tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post116055952349417901..comments2024-03-17T15:10:12.273+08:00Comments on rocky's bru: THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLYRockybruhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08187242806213153913noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160821268836867392006-10-14T18:21:00.000+08:002006-10-14T18:21:00.000+08:00The accountant has articulated with brilliance why...The accountant has articulated with brilliance why the original NEP works and why the Asli pretender doesn't.<BR/><BR/>i am absolutely convinced. So convinced that i am starting this tag-heuer stop watch to see how long the EPU will take to release its methodology that will demolish all other methodologies.<BR/><BR/>i also agree that before any idiot comes up with a new theory for anything, not just something so trite as the NEP, it's important to get the consensus of the very people who are sure to deny you their agreement - because the new theory may expose their old theory for what it is - landlordism.<BR/><BR/>Lastly, i agree that the NEP is for everyone. So let me tell that poor iban girl selling herself somewhere in KL that there's an NEP working for her and she better wakes up quick before all the goodies run out. And if she complains that she is disadvantaged, I shall tell her to accept it's fated that in this game of life, which referee comes first stays forever even if he uses rugby rules for soccer matches.<BR/><BR/>Bravo!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160806383032078042006-10-14T14:13:00.000+08:002006-10-14T14:13:00.000+08:00Sdr/Sdri:Let's not continue to be ignorant. To my ...Sdr/Sdri:<BR/><BR/>Let's not continue to be ignorant. To my non-Bumi countrymen and countrywomen, let's not stay in a state of denial longer than is good for you.<BR/><BR/>Firstly, lets not forget. The NEP is NOT for the Malay/Bumi; it is for all Malaysians. Why did the NEP come about? Let's not delve so much into history lest it re-opens old wounds but suffice to say that the NEP was created because a certain race was overwhelmed by the feeling that it was powerful enough to take over the throne of power in Malaysia. This led to the 1969 bloodbath. The resultant NEP was meant to safeguard all races and it has so far succeeded in doing that. <BR/><BR/>The NEP is a Malaysian miracle, my friends. It works.<BR/><BR/>What has probably stopped working are the micro bits of the NEP. The distribution of wealth within the race, for example, as ASLI points out (which is NOT new, i'm sorry to say and which is prevalent also within the chinese and especially the indian community, where the rich are getting richer and the poor stay poor). but we are believers in capitalism so we should have known what's coming (or are you all SOCIALISTS and COMMUNISTS still?).<BR/><BR/>now the 45% is a joke. why do i say it's a joke? because it is derived by using a different set of maths. it's not whether it's correct or not, the methodology used differed from the one used by the epu, which has been the basis of calculating the progress of the Bumi equity (which is a microcosm of the NEP and not the whole of the NEP, mind you).<BR/><BR/>now, let me use the football anology (since you all did not have any difficulty understanding the PM's warm-up-for-a-football-game anology):<BR/><BR/>IF asli wants to change the ground rules to the game, it must inform others of its intention and get a consensus. you don't play football with two referees and that's what asli was trying to do with its survey - it changed the way things are calculated. it simply walked onto the pitch with another whistle and appointed itself the second referee. The outcome? The second referee got booted out unceremoniously.<BR/><BR/>thank you for your time.<BR/>by using the methodology it adopted, asli was able to conclude thatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160781132274188212006-10-14T07:12:00.000+08:002006-10-14T07:12:00.000+08:00Yes, Rocky, how do you define Bumi equity? 30% 40%...Yes, Rocky, how do you define Bumi equity? 30% 40% 60% 99%?? <BR/><BR/>I think bumis who can stand on their own feet without crutches will be much respected. Most of those I know can but prefer crutches. Sad. Very sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160757196616964752006-10-14T00:33:00.000+08:002006-10-14T00:33:00.000+08:00If there is a percentage number that everybody can...If there is a percentage number that everybody can agree on, I reckon it must be 30% of disposable income for everyone.