The "Correction" we almost missed. Journalists and editors commit mistakes daily and their newspapers and tv carry corrections and apologies daily. As long as there's no malice intended, it's alright. When you rush for daily deadlines 24/7, you are bound to err.
There are mistakes which we consider "unforgiveable" because they involve carelessness and even recklessness. And when the issue is as sensitive as "Ketuanan Melayu", you can't blae readers if they think some editors or journalists may have their own hidden agenda to promote by making such mistakes.
The "Correction" is small, buried at the bottom of Page 2 on a long-weekend's Sunday edition of the paper, but it's there. What I would like to know is who was responsible for the boo-boo ... or was it deliberate?
The "mistake" on March 6. Read full article, and the original full speech delivered by the Raja Perlis, here.
And somebody please tell this blogger that he got inspired over a mistake, so sue NST!
Wednesday, March 11, 2009
Putting words in the Ruler's mouth
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whats blae? to err is human.
ReplyDeleteBiasa lah rocky.. NST kan ada agenda sendiri.. THE SINGAPORE's AGENDA.
ReplyDeleteWHAT IS HISHAMUDDIN AUN DOING?
TIDOR KA?
ZORRO JUST LIKES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION. AFTER WRITING FLOWERY TRIBUTE THE RAJA PERLIS, HOW IS HE GONNA WRITE ABOUT HIS MAJESTY NOW?
ZORRO ZORRO ..... HOHOHOHO MERRY CHRISTMAS ZORRO!
zorro unplugged
Ah, you have picked up another 'bone' against NST which is suing you.
ReplyDeleteYou decide lah how you want to chew up the guys who erred in NST.
You are now adult - so do it yourself lah.
And kalau ada masa, ponder over the following articles:
1: THE STAR
Banning use of word solves nothing
I AM deeply concerned after reading that fatwas had been issued in several states banning the use of the word Allah in all non-Muslim articles.
This is a dangerous precedent. I am given to understand that fatwas only apply to Muslims and are not to be used as a ruling on non-Muslims, too.
Furthermore, this issue is currently before the courts.
I understand the worry that usage of the word Allah by non-Muslims may confuse Muslim children, but the issue must not be settled by emotion and suspicion.
There are thousands of people in Malaysia who are Christians who speak only Malay, and they have used “Allah” to refer to God for generations.
I believe clarity of issues comes with clear teachings and not from banning this and that.
The more things are banned, the more people will be curious to find out. With the Internet, we cannot stop anyone from knowing anything they want to.
RON,
Kuala Lumpur.
2: http://kadayanjournal.com/?p=877
Its Malay who poorly understood word Allah
Hj Ramlee Dua, Kadayan Journal
This issue of ALLAH being monopolised by Islam and Muslims is testimony to the poor understanding by some Malays of the world around them.
Their argument that the use of ALLAH by Christians could lead to confusion and loss of akidah by Muslims is a slap in the face to Muslims themselves. It would be akin to the Malay proverb “he who spits into the sky will have the spittle falling on his face” applies aptly here.
Let me mention what I know about the history of God, specifically ALLAH for those who may not be aware of this issue.
Ancient Arabs had many gods. The Kaabah in Makkah contained many idols, which were worshipped by people of the Arabian Peninsula for centuries. ALLAH was the chief god out of numerous gods.
The concept of a monoestic religion, which worshipped only one single god probably, came during the time of Moses. The Jews were among the first to incorporate this belief into Judaism. The holy book, the Torah (or Taurat) specifically mentioned only Yah-weh as the only God.
Christianity similarly preached the belief in a single god, although the concept of the holy trinity (god, the father, the son and the holy spirit) is all but the one god.
The single most glaring difference between Christian belief and Islam would be that Jesus Christ, worshipped as god by Christians, but is regarded as a prophet Isa Al-Maseh by Muslims.
In all three major monoestic religions that sprang out of the Middle East, the Old Testament is very similar in content and message to humans. The basic concept in these religions has always been the belief in only a single god.
