAI SINI KE...WOIII SEBELUM BUAT STATEMENT TU FIKIR LA WEI..ANALISA SEBAB MUSABAB..JGN MAIN AMBIL FACTS ON THE SURFACE NAK MISLEAD ORG<BR/><BR/>AKU PUN KESIAN KAT ORG ASLI NI..TAPI KALAU NKO TAK PUAS HATI PEGILAH COMPLEN KAT JABATAN HAL EHWAL ORG ASLI..JGN BEBEL KAT SINI JE..TAKDE HASIL DAN MENUNJUKAN NKO NI MENGGUNAKAN FACT NI NAK BUAT ARGUMENT YG BODOH<BR/><BR/>Lepas ni boleh la org cina/india jadi PM dengan bantuan ORANG ASLI pasal ye la senang je nak ayat org asli ni ye tak...<BR/><BR/>TOLONG ADA MAKNA TUUUU...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-79617876384232444572008-10-20T08:24:00.000+08:002008-10-20T08:24:00.000+08:00wak segen said... Now lets hear it from the Lims, ...<I>wak segen said... <BR/>Now lets hear it from the Lims, the Koks, the Singhs ,the Ambigas.. the Kohs......and the Anwars , the Harris, the Maliks, the Azlys......</I><BR/><BR/>Hehehe..Yang tak tahan tu The Harris, Maliks and geng tu (geng melayu liberal perasan bagus, tak pikir panjang)....and jgn lupa the Noor kat Berlin yg terlebih perasan bagus tu sekali...melayu makan melayu<BR/><BR/>Ada budak Melayu kat ofis ni lagi la best..tak sedar diri dulu pegi UK pun cukup cukup makan under Artikel 153 sekarang dan hidup senang sedap sedap je cakap pasal persamaan....MELAYU MACAM NI MUDAH LUPAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-75494522682199074022008-10-20T01:00:00.000+08:002008-10-20T01:00:00.000+08:00pujangga ilmu,poddah-lah. tak payah nak quote Mala...pujangga ilmu,<BR/><BR/>poddah-lah. tak payah nak quote Malaysian insider.<BR/><BR/>kalau nak tahu -- siasat lah sikit wan hamidi tu.<BR/>dia Islam lagi, ke? Dia ngaku melayu, ke?<BR/><BR/>malaysian insider ada agenda lah.<BR/><BR/>macam kita bodoh!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-30385614949787989612008-10-19T15:59:00.000+08:002008-10-19T15:59:00.000+08:00Moo moo bek bekHai kambing kambing... masuk kandan...Moo moo bek bek<BR/><BR/>Hai kambing kambing... masuk kandang kerbau bising duk mengembek pula..<BR/><BR/>Nanti kerbau mengamok, tendang semua kambing masuk kandang harimau, baru tau senyap..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-7247372332062917962008-10-19T15:33:00.000+08:002008-10-19T15:33:00.000+08:00Rocky,I was with you when you took it on Badawi an...Rocky,<BR/>I was with you when you took it on Badawi and gang.<BR/>I am still with you.<BR/><BR/>Now finally the hypocrites have been exposed.<BR/>DSAI and DAP pathetic blow-jobbers, whose brains are in thier KOK.<BR/><BR/>I detest and abhor their relentless attacks on you.<BR/><BR/>Be steadfirm in whatever you have been doing. Fear no ONE!<BR/>Be it UMNO gang or DSAI+DAP Lunatic Gangs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-51586264025662198052008-10-19T15:29:00.000+08:002008-10-19T15:29:00.000+08:00If I hate Opposition,is beacuse I HATE DAP!!The LK...If I hate Opposition,<BR/>is beacuse I HATE DAP!!<BR/>The LKS, Karpals and the HINDRAF!!<BR/>I have no problem at all with PAS.<BR/>The Problem I have with PKR is that they are sleeping with DAP too much!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-15800132747316286572008-10-19T15:11:00.000+08:002008-10-19T15:11:00.000+08:00Oh, by the way, here is how leaders also 'protect'...Oh, by the way, here is how leaders also 'protect' hak dan keistemwaan diri sendiri. An extract of an article published in one of the websites.<BR/><BR/>Muhyiddin Yassin <BR/>----------------<BR/>The jostling is seemingly over. A weak leader is quickly and unceremoniously overthrown. The vultures comes to feed. Everyone moves up one rung. The people will have new rulers soon. <BR/><BR/>And who are these new leaders? Somehow, all of UMNO's leaders who will hold the fort, until Pakatan Rakyat takes over, have one or more scandals in the cupboard. Najib is famous for the submarine and arms deals, as well as sex and murder scandals. This time the commission for the Eurocopte seals will not go to him but to Pak Lah - his golden handshake! <BR/><BR/>Let's look at Muhyiddan, the quiet one who is a frontrunner for DPM and future PM (?). This story was carried out in the magazine Asiaweek a while back. One day, when Muhyiddin was the Menteri Besar of Johor, he called up Stamford Holdings, a Singapore company which owned more than 4000 acres of land in th state under