<BR/><BR/>Understanding statistical research ain't my cup of tea.<BR/><BR/>Politicising statistical results makes my head spin.<BR/><BR/>But in the next GE, I am voting out the greedy scums who has 70% disposable incomes.shar101https://www.blogger.com/profile/13162891509015955835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160749064255817512006-10-13T22:17:00.000+08:002006-10-13T22:17:00.000+08:00Dear RockyCan you enlighten us on this bumiputra c...Dear Rocky<BR/>Can you enlighten us on this bumiputra corporate equity ownership. How do you define it. Who are the real beneficiaries. Do the bumiputra masses receive any benefit. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160728206484525512006-10-13T16:30:00.000+08:002006-10-13T16:30:00.000+08:00rocky, shame on you,too.rocky, shame on you,too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160728168492237742006-10-13T16:29:00.000+08:002006-10-13T16:29:00.000+08:00pasquale..... what a shame, your command of the en...pasquale..... what a shame, your command of the english language suggests your privilaged education, but... all in vain. duck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160721968054357682006-10-13T14:46:00.000+08:002006-10-13T14:46:00.000+08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.hakkamuihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03050105634119507374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160721689348860202006-10-13T14:41:00.000+08:002006-10-13T14:41:00.000+08:00pasquale..... what a shame, your command of the en...pasquale..... what a shame, your command of the english language suggests your privilaged education, but... all in vain. fuck.hakkamuihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03050105634119507374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160718351002011062006-10-13T13:45:00.000+08:002006-10-13T13:45:00.000+08:00Some of you here never cease to amuse me. With a B...Some of you here never cease to amuse me. With a BUMI population of over 60 percent together with the NEP and all your so called 'Sons Of The Soil' rights, you can't even compete with the Non Bumi's economically. And you have the nerve to tell us it should be 65% instead of 30%?? You reap what you or your brothers sow sad to say. Without the NEP, today you people would be able to stand on your own feet, compete on a level playing field and not be so inferior everytime you're in the company of the Non Bumi's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160718025587347092006-10-13T13:40:00.000+08:002006-10-13T13:40:00.000+08:00Dear Pasquale,For your imformation, I am a Malaysi...Dear Pasquale,<BR/><BR/>For your imformation, I am a Malaysian Chinese. I hope you won't be offended by my feedback here.<BR/><BR/>As for your ? <BR/><BR/>"Why this Chinese-Malaysian scholar from CPPS had to resign and for the premier newspaper like NST had to splashed the story front page, baffled me!"<BR/><BR/>This is what we called INTEGRITY. He stand for what he said and believed in. Sadly, it is most lacking in our politicians.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160691546702004362006-10-13T06:19:00.000+08:002006-10-13T06:19:00.000+08:00Picked this up from kmu.net forum.----------------...Picked this up from kmu.net forum.<BR/><BR/>-----------------------------------<BR/><BR/>BigGuyDotCom said…<BR/><BR/>En Mirzan Mahathir, Presiden ASLI, sebenarnya berada diluar negara mengerjakan umrah semasa kenyataan ini dikeluarkan oleh Dr Lim, penyelidik berkenaan. En Mirzan dikatakan tidak tahu menahu tentang pengumuman kajian ini dibenarkan diterbitkan untuk pegunaan awam dan HANYA mengetahui mengenainya baru baru ini sahaja, sekembali dari luar negara. <BR/><BR/>Ini menampakan satu agenda yang menunjukan bahawa perkara ini disengajakan oleh pihak pihak tertentu, terutama apabila Mirzan keluar untuk ketanah haram dan penumpuan perjalanan itu semata mata untuk ibadat. Biasanya ditanah haram, orang tidak melayari internet dan/atau berhubung dengan pejabat sekerap perjalanan lain. <BR/><BR/>Soal Mirzan dan ASLI tunduk kepada desakan UMNO tidak timbul sama sekali kalau penyelidik yang menerbitkan kajian itu sebenarnya ada agenda lain dan mengunakan kesempatan itu sepenuhnya apabila Presiden ASLI keluar negara dan berada ditempat yang mereka sendiri sedar dia kurang akan dihubungi.