The shift from believing in numerous gods into just one probably took decades. We learnt in religious classes that even at the time of Muhammad, the Kaabah still contained many idols. The people of Makkah did not take kindly to Muhammad and his new ideas. They were very much prepared to destroy Muhammad and his followers if they persisted in wanting to change the religious status quo. This led to the Hijrah-journey to Medina by Muhammad and his followers.
As we Muslims all learnt, Muhammad returned to Makkah triumphant and one of the first things he did when he arrived into the place of his birth was to circumambulate anticlockwise around the Kaabah seven times. This later became a compulsory ritual for Muslims from the world over when they arrive at Makkah for the Haj.
To put it simply, ALLAH was very much an Arabic term for god. Since he was the chief of all the gods worshipped then, the arrival and acceptance of a single god meant that other lesser gods disappeared from existence and later from the minds of people.
This concept of a supreme being called ALLAH is the basis of Islamic belief. Islam in Arabic simply means to submit. It would not be tenable for followers of this new religion to submit to many gods for that would be confusing (which of the many gods should they submit more to?).
The return of Muhammad to Makkah was tantamount to a victory of this new faith. Idols kept inside the Kaabah was removed and the building emptied. ALLAH became the all-seeing but invisible god. The Kaabah did not become the central focus of Islam immediately, however. When early Muslims gathered for prayers they faced Jerusalem. It was only later; when politics between the Jews, Christians and Muslims grew intense and seemed to be heading to a point of no return did Muhammad urge his followers to face the Kaabah when performing prayers. Muhammad had no enmity towards the Jews and Christians but found difficulties in convincing them that his preaching came from the same god.
The central tenet of the Islamic faith is the belief in ALLAH as the only god. The first pillar of Islam is the utterance “I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is his messenger”. A Muslim would utter this sentence several million times in his life until he dies.
Therefore the concept of ALLAH being a monopoly of Muslims is what the issue we face in Malaysia today. It would seem that there is a fear that if Muslims were to stray from this important tenet, the religion will collapse. To allow Christians, Sikhs and followers of other religions to use ALLAH to mean their gods would seriously undermine what Muslims have struggled so hard to hold and believe in for the past 1400 years.
Obviously some Muslims cannot see the forest for the trees. They are much larger issues confronting Muslims that need to be addressed.
After more than 50 years of independence and more than 30 years of the New Economic Policy, why are the Muslims in Malaysia still fully dependent on non-Muslims for their daily survival?
The ulamaks who preach about the greatness of the religion do so using loudspeakers made in Japan, wears underwear made in China, reads his sermon from paper made by Germans, uses reading glasses made by Americans, goes to Makkah in a plane made in France.
ANOTHER MALAYSIAN
Bro,
ReplyDeleteUsually a mistake is just one word, a couple of words, a wrong name or a wrong picture. But this is paragraphs and paragraphs of mistakes bro. Was it a real mistake?
Here are some pertinent paragraphs that were reported. I am just curious:
1. The Raja of Perlis, Tuanku Syed Sirajuddin Putra Syed Jamalullail, yesterday took to task those propounding the "ketuanan Melayu" (Malay supremacy) policy, accusing them of using "narrow-minded ways to achieve personal objectives".
He said every Malaysian, irrespective of age, gender, social status or religion, enjoyed equal rights.
Bro, this is more than one or two words. The Editor must have seen this.
2. The ruler said some Malaysians were making a big issue of the "ketuanan Melayu" issue and asking that supremacy or rights be given only to a particular race.
"It is very unfortunate to see these self-interested parties raising sensitive issues which could dampen the spirits and hopes of millions of people. In Malaysia, every race is tuan," he said in his speech at the launching of a seminar on the Federal Constitution here.
Bro, so did the Raja say 'in M'sia every race is tuan' or he did not say it? If he did not say it, how could the reporter 'mistakenly' conjure up so many words?
Bro I am interested in this one para :
"The Raja of Perlis said the role of the Malay royalty should be upheld as they had played the most significant role in defending the rights of the people."
The most significant role in defending the rights of the people.
GEMPAR ! ANWAR PERANGKAP PAKLAH BERTEMU DENGAN KETUA AJARAN SESAT DI HULU LANGAT!