oil palm cultivation. Muhyiddin told them to develope 400 acres of the land. He then demanded that Stamford Holdings give him 30% of the devepment. Stamford Holdings agreed, developed the land, and Muhyiddin got his 30%. <BR/><BR/>Sometime later, Muhyiddin called up Stamford Holdings again and told them to develope the remaining 4000 acres of land. This time, Muhyiddin wanted a whopping 70% ! Stamford Holdings refused. A few days later, Muhyiddin called up Stamford Holdings again, and told them, "Look, I have this piece of paper in front of me on my desk. All I have to do is sign it and Stamford Holdings will no longer own the 4000 acres of land. Now, do you agree or not to develope the land and I take 70%." <BR/><BR/>Stamford Holdings again refused. The following week, they received a letter from the Johor government signed by Muhyiddin stating that the government have taken over the land.The nationalised land was later divided to three of Muhyiddin's cronies.Muhyiddin did not dare sue Asiaweek for this report. Asiaweek pre-empted any funny ideas Muhyiddin had by also reporting that all the telephone converations were taped by Stamford Holdings. Now is this guy going to be successful in atrracting foreign investments? Is this guy going to be Malaysia's DPM? Do we deserve him? <BR/><BR/>Rocky will say 'YES'?<BR/><BR/>Just because these folks move up the ladder, we have to ignore such actual episodes?<BR/><BR/>Rocky will have an answer - but you think he will come out in the open on such 'acts'?<BR/><BR/>Ah....its not the same Rocky we knew?<BR/><BR/>YET-TO-SEEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1996446934903991392008-10-19T13:54:00.000+08:002008-10-19T13:54:00.000+08:00Dear ikan duyong,you said "please read up your his...Dear ikan duyong,<BR/>you said "please read up your history. understand the history of malaya. <BR/><BR/>"the social contact is not anyone's imagination."<BR/><BR/>"But then Royal Prof Ungku Aziz said there is NO Social Contract."<BR/><BR/>And you want me to read up todays "history" of malaya ? You're kidding me...yes ? You and I know the alterations and spins done in our history text-books by some very over-zealous politically motivated bigot to actually wipe away the real truth and allows only this much tolerance of anything before islamisation of malaya, right? Or you are not aware or plain ignorant, perhaps?<BR/>It is not in my idea to rewrite history friend, but just to question a document which is not there per se ! Have you such a copy ?....if so please share with me of your knowledge of the contents.I beg to be educated !<BR/><BR/>With or without this social contract document ....my King has my allegience as a 5th generation tax-paying Malaysian and as enshrined in the federal constitution of my country.<BR/><BR/>Cheers mermaid !Shanghai Fishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13128603875616796471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-16255506181652311612008-10-19T13:23:00.000+08:002008-10-19T13:23:00.000+08:00Rocky,I'm not able to read all comments on thi...Rocky,<BR/><BR/>I'm not able to read all comments on this blog coz:<BR/><BR/>1. Some contain vulgar words & not conducive for a rational discourse.<BR/>2. Some contain bad English so much so I have problems understanding their points. Much worse I cud be misled.<BR/><BR/>Think you shud delete those, unless it's yr pride to have 100+ comments, never mind the quality.<BR/><BR/>Now for my take on the subject at hand. It's very well for the rulers to assure this and that. But are they equipped with power to realize them? A small example: Mahathir used to reject recommendations for judges appointments/promotions and after VK Lingam enquiry we know why he did that. The constitution as it stands now does not allow the Conference of Rulers to overule a power crazy PM.<BR/><BR/>frm: not hopefulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-37503168778207978982008-10-19T12:50:00.000+08:002008-10-19T12:50:00.000+08:00Kapada Duli Yang Maha Mulia Seri Paduka Baginda Ya...Kapada Duli Yang Maha Mulia Seri Paduka Baginda Yang Di Pertuan Agong.<BR/>Daulat Tuanku! Daulat Tuanku!Daulat Tuanku!<BR/>Kapada Duli Duli Yang Maha Mulia Raja Raja Melayu.<BR/>Daulat TuanKu! Daulat Tuanku !Daulat Tuanku!<BR/>Menjunjung Kasih.<BR/>arjuna waspada.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-31621798960547987802008-10-19T12:40:00.000+08:002008-10-19T12:40:00.000+08:00ikan duyong said 1:19 AMInteresting point you made...ikan duyong said 1:19 AM<BR/><BR/>Interesting point you made.<BR/><BR/>Shall we now equate Malaysia's Orang Asli with, say, the Aborigines in Australia, the Maoris in New Zealand, the Indian tribes and the Eskimos and Aleuts in the US?<BR/><BR/>Correct me if I am wrong, but Malaysia seems to be one of the few countries where a whole community is deemed to have special rights and privileges under the Constitution.<BR/><BR/>And when that is the case, you have 2 categories of Malaysians - one with special rights and one without. Let's not obfuscate or sugar-coat this point.<BR/><BR/>Now, if the Malaysian Constitution mandates that all Malaysians are equal before the law, then should such "equality" be qualified by an exemption clause for "special rights and privileges"?<BR/><BR/>The "social contract" may be a historical fact. But does it do anything to better position Malaysia in a globalised world?<BR/><BR/>As it stands, Malaysians are voting with their feet. As the size of the overseas Malaysian diaspora can testify to.<BR/><BR/>So, any number of Statements can be made by the powers that be, but any Malaysian with skills and talent can make a living outside of Malaysia. That is an inescapable fact of life. And to say that it should be good riddance to such people is to ignore the sweeps and flows of global economics and trade.<BR/><BR/>Take away the comfort zones when Malaysia gets into the nitty-gritty of WTO negotiations and free trade agreements (when the government cannot say that certain things are "non-negotiable") and let's see how how things turn out for the country.<BR/><BR/>Because even if Malaysia is the 19th largest exporter and 23rd largest importer of merchandise in the world and the 29th largest exporter and 30th largest importer of commercial services in the world (2006 rankings from the WTO website), there are plenty of countries out there who are willing to do what it takes to eat our lunch.<BR/><BR/>And "social contracts" and "special rights and privileges" will not protect us from such predators in the Darwinian world of globalisation.<BR/><BR/>Please refute my arguments, if you can. Let's see how sound is your grasp of basic principles of economics, trade, finance and the relentless hunt for skills and talent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-65678124716306864652008-10-19T10:50:00.000+08:002008-10-19T10:50:00.000+08:00To "sayapandai" ... or shall I say "notsopandai".T...To "sayapandai" ... or shall I say "notsopandai".<BR/><BR/>This is exactly the reaction (with your foul 4-letter explicits and racist remarks!) when you highlight something without highlighting the complete context of the statement of the Rulers.<BR/><BR/>Like someone said, it is a message to both sides and nothing personal against any particular race. The Rulers issued a statement "IN FULL" and not in bits and pieces. Read it and understand it before you emit any more foul language.<BR/>ylcwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-40321550470863327502008-10-19T08:46:00.000+08:002008-10-19T08:46:00.000+08:00hampa kalau tak boleh nak hormat raja2 melayu atau...hampa kalau tak boleh nak hormat raja2 melayu ataupun social contract agreed and signed by our forfathers, akurasa hampa memang tak layak jadi rakyat negara mi. baik la hampa pi cari negara lain.<BR/><BR/>malekAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-70001318884174549222008-10-19T08:02:00.000+08:002008-10-19T08:02:00.000+08:00Stop all this politicking..The rulers' statements ...Stop all this politicking..<BR/>The rulers' statements is to allay fears that there is nothing radical that can ever change and a warning to those who would Change or contest anything that is already in constitution.<BR/><BR/>So Malays cal allay fears of being challeneged, Or Islam being watered down.. Cos the Rulers are there to ensure its protection.<BR/><BR/>The Non-Malays can allay fears that their rights will be trampled.. Rulers will uphold their rights.<BR/><BR/>So stop the bloody politicking..!<BR/><BR/>Its a message to Both sides.!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com