tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post116222921766286512..comments2024-03-17T15:10:12.273+08:00Comments on rocky's bru: BRENDAN MEETS ALBOMRockybruhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08187242806213153913noreply@blogger.comBlogger71125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-57545975331368930182008-08-30T21:08:00.000+08:002008-08-30T21:08:00.000+08:00Okay, so today is 30 Aug 2008 - almost two years a...Okay, so today is 30 Aug <B>2008</B> - almost <I>two years</I> after this post.<BR/><BR/><I>But I have a good reason</I> for being so late - I was detained.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, this post "is still alive", what with the court case Rocky and Jeff Ooi are in.<BR/><BR/>All I want to say is; at least I'm now more aware of what the civil suit is all about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162670276443569232006-11-05T03:57:00.000+08:002006-11-05T03:57:00.000+08:00Pak LAh is a third world Prime Minister. Malaysia ...Pak LAh is a third world Prime Minister. Malaysia is a first world country among developing countries but with K mabuk running NST as Kluang said, what can we do now to stop the rot?<BR/>Taking the enemies of the Malays Brendan Prereira and Kalimullah to run down NST and the Malays must surely rank as treason to the Malays.<BR/><BR/>Pak Lah you are fired! <BR/><BR/>(Rocky's note: re-posted after a tiny amendment. originally left by Anon at 3.15 am)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162538799629597592006-11-03T15:26:00.000+08:002006-11-03T15:26:00.000+08:00plagiarism is not just about lifting someone else'...plagiarism is not just about lifting someone else's work verbatim without acknowledging the orinal author. it is also about the idea and how that very idea is worked along the very same line as the original work. <BR/><BR/>By both counts, Mr. Group Editor of NSTP must be found guilty of plagiarism. <BR/><BR/>The NSTP CEO in defence of his man, only displays the cockeyed sense of professional integrity prevailing among the top guns at the NSTP. The NSTP CEO states that detailed facts are different and ergo no plagiarism.<BR/><BR/> Wake up sir, if facts and ideas are identical as well as verbatim it is called a copy of the orginal work and no one can get away claiming it to be his/hers ala thick skin. <BR/><BR/> No wonder Tuan Syed the NSTP CEO could praise his Group Editor so sky high. His professed professional ethics would definitely allows him to do so most comfortably. <BR/><BR/>Lucky for Malaysian journalism we have journalists who uphold a different kind of professional ethics than those in the NSTP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162454592788561652006-11-02T16:03:00.000+08:002006-11-02T16:03:00.000+08:00You plagiarise words, you don't "plagiarise" a sty...You plagiarise words, you don't "plagiarise" a style. So, you can be faulted for plagiarising whole sentenses, but not necessarily be guitly of "plagiarising" ideas in the sentence.<BR/>Journalists are taught to emulate the best of the best. Of course, if the words echo those we emulate too much, then we must provide proper attribution.<BR/>If not, susahlah nak menulis, if you are required to be 100% original. No one can be like this all the time. <BR/>Case in point? JK Rowling emulates Enid Blyton. Ask anyone who has ever read "Secret Seven" or "Famous Five" and they will tell you of the many stylistic similarities between these and the Harry Potter series.<BR/>But far be it for people to accuse Rowling of "plagiarising".<BR/>So, yes, "copying" insofar as it involves emulating the style of the people whom you admire is completely acceptable. While you may come across as wholly unoriginal, it is not a crime.<BR/>And no, I am not Brendan Pereira.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162439913460429152006-11-02T11:58:00.000+08:002006-11-02T11:58:00.000+08:00sr215 said... Someone commented that she already a...sr215 said... <BR/>Someone commented that she already ashamed of being a Malaysian when Brendan is not Malaysian at all(?)<BR/>==================================<BR/><BR/>Brendan is a Malaysian who is also a Permanent Resident of Singapore.<BR/><BR/>Clever fella! In case things get too hot for him here, he can always flee to Singapore where, am sure, he is most welcomed.<BR/><BR/>So farsighted! Lol!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162435618001698512006-11-02T10:46:00.000+08:002006-11-02T10:46:00.000+08:00its timely that ASTRO is showing Shattered Glass, ...its timely that ASTRO is showing Shattered Glass, 19 November, Star moviesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162434692386021762006-11-02T10:31:00.000+08:002006-11-02T10:31:00.000+08:00Someone commented that she already ashamed of bein...Someone commented that she already ashamed of being a Malaysian when Brendan is not Malaysian at all(?)<BR/><BR/>If she's pointing her fact to the PM for letting Brendan running the NST, the article might be beyond his acknowledge.<BR/><BR/>Sorry if this is too harsh. Shed some light on me please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162431170161930882006-11-02T09:32:00.000+08:002006-11-02T09:32:00.000+08:00Just read about Brendan Plagiarist being replaced ...Just read about Brendan Plagiarist being replaced as Group Editor of NST wef 1 Jan 2007. Not sure if this is another Spin Tale by the oh-so-immature boys of NST who managed to put Malaysia through such shame, the report merely said Syed Nadzri will replace him as Group Editor. So is he getting the boot or is he being promoted/reassign to spin more tales for the likes of KJ or AAB or the anti-TDM crooks? I am not holding my breath to find out, just so you know! <BR/><BR/>Brother Rocky, I have the nasty misgiving that HALF BLIND, judging by the way he is defending the Plagiarist, IS ACTUALLY THE PLAGIARIST HIMSELF! Otherwise, I could not see how anyone could be as half blind (pun intended) as him! Do we still have any hope left?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162428124474318582006-11-02T08:42:00.000+08:002006-11-02T08:42:00.000+08:00eeks sorry for the mispelling of brendan throughou...eeks sorry for the mispelling of brendan throughout in my earlier comment. would hate to appear iggerant.<BR/><BR/>do you guys think that lifting the framework of a piece is as serious as lifting substance? i don't think i do ... but it still ain't right.bibliobibulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16456636355933524132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162424130412700442006-11-02T07:35:00.000+08:002006-11-02T07:35:00.000+08:00i find it amusing that half-blind [what a nick.. f...i find it amusing that half-blind [what a nick.. freudian?] came in complete with a scoffing tone, thinking to instruct rocky bru and other rb blog commentors on what is plagiarism, only to expose his own ignorance on what the term means. <BR/><BR/>what was that again... trying to lecture others here on "literary culture"? from the quality of your posts so far, you don't sound like someone who would be able to tell literary culture even if laser surgery restored your other sight.<BR/><BR/>what a patronising ar**hole! i suggest you do some self-appraisal with the remaining eye before posturing here again.<BR/><BR/>otoh, most fitting that someone as pathetic as you felt fit to come to the defence of that phony BP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162397063279783562006-11-02T00:04:00.000+08:002006-11-02T00:04:00.000+08:00it is quite clearly plagiarism. brendon took the ...it is quite clearly plagiarism. brendon took the framework of an article written by someone else and used it to support his own article.<BR/><BR/>if the article he had taken had been known to the wider malaysian public and if he had used it as a basis for a humourous or ironic piece which built in some sense on the original article, that would not have been plagiarism. (amir hafizi's very funny version <A HREF="http://amirhafizi.blogspot.com/2006/11/one-person-you-will-meet-in-hell.html" REL="nofollow">is satire </A> - we know what he's lampooning.) brendon just took and hoped no-one would notice. and perhaps the worst crime of all - the original piece is powerful and eloquent, while brendon's prose is laboured and earth-bound. <BR/><BR/>it's interesting to note that in several high profile cases of plagiarism in the US it has been bloggers who have unmasked the plagiarist! You can read about some of them <A HREF="http://www.famousplagiarists.com/journalism.htm" REL="nofollow">here</A><BR/><BR/>earlier in the year i unmasked a plagiarist writing for the malay mail. <A HREF="http://thebookaholic.blogspot.com/2005/09/cut-and-paste-review-murder-of-macbeth.html<br/>" REL="nofollow">see here</A> and <A HREF="http://thebookaholic.blogspot.com/2005/09/plagarised-reviews-shes-at-it-again.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>.<BR/>now that lady was a rookie compared to brendon.bibliobibulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16456636355933524132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162390710897772022006-11-01T22:18:00.000+08:002006-11-01T22:18:00.000+08:00half blind,brother/sister you are NOT HALF BLIND L...half blind,<BR/><BR/>brother/sister you are NOT HALF BLIND LA..TOTALLY BLIND LA..<BR/><BR/>so next time, a journalist just read The Times or etc...and then just rejig for local context la..like everybody also can write commentary la. just rejig ma...<BR/><BR/>bodoh, tak boleh la..that's called copyright theft la!!! <BR/><BR/>COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT IS THE RIGHT TERM. MITCH'S WORK IS PROTECTED BY COPYRIGHT LAW!! NST NOW IS LIABLE BCOS OF BRENDAN PEREIRA.<BR/><BR/>inspired ok..of course can...maybe if a bit longer also ok..like erm..a few years so NOT SO OBVIOUS...BUT SO OBVIOUS LA...so shy..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162376761855234222006-11-01T18:26:00.000+08:002006-11-01T18:26:00.000+08:00plagiarism n 1: a piece of writing that has be...plagiarism<BR/> n 1: a piece of writing that has been copied from someone else<BR/> and is presented as being your own work<BR/> 2: the act of plagiarizing; taking someone's words or ideas as<BR/> if they were your own [syn: plagiarization, plagiarisation,<BR/> piracy]<BR/><BR/><BR/>Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) <BR/><BR/>Plagiarism \Pla"gia*rism\, n. [Cf. F. plagiarisme.]<BR/> 1. The act or practice of plagiarizing.<BR/><BR/> 2. That which plagiarized.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Source: THE DEVIL'S DICTIONARY ((C)1911 Released April 15 1993) <BR/><BR/>PLAGIARISM, n. A literary coincidence compounded of a discreditable<BR/>priority and an honorable subsequence.<BR/>= = = = = = = = = = = = = <BR/>Maybe Half Blind has not had the proper reference to the description of the word PLAGIARISM.<BR/>So this may help.<BR/><BR/>I am certainly not a writer nor a journalist, but I think I can very well spot the 'uncanny similarity' in the works in question.<BR/><BR/>Neither do I comment because I am a friend to Rocky nor am I against NST. <BR/>But the fact remains, are these kinds of action the hallmark of a professional Journalist. Scratch that, an Editor, scratch that too...group editor?<BR/><BR/>I won't blame the many who felt cheated, and commented quite harshly against those in question, for I can almost feel the betrayal, whilst some even shared their experience of growing with the institution, NST, they cannot be faulted.<BR/><BR/>Simply put, it is rather quite telling of the capability of those at the helm!<BR/><BR/>This is a forum, one that is moderated by Rocky, if he chooses to blog on this , so be it.<BR/>As put forth by a previous comment, (sorry, not quite sure who)if you thinks the blog is too biased, go visit another!<BR/><BR/>I on the other hand find this blog rather therapeutic, as well as educational! (I haven't quite used Plagiarism that too many times before!)<BR/><BR/>Rocky, keep on blogging.Alliedmartsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10357969467864611310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162375543723280742006-11-01T18:05:00.000+08:002006-11-01T18:05:00.000+08:00Brendan Plagiara...Brendan Plagiara...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162366106056184372006-11-01T15:28:00.000+08:002006-11-01T15:28:00.000+08:00half blind,MA's article, to me, was a great piece ...half blind,<BR/><BR/>MA's article, to me, was a great piece of writing. <BR/><BR/>Writings such as this are like great works of art. Writers with their choice of words, structure and unique style. Painters with their palette. They all serve to inspire humanity. <BR/><BR/>In BP's hands, the Mona Lisa was hung up in a back alley whorehouse.shar101https://www.blogger.com/profile/13162891509015955835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162355190501642772006-11-01T12:26:00.000+08:002006-11-01T12:26:00.000+08:00answer for u half blind and read it out loud....QU...answer for u half blind and read it out loud....QUOTED from jeff ooi's blog by M. Krishnamoorthy, who co-wrote A Handbook for Journalists with press senior, P.C. Shivadas...at www.jeffooi.com<BR/><BR/>"There is an appendix on Ethics of Journalism on Page 163, with the lone-soul title: DON'T. Among other thing, it says:<BR/><BR/><BR/>1.Lie in print or on the air.<BR/><BR/>2.Suppress or omit opinion with which one disagrees.<BR/><BR/>3.Show favouritism or personal bias in one's reporting or writing.<BR/><BR/>4.Plagiarise someone else's words or ideas (journalists can use the words with attribution.)<BR/><BR/>5.Use one's position for personal gain. (e.g. accepting gifts from sourses etc.)<BR/><BR/>6.Do anything that may be construed as a "conflict of interest" (i.e. write political speeches for the candidate they are covering in an election etc.)"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162354209221092752006-11-01T12:10:00.000+08:002006-11-01T12:10:00.000+08:00Typo. I mean, "(without giving a LONG list of 'sou...Typo. I mean, "(without giving a LONG list of 'source')"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162354034072941852006-11-01T12:07:00.000+08:002006-11-01T12:07:00.000+08:00Some have argued that it's not plagiarism as such ...Some have argued that it's not plagiarism as such to 'mimick' or copy other writers' style so long as credit is given. That's nonsense. <BR/><BR/>If that was the rule, every sentence/paragraph written would have to be followed by "ala Dickens (in Bleak House, page 54, Penguin 1985 edition); Austen (in Pride and Prejudice, page 24, Penguin 1998 edition 2005 reprint); Woolf (To the Lighthouse, page 22...); Faulkner (The Sound and the Fury, page 69...); Hemingway (Old Man and the Sea, page 116...)<BR/><BR/>That's absurd, can't you guys see? <BR/><BR/>When they say that 'ideas' need to be acknowledged and credited, they mean SPECIFIC AND PARTICULAR theories and data/research such as Einstein's Theory of Relativity. Giving credit or acknowledgement to literary STYLES is NOT the same - you have the literary critics to do that, who analyse works of fiction and evaluate whether certain styles have been 'well applied/borrowed'.<BR/><BR/>In the literary world, it's VERY common to borrow the styles of other writers (without giving a lost list of 'source') - they do it ALL THE TIME!!<BR/><BR/>So, please don't spill your ink without familiarising yourself with what is meant by 'plagiarism' in the first place. To talk so loud without actually knowing what you are talking about is only to make a fool out of yourself and showing just how shallow the intellectual standard of Malaysian journalists are.<BR/><BR/>Loud, Empty Can - that applies to both Rocky (I'm sorry, bro) and Screenshot's Jeff Ooi (who has a nasty habit of CENSORING views which are critical of HIM PERSONALLY). Wise up, for the sake of your readers' maturity and for Malaysia's sake.<BR/><BR/>And to all of the commentators on this blog and Jeff Ooi's, who can't wait to follow the crowd to condemn 'plagiarism', see what the crowd mentality has done to you? Grow up.<BR/><BR/>p.s: Feel free to mock and ridicule the NST clowns/spin-doctors, because I'm no fan of them either. They have a very long way to go before they deserve to call themselves 'journalists'. But plagiariser? NAH.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162352560916541372006-11-01T11:42:00.000+08:002006-11-01T11:42:00.000+08:00I miss the time when the NUJ NST Chapter was a gre...I miss the time when the NUJ NST Chapter was a great force and demanded an explanation from the GE for wrongdoings.<BR/><BR/>I miss the colleagues sought answers from the GE's office.<BR/><BR/>I miss when the GE himself clarified the wrongs he had committed.<BR/><BR/>I miss when the GE hauled up a journalist who had plagiarised and sent him to the doghouse.<BR/><BR/>I miss when the GEIC showed his hand to discipline a subordinate.<BR/><BR/>I miss when the editorial floor stood strong and united against the GE's ofice.<BR/><BR/>I miss when a young reporter went up to the GE and asked him: :why did you do it? I have lost faith in journalism." The young reporter quit later in the evening.<BR/><BR/>But then, i miss everthing about the NST.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162351489971873322006-11-01T11:24:00.001+08:002006-11-01T11:24:00.001+08:00"Anonymous" and "P For Pervert": Thanks for the co..."Anonymous" and "P For Pervert": Thanks for the comments. I am also hoping that Mitch would response and may be even write to Penipu Brendan (I almost mispelt his name as Brenda, thinking that he might want to change his name after the blunder, lol.)himself. If he does response, I will be glad to share it with all you brothers out there! Anyone has Penipu Brenda's email? We should all write to "congratulate" him for sinking Malaysian journalism to such low ground!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162351484474429272006-11-01T11:24:00.000+08:002006-11-01T11:24:00.000+08:00Plagiarism is to call someone else's work your own...Plagiarism is to call someone else's work your own. Eg. I stole the research of Dr Lim Teck Ghee/ASLI on Bumi equity %, but I call it my own research. THAT'S PLAGIARISM.<BR/><BR/>But to copy or imitate someone else's style is NOT plagarism. If that were plagiarism, then ALL writers of literature today are, because many have copied or imitated the style and expressions of, or otherwise been heavily influenced by, the great literary giants like Dickens, Austen, Twain, Woolf, Faulkner, Hemingway... <BR/><BR/>I thought literary masters are recognised on the basis of the writers they have managed to INFLUENCE?? <BR/><BR/>Your (and Screenshot's) definition of Plagiarism could well destroy the literary culture as a whole. Watch out - don't let your personal vengence cloud your mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162347602090164702006-11-01T10:20:00.000+08:002006-11-01T10:20:00.000+08:00Anonymous who said this at 12.49am"Good grief! Eve...Anonymous who said this at 12.49am<BR/>"Good grief! Even this some people still want to blame Singapore. Hello??? NST mudslinging? How does that compare with other papers like The Sun? Or how about blogosphere? Ever checked out Rocky's Bru? Raja Petra? Or even Bakri Musa? NST is mild stuff compared to these blogs. Are these blogs on an anti-Malay drive as well?"<BR/><BR/>the answer is : YES, YES, YES, YES and lastly NO.<BR/><BR/><BR/>(you said ..."as well", going by your pitch, you had better check yourself.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162346027404281772006-11-01T09:53:00.000+08:002006-11-01T09:53:00.000+08:00wielmaja, please update us if you have any respons...wielmaja, <BR/><BR/>please update us if you have any response from mitch albom. <BR/><BR/>in malaysia, who do i complain this blatant plagiarism to? a thief is a criminal. in a K-economy, plagiarism or piracy is a big crime. i don't see why this cheat from NST should be allowed to write another lie for our children at schools to read. yes, NST sells paper to school kids, remember? this is akin to selling port at their tuck-shops. <BR/><BR/>Bru, as thePress CLub president, dont you have the authorities to write to NST bosses demanding action. spmeone has to stop this pervert! <BR/><BR/>yes, plagiarism is dirty. a sex pervert or serial rapist, in another life, would be a plagiarist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162327637982333512006-11-01T04:47:00.000+08:002006-11-01T04:47:00.000+08:00wielmaja said... "I just posted a comment to Mitch...wielmaja said... "I just posted a comment to Mitch:http://www.albom.com/contact.html "Congratulation, Mr Albom, for the well written article. It was so good that our nation's top newspaper, The News Straits Time, editor in chief deemed it fit to plagiarize, almost words for words for his column entitled: How dearly we miss June 6. For the first time, I am ashamed of being a Malaysian!"<BR/><BR/>Good job, wielmaja!<BR/><BR/>Next, let us alert as many other media worldwide as possible, starting with the ones in this region, about this shamelss plagiarism. Include both the links and the articles. <BR/><BR/>Let's make sure this miserable fake never calls himself or work as a journalist again. His paymaster can change his job title and description to something more in-keeping with what this POS does (i.e. spinning, buttlicking, demonising his betters and backstabbing Malaysia) if they still wish to keep him on their payroll.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1162318478314312822006-11-01T02:14:00.000+08:002006-11-01T02:14:00.000+08:00now wonder the piece sounded so familiar.. then i ...now wonder the piece sounded so familiar.. then i also hairan dgn tarikh tu sebab <BR/>sep 11 = internationally acknowledged date of a terrible AND more importantly HISTORIC terrorist attack bila i baca..june 6...i also blur tapi..anon (the first comment) cleverly pointed ou that yes IT IS ANOTHER SINISTER CODE...666Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com