ReplyDeletePERKARA 1
salam untuk semua sahabat bloger dan pembaca. apa yang gap akan dedahkan ini merupakan satu bukti sahih dan benar,perancangan jahat anwar untuk melakukan apa sahaja cara untuk menyesatkan umat islam di malaysia.
sebelum ini kita umat islam telah banyak didedahkan akan beberapa sikap liberal dan munafiknya anwar bin ibrahim memperkuda/merosakkan islam demi mengejar cita-citanya kemaruk kuasa untuk menjadi perdana menteri.
anwar bin ibrahim pernah menyanjungi salman rushdie dalam komentarnya memuji buku satanic verses, anwar bin ibrahim tidak pernah menyatakan BANTAHAN dalam persoalan murtad lina joy, hudud yang selama ini diperjuangkan oleh parti pas kini sudah menjadi bahan cacian karpal singh, kumpulan artikel 11 dan pejuang-pejuang IFC ( INTER FAITH COMISSION) kini sudah kembali 'bertenaga dan bersemangat' setelah anwar secara komited memberikan HARAPAN BARU untuk mereka menyamarata kan hak ISLAM DAN BUKAN ISLAM.
ini adalah beberapa contoh betapa 'terdesaknya' anwar bin ibrahim untuk 'mengejar saki baki masa' yang ada untuk MEROSAKKAN SECARA TOTAL HAK AGAMA DA BANGSA DEMI MEMENUHI TUNTUTAN NAFSU UNTUK BERKUASA MENJADI PERDANA MENTERI KE 6.
dalam keadaan yang cukup menyesakkan nafas anwar ini, hari ini kita telah digemparkan dengan cerita dan gambar pertemuan anwar dan paklah di hulu langat. anwar bin ibrahim adalah pengamal kaedah 'political animal' . kepala munafik ini sanggup bersekongkol dengan sesiapa sahaja untuk memerangkap musuh politiknya, walaupun dengan menggunakan kaedah agama.
hari ini anwar telah memerangkap paklah untuk bertemu dengan seorang tua bernama mahmud bin hj abd rahman (pengasas ajaran aurad ismailiah) yang telah difatwakan sebagai SESAT oleh bekas mufti negeri selangor, almarhum dato' ishak baharom. orang tua ini telah dijadikan medium perantaraan untuk anwar bertemu dengan paklah dan digunakan sebagai 'agenda pemula' anwar untuk kembali menjadi pejuang islam dan ikon perpaduan melayu. sayang perangkap anwar bin ibrahim ini TELAH DAPAT PIHAK KAMI KESAN.
sila baca 2 perkara dibawah sebagai rujukan. gap mohon kepada anda semua baik dari pihak bloger dan pembaca untuk MENYEBARKAN BERITA GEMPAR INI kepada seluruh umat islam di malaysia. sebarkan ia melalui rangkaian blog,website BN dan PEMBANGKANG, email dll cara supaya berita ini sampai.
AYUH DEMI ISLAM,BAIK UMNO,PAS,PKR SILA SELAMATKAN AKIDAH ANDA ! KITA TOLAK PERBEZAAN POLITIK DALAM HAL PENTING INI ! SELAMATKAN AKIDAH KITA DARIPADA DI SESATKAN OLEH ANWAR BIN IBRAHIM !
PERKARA 2
INI ADALAH SALINAN FATWA DARI ALMARHUM DATO' ISHAK BAHAROM YANG TELAH MENGISTIHARKAN AJARAN ISMAILIAH YANG DIBAWA OLEH MAHMUD BIN HAJI ABD RAHMAN ADALAH SESAT !
NEGERI SELANGOR
Warta Kerajaan
DITERBITKAN DENGAN KUASA
GOVERNMENT OF SELANGOR GAZZETE
PUBLISHED BY AUTHORITY
Jil. 48
23hb November 1995
TAMBAHAN No. 23
No. 24
PERUNDANGAN
Sel. P.U 48.