<BR/><BR/>http://forum.mykmu.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=10103&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160679335489065552006-10-13T02:55:00.000+08:002006-10-13T02:55:00.000+08:00Bro,I dont know who to believe and trust anymore!'...Bro,<BR/><BR/>I dont know who to believe and trust anymore!<BR/><BR/>'perut anak adam lebih elok diisi dengan tanah'<BR/><BR/>Nothing cynical but one after the other since 1990's hingga sekarang<BR/>lepas satu-satu hal Malaysia ni!!<BR/><BR/>I give up dengan politic dunawi.<BR/><BR/>wassalam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160669655402525152006-10-13T00:14:00.000+08:002006-10-13T00:14:00.000+08:00Man, am I disillusioned... To be in a country that...Man, am I disillusioned... To be in a country that wastes its natural resources through policies like this. Now they are fighting for a larger slice of the pie. Havent you heard, if you just eat and do nothing, you won't have anything to fight for in 10 years! <BR/><BR/>Save Malaysia from these dummies please!! I love my country, and I'm not pendatang asing. I'm just an average Malaysian, wishing for better governance and transparency. I want to be able to earn a decent living provided that I work hard for it.<BR/>What is the meaning of life if you cannot earn a decent living even after working hard? Corruption in government is so bad now, it is an open secret that if you want to get paperwork through the government, you must give duit kopi. The police come by your factory doing daylight robbery, asking for 'protection money'. What is all this rubbish??? <BR/><BR/><BR/>Harapkan pagar, pagar makan padi. <BR/><BR/>It's time we, the ordinary citizens, should be waking up and take charge of our country, the way it should be all along. Keep this in mind, exercise your vote! <BR/><BR/>ps/Even though I dare say that they'll postpone the elections as long as possible, given the furore created over this issue. <BR/><BR/>People, use your power! The government represents its people. When it no longer does, then it's time for a change!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160667006280593292006-10-12T23:30:00.000+08:002006-10-12T23:30:00.000+08:00Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "THE...Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY": <BR/><BR/>I just like to say that the Non Malays in this country is ducked up.<BR/><BR/>This country will be ducked up too.<BR/><BR/>Time will tell.<BR/><BR/>To the Accountant,<BR/><BR/>It really doesn't matter if the Malays controls 65% or even 90% of the economy. If the Malays are able to generate that kind of economic activity through genuine economic activity, they should deserve it.<BR/><BR/>The issue is the government is lying the Malaysian on this statistic to continue having the justification to carry on NEP.<BR/><BR/>If you are a true Malaysian, you know NEP is not helping the country but preventing the country from growing at its true potential.<BR/><BR/>The world is not that simple as what you reasoned. You cannot say that just because your kind constitute 65% of the country's population, your kind should control 65% of the economy.<BR/><BR/>If things are that simple, the biggest economy in this world should not be the US followed by Japan. It should be China followed by India and so on. Indonesia with its population as big as the US should have an economy as big as the US.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately you the Malay accountant is unable to reason this. For the simple reason that you don't deserve to be an accountant at all. You are just one the product of the NEP that has no quality.<BR/><BR/>It just come out of the mentality that just because the Malays are 65% of the population, then 65% of the Accountants in this country must be Malays.<BR/><BR/>This is the mentality of our government. They are using this ratio on almost everything, including education.<BR/><BR/>That's why this country will be ducked up.<BR/><BR/>Non Malays, if you could see through this, you all know what to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160666847224256242006-10-12T23:27:00.000+08:002006-10-12T23:27:00.000+08:00keadilan man khalid talks sense. for once, somebod...keadilan man khalid talks sense. for once, somebody is rational about the whole thing. let's not get racial over the asli affair. let's sit together and try to find a solution instead of shouting and yelling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160666621860973272006-10-12T23:23:00.000+08:002006-10-12T23:23:00.000+08:00This 30% or 45% or 65% bumiputra equity ownership ...This 30% or 45% or 65% bumiputra equity ownership is not a measure of the success of the NEP. All the malays or bumis who supported this equity equation has been blinded by the UMNO propaganda and spins. They should ask who are the representatives of the Bumis who are enjoying this windfall.<BR/>You could actually put names to these gigolos.<BR/>1. Tan Sri Syed Mokhtar<BR/>2. Tan Sri Rozali <BR/>3. Tan Sri Razali<BR/>4. Tun Daim<BR/>5. Mirzan <BR/>6. Mokhzani<BR/>7. Mukriz<BR/>8. Kalimullah<BR/>9. Kamaluddin<BR/>10.Khairy<BR/>11.Tan Sri NAZA<BR/>12..............<BR/>The list continues to about 550 names. You all can add the names of others who are privy to the PINK FORMS<BR/>So the 30% or 65% are all going to be owned by them..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160650188567061382006-10-12T18:49:00.000+08:002006-10-12T18:49:00.000+08:00Clark Gable: "Your fight i believe is not with the...Clark Gable: "Your fight i believe is not with these poor folks,but to the 0.3% of 65% population who are UMNOputras and some with cables to hold.So appropriately direct your fight to them."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Agreed. But you too must fight UMNO and the UMNOputras also. Don't let them make public claims that they represent all the Malays. Otherwise, people will think what UMNO does is sanctioned by the Malays.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160650025981036132006-10-12T18:47:00.000+08:002006-10-12T18:47:00.000+08:00Accountant: "We Malays/Bumis make up 65 of the pop...Accountant: "We Malays/Bumis make up 65 of the population ...It should be, Sdr Rocky, without apologies, NOT LESS than 65 per cent!"<BR/><BR/><BR/>Don't you dare lump Orang Aslis and Borneo natives with the Malays! They resent/despise the Malays as much as the Chinese and Indians. And if you want 54% share (the estimated Malay pop percentage), you have to work for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160644415020763912006-10-12T17:13:00.000+08:002006-10-12T17:13:00.000+08:00It ceases to amaze me that so many of our leaders ...It ceases to amaze me that so many of our leaders can't hold a minimally decent intellectual discourse without resorting to threats and insults. What will the world think of us now?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160643270392275922006-10-12T16:54:00.000+08:002006-10-12T16:54:00.000+08:00Pasquale,Why you hate Chinaman so much lah? Go che...Pasquale,<BR/>Why you hate Chinaman so much lah? Go check2 lah and compare Chinaman companies and Bumi companies. See who pay their Bumi staff better. Many bumi companies exploit their bumi staff one. I admit some Chinamen very bad one and smelly. But manys are good and generous also.Sure will help you one if you in trouble and ask for help.I think you will also help poor apek Chinaman. Only UMNO and MCA don't help2 spontaneously. Sikit2 tolong, photos in paper must be very handsome one and cheques big2 one. Don no can bank in or not?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160640763814104312006-10-12T16:12:00.000+08:002006-10-12T16:12:00.000+08:00just want to say a little bit:the 45% part was equ...just want to say a little bit:<BR/><BR/>the 45% part was equity wealth held by a small segment of the malay population; the report did not say 45% was held by 45% of the malay population, so pasquales' logic has implied wrongly.<BR/><BR/>the 65% part as target because the malay/bumi population was 65% is also erroneous because the latest census shows 50.5% muslim bumis (=malays) and 11% non-muslim bumis; and to add, 50.5% muslim bumis does not have to mean 50.5% equity because 45% equity by the report has already included the GLCs, and could be bigger because some of the malays have used the non-malays as proxies.<BR/><BR/>lastly insisting on par-value means they want to get the share at opening price so that they can make a killing selling it for practically no value add from their side?<BR/><BR/>they just want a select group of malays, 3,000 and their associates, to get any pink form they want, sometimes using banks to loan them, and then liquidate for easy money.<BR/><BR/>you think such a race will survive for long?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160638309271527982006-10-12T15:31:00.000+08:002006-10-12T15:31:00.000+08:00I refer to "The Accountant""It should be, Sdr Rock...I refer to "The Accountant"<BR/><BR/>"It should be, Sdr Rocky, without apologies, NOT LESS than 65 per cent!"<BR/><BR/>I say why only 65 per cent. You should aim 99 per cent and do it with your own hardwork. Then I will salute you as a real "man". Otherwise even if you achieve 100 per cent not through level playing field. You are still handicapped and no body will respect you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160636595425118952006-10-12T15:03:00.000+08:002006-10-12T15:03:00.000+08:00Clark Gable Of Pulau Duyung signing in:If by ownin...Clark Gable Of Pulau Duyung signing in:<BR/><BR/>If by owning 45% wealth of a country whereby bumiputra constitutes 65% population is considered as a success , what would we called it if 54% wealth is owned by 18% population?<BR/><BR/>In other countries than would closely resemble absolute capitalism, but here in Malaysia thats called marginalization.<BR/><BR/>Now we have 18% of population arguing about the 45% thats not in their kitty ,pressing for more ,as it seems 54% wealth is shrinking from what was 60% before.<BR/><BR/>Dear 18% populations,<BR/><BR/>The gaping disparity between the have and have nots in 65% populations is real and in existence.They are not just a statistic numbers but hungry mouths and souls that need to be feed,schooled and housed.<BR/><BR/>Your fight i believe is not with these poor folks,but to the 0.3% of 65% population who are UMNOputras and some with cables to hold.So appropriately direct your fight to them.<BR/>I believe 0.3%(of 65%)managed to obtain billions ringgit worth of projects which subsequently 'Alibaba'ed to 18% populations to whom 18% gleefully accept without sounding a faint no or called for 'Down with ALIBABA,Down with ALIBABA'.<BR/><BR/>By not doing so, 18% loss the bragging right for their fights for the rights of the poor regardless of race!! Was it not your fight too when fellow countryman were hungry and starving? Turning the other cheek doesnot mean for you to deafened your ears to their sufferings too !!<BR/><BR/>Dear 18% again,<BR/>65% populations are obliging lots.18% population asked for a calf,they obliged and gave freely,this has been proven in history of our country.It was subsequently the knee,thigh and groin ...all given with all sincerity without undue concern.As 18% can see they are on sure road becoming like aborigines in Australia whereby the whole continent was sold.<BR/>Now that 18% claimed that the 'puki'(excuse the spanish,its the most private ,treasured,honor,family heirloom for the uninitiated )must be exposed as its their (18%)birthright to see and consumed.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately by this time 100% of 65% people would politely say 'fuckoff'(excuse the Trengganu dialect,Terengganu people can be unrefined at time)to all ungratefuls....certainly not the majority of 18%.<BR/><BR/>Ours is a rich country,enough for everybody ,just that welfare of the poor regardless of race must be look after.In our fight for these wealth its easy to trampled on the rights of these humble groups of people.All these fights would bury their rights to the realm of multidimensional intrepetation of statistic.The bunch of numbers that wont go hungry,doesnt need shelter and certainly wont cause a whimper.<BR/><BR/>Remember Katrina in New Orleans? Thats statistically speaking happening in the richest country in the world...some statistic!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28452020.post-1160636425543715232006-10-12T15:00:00.000+08:002006-10-12T15:00:00.000+08:00Rocky, We all know that large segments of the Mala...Rocky, <BR/><BR/>We all know that large segments of the Malay community is marginalised. From all outward appearances, you can see that the non-Malays, especially the Chinese, are better off economically than the Malays. So this is something that needs to be fixed.<BR/><BR/>However, don't dismiss the ASLI report out of hand. Find out for yourself before you form an opinion. <BR/><BR/>A doctor needs to have a correct diagnosis before he can cure the patient. If the current administration, applies the wrong medicine, this nation will not get anywhere. Not only that, if within the next 2-3 years all the money for the 9MP is spent and we don't improve our economy, things will really start to deteriorate. By then it will be too late.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com