ENAKMEN PENTADBIRAN PERUNDANGAN ISLAM 1989
FATWA TENTANG AURAD ISMAILIAH AJARAN MAHMUD BIN HAJI ABD RAHMAN
En. 2 / 1989
PADA menjalankan kuasa yang diberi oleh subseksyen 31(1) dan seksyen 32 Enakmen Pentadbiran Perundangan Islam 1989, Mufti bagi Negeri Selangor, selepas berbincang dengan Jawatankuasa Perunding Hukum Syara' membuat fatwa seperti yang dinyatakan dalam Jadual.
ADMINISTRATION OF ISLAMIC LAW ENACTMENT 1989
FATWA ON AURAD ISMAILIAH AJARAN MAHMUD BIN HAJI ABD RAHMAN
En. 2 / 1989
IN exercise of the powers conferred by subsection 31(1) and section 32 of the Administration of Islamic Law Enactment 1989 the Mufti for the State of Selangor, after discussion with the Islamic Legal Consultative Committee, makes the fatwa as specified in Schedule.
JADUAL/ SCHEDULE
( 1 )
Ajaran Aurad Ismailiah yang diajar oleh Mahmud bin Abd.Rahman didapati menyeleweng daripada ajaran Islam yang sebenar. Oleh yang demikian, umat Islam dilarang mengamalkan ajaran itu.
( 2 )
Orang-orang Islam yang telah menerima ijazah dan mengamalkan Aurad Ismailiah yang diajar oleh Mahmud bin Abd.Rahman di mana-mana jua berada hendaklah meninggalkan dan segera bertaubat serta memohon keampunan kepada ALLAH Subhanahu Wata'alla.
Dibuat pada 25hb Oktober 1995
Made the 25th October 1995.[JAI.Sel.8014/7 Jilid IV; P.U.Sel.AGM/0007.]
DATO' HAJI ISHAK BIN HAJI BAHAROM
Mufti Negeri Selangor
PERKARA 3
INI ADALAH ARTIKEL YANG DIPETIK DARI BLOG MSO BERKENAAN DENGAN PERTEMUAN DAN PERANCANGAN JAHAT ANWAR IBRAHIM UNTUK MENYESATKAN PAKLAH/UMNO SERTA SELURUH UMAT MELAYU !
TIGA jam sebelum Menteri Kewangan, Mohd Najib Razak membentangkan bajet mininya di Parlimen jam 4:00 petang ini, berlangsung satu peristiwa diluar jangka yang penuh tandatanya, iaini Perdana Menteri, Abdullah Ahmad Badawi duduk serumah dan makan tengah hari bersama Anwar Ibrahim.
Peristiwa bersejarah ini berlaku di Madrasah Nurul Iman, Hulu Langat, Selangor. Abdullah dan Anwar sama-sama hadir pada majlis sambutan Maulid Rasul dan Sambutan Tamat Latihan Kerohanian 40 tahun Syeikh Mahmud Al-Majzub, dan menjadi tetamu kehormat mundir madrasah berkenaan.
Kehadiran Anwar hari ini memang dinanti-nantikan oleh kira-kira 1,000 hadirin dan para jemputan termasuk para ulama dari Asia Tenggara, sebaliknya kedatangan Abdullah secara tiba-tiba itu benar-benar mengejutkan dan di luar jangka.
Abdullah dijangka hadir ke madrasah berkenaan esok untuk merasmi persidangan dan pertemuan para ulama. Kehadiran Abdullah lewat tengah hari ini menjadi tanda tanya sebab pada waktu sama jemputan khasnya ialah Anwar Ibrahim.
Abdullah tiba lebih awal dari Anwar, iaitu jam 12:18 tengah hari manakala Anwar bersama isterinya, Wan Azizah Ismail tiba kira-kira 20 minit kemudian.
Kedua mereka dibawa naik ke rumah Syeikh Mahmud untuk makan tengah hari sama-sama.Abdullah dan Anwar berada di dalam rumah berkenaan lebih 1 jam setengah. Mereka keluar dari rumah berkenaan untuk mendirikan solat Zohor bersama jam 1:40 petang.
Difahamkan semasa di dalam rumah Syeikh Mahmud, pertemuan enam biji mata berlangsung antara Abdullah, Anwar dan Syeikh Mahmud. Satu perundingan juga dikatakan berlaku dengan Syeikh Mahmud menjadi perantaranya!
Semasa mendirikan solat Zohor kedua mereka duduk di saf pertama di mana Abdullah berada di sebelah kanan, Syeikh Mahmud manakala Anwar berada di sebelah kiri Syeikh Mahmud.Selepas solat Zohor, Abdullah diminta memberi ucapan ringkas begitu juga Anwar bagaimana pun Anwar tidak berucap.
Dalam ucapannya Abdullah menjelaskan sesuatu yang baik itu kalau didoakan ia akan menjadi kenyataan. Selepas selesai solat Zohor dan ucapan ringkas kelihatan Abdullah dan Anwar bersalaman dan masing-masing melemparkan senyum.
Pertemuan dan gelagat kedua pemimpin itu benar-benar mengejutkan para hadirin dan jemaah. Masing-masing tertanya-tanya dengan peristiwa berkenaan kerana ianya dikatakan bukan dirancang oleh sesiapa tetapi mempamerkan keadaan yang sungguh menyenangkan orang ramai.
Orang ramai begitu bangga dan puas dengan pertemuan kedua mereka yang dilihat sebagai bermusuhan selama ini dan diharap dapat berdamai untuk kebaikan negara, bangsa dan agama.
“Apa yang berlaku hari ini adalah sejarah, dan kita harap ianya jadi!” begitulah komen salah seorang ahli jawatankuasa madrasah berkenaan enggan menjawab apakah kedatangan kedua mereka sudah dirancang dan apakah yang dimaksudkan 'jadi' itu?
Abdullah meninggalkan madrasah berkenaan kira-kira jam 2:15 minit petang manakala Anwar jam 2:50 petang kedua-duanya dijangka menuju ke Parlimen untuk mendengar pembentangan bajet mini oleh Najib.
KOMEN SAYA:
LIHATLAH SAUDARA SEISLAMKU BETAPA DAJJALNYA MANUSIA YANG BERNAMA ANWAR BIN IBRAHIM INI....DEMI CITA-CITA POLITIK AGAMA PUN DIPERDAGANKANNYA...ASTAGFIRULLAH...YA ALLAH YA TUHANKU, KAU SELAMATKANLAH UMAT ISLAM DI BUMI MALAYSIA INI DARI MANUSIA YANG BERNAMA ANWAR BIN IBRAHIM INI....
http://parpukari.blogspot.com/
Oh my. I hope heads will not LOL over this mistake.
ReplyDeleteHey Rocks, why cant you tell him yourself, why must we do your bidding??? Don't you have his contact details anymore? After all he is still good mates with your lawyer.
ReplyDeleteFor you to realise what he wrote, you must still be reading Zorro Unmasked with great enthusiasm. Wonder why?
I note you still have his blog details on your blogroll - or is that a long overdue oversight on your part, since he removed yours yonks ago!!!
Anonymously Anon
Once again, it's been proven that if it's too good to be true, it probably is.
ReplyDeleteIs someone going to be in hot soup then for this mistake or is it going to be swept under the carpet?
ReplyDeleteThere are so many nyamuk around. When the Sultan says something that they interpret to be coherent with their position, they support. Whenever, the Sultan says somting that is against their standing, the spin or insinuate such that Sultan is being brought over for contracts.
ReplyDeleteDitto, with regard to Mufti's statements, and even the judges. When the Court rules in their favour, the judge is fair and good. But, if the judgment is against them, then insinuation and slander would be the order of the day.
So, what ever that serves them to put wools over readers eyes. Truth is what they make of it.
MRSM Kalae Chepo 66/73
I m not reading that sinile ole fart blogger.
ReplyDeleteHis political perspective is as naive as a five year old. He knows nuts. Go tend to his grandchildren then loiter around in politics.
Remembered him seeking Raja Nazrin to be PM and quickly recall back when he start to balance back in accordance with the Constitution.
Equal rights for all Malaysians regardless of race or religion. Is that a problem with you brother?
ReplyDeleteBrunt Council,
ReplyDeleteDitto to you too.
Rocky,
What are you trying to say? Ketuanan melayu's here to stay. All hail UMNO. Only UMNO can save the country
Sorry, don't have time to read. By the way, UMNO antics are so domineering that Brunei never join Malaysia. Hmm.....Sultan Bolkiah, melayu kan........
Whether it is intentional or otherwise, the Malays should put the concept of "Ketuanan Melayu" in a different perspective.
ReplyDeleteI believe that "Ketuanan Melayu" is not about being supreme over other ethnic origin but being supreme in itself. Meaning the Malays cannot remain being the people that always depend on government for jobs or contracts; but by being a self-reliant, forward-thinking, innovative and progressive lot. Ketuanan Melayu is ready for change and will embrace change whole-heartedly. Ketuanan Melayu is not being petty but has a global view. Ketuanan Melayu is all about being the best.
Concept of Ketuanan Melayu does not include being a racist and complacent.
In politics, Ketuanan Melayu means you have to be a Statesman not a lousy politician!
Rocky,
ReplyDeleteWhy did Pak Lah meet Anwar yesterday?
That historic meeting is not covered that much.
Pictures here. http://msomelayu.blogspot.com/
Curious Joe
So, what exactly did the Sultan say? That Malaysians don't have equal rights? And that "Ketuanan Melayu" cannot be construed as "equal rights for all Malaysians"?
ReplyDeleteBe careful. Loose translations will do more harm than good.
Anyway, all this may be academic. The ongoing recession will not discriminate on the basis of race or religion.
Rocky,
ReplyDeleteNST has some 'hidden agenda' in their posting, especially in the recent wake arising from controversies, starting from the prematured dismissal of DAP-puppet MB Nizar Jamaluddin and appointment of Lumut ADUN Dato Dr Zambry Abd Kadir as the 10th Perak MB.
Please refer to my take 7 March 2009 on how 'Ketuanan Melayu' should be taken from the Federal Constitution perspective and spirit.
Some people tend to be swayers.
ReplyDeleteSome sway 'to look good'.
Some sway to be fashionable.
Some sway to confuse.
The Royalties are trying to get a subtle message through the thick brick headed snakes, and yet they don't get it.
A GOOD MAN DOES NOTHING.
Where got equal right?
ReplyDeleteIf you insist in speaking and writing using national language of People's Republic of China or the state language of Tamil Nadu, then it will be difficult to have equal rights.
Badan sahaja di Malaysia tapi hati di China/Tamil Nadu.
So don't dream of fighting for Malaysian Malaysia.
mELAKAmARI
I frankly do not trust all the UMNO appointed Secretaries to the Rulers. We know what agenda they have and where their real loyalties lie!
ReplyDeleteLet's hear directly from the horse's mouth. Let HRH Sultan of Perlis come out and tell it like it is!
And Brunt Council, FO to you too! There's no need to indulge in abusive language about Zorro. Just state your views objectively and keep it civil!
http://donplaypuks.blogspot.com
hey rocky, how come you don't tell the blogger yourself?
ReplyDeletewow. i thought it was too good to be true. turns out so...
ReplyDeleteBaresheen said:
ReplyDelete"Equal rights for all Malaysians regardless of race or religion. Is that a problem with you brother?"
Sure, brother.
How about:
Equal wealth for all Malaysians regardless of race or religion. Is that a problem with you brother?
yep - back to reality.
ReplyDeleteNo equal rights for the chinaman.
No equal rights for the indian man.
I am okay with that. Just reality.
The quicker i accept reality the better i can cope come 1-april-09 lest the najis hits my ceiling fan.
Pak Janggut
zorro unplugged
ReplyDelete12:01 PM
zorro is the second sidekick to RPK after Harris. Their jobs, just to whack Najib at ALL cost. Dun believe , peep into their postings. All sponsored or inspired by drama king and demo crazy Anwar Ibrahim.
They cant trick Najib but they are successful with Badawi. Now you why Anwar is damn worry that Najib be the PM. No more dead meat like Pak Lah for them to chew.
http://barkingmagpie.blogspot.com/2009/03/pak-lah-was-tricked-into-attending.html
Wednesday, March 11, 2009
Pak Lah was tricked into attending a religious function.....one day earlier!
And he wasn't told YB BABI was coming too!
One of the PM's aides also said "hogwash" when asked whether if there was indeed a pact between Pak Lah, the outgoing PM, and with opposition leader YB BABI!
"No way, my boss, a decent man, he is ready to leave and give it to Najib. He was definitely tricked into coming a day earlier to this religious function in Hulu Langat and he was equally shocked to see Anwar Ibrahim and his wife at the same function," said this aide.
What's wrong with 'Malay Supremacy' in MALAYsia? Similarly, what's wrong with 'White Supremacy' in England? Or 'Chinese Supremacy' in Taiwan or 'Indian Supremacy' in India?
ReplyDeleteCan someone tell?
HGJ
Errrrr.... So what did the Raja Perlis actually say? And what did he mean?
ReplyDeleteSo will someone step up and clarify things?
Rocky, I would like to refer to one of the earlier comments on usage of Allah by Malay speaking Christians.This has been the excuse used by many quarters for this right.
ReplyDeleteAs we all know Allah is an arabic word and Tuhan is a Malay word. I don't understand why Malay Speaking Christians can't use the word Tuhan instead, which would not provoke anyone at all. As a liberal malay KLite, it puzzles even myself why something so sacred is being contested when a clear sensible alternative is available.
I do hope you discuss this.
- a disappointed malay boy
Rocky could you please post the corrected version or the original in BM?
ReplyDeleteThanks
Rocky, those days the big boss will have to go for sure over a cock-up especially misquoting a ruler. But today NST is rules by Pakatan Rakyat sympathizers and mercenaries and also a bunch on non-Malay-Muslim mamak of South Indian origin so what do the Malays expect?
ReplyDeleteI believe Hishamuddin Aun must go and his contract until 2012 be rescinded, or revoked, and a good time to do it also! Time for the empire to strikes back!
Rocky,
ReplyDeleteaccording to the translated text the Raja of Perlis said "I would like to emphasise that all citizens, irrespective of race, are masters of this country.
This is from Berita Harian:
"Bagi saya, setiap rakyat tanpa mengira kaum adalah tuan di negara ini dan mereka bebas menganuti serta mengamalkan apa juga agama yang mereka percayai, dengan syarat tidak menyinggung agama lain. "
Master is tuan, right? So what's your point? His Majesty did say "setiap rakyat adalah tuan di negara ini."
And somebody please tell this blogger that he got inspired over a mistake, so sue NST!
ReplyDeleteDo i detect a note of gloating glee from rocky?
Tsk, tsk.
Most unbecoming, I think.
-Silence is Golden -
God is all for equal rights but then there are people who love to preach otherwise as well as happily practising it ...what can we do? God normally keeps such people "very very poor" in material wealth as well as in spirit.
ReplyDeleteFearful of the Wrath of God
Sad indeed..it's just a classic case of denied orgasm for these people.. its normal for someone at the age like zorro easily get sexually aroused and end up dysnfuctional.. :D hahaha...
ReplyDeleteDo these people think they deserve equal right? Don't want to be part of the majority & yet yelling about minority right..
They should ask themselves and buy a mirror..bunch of annoying & irritating idiots..
ANOTHER MALAYSIAN
After more than 50 years of independence and more than 30 years of the New Economic Policy, why are the Muslims in Malaysia still fully dependent on non-Muslims for their daily survival?
Wow..smart ass..u seem to be very smart to re-define the economy..it just take one to tango, eh?..
seller don't need buyer..employer don't need employee.. sub-con don't need main-con..?
I'm not surprised about this kind of thinking..plenty more of these from where this idiot get his early education from...
Other than commenting about Islam with deep shit knowledge & facts.. kindly explain the confusion & misguided facts in your own bible here about the concept of one God -
With these..do you still think you people deserve to bear with His Name after all the corruption? Let the ball roll..:
[The Bible, Mark 12:29] “Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord.”
[The Bible, Isaiah 43:11] “I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.“
[The Bible, Exodus 20:3-5 & Book of Deuteronomy 5:7-9] “Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God.“
[The Bible, Isaiah 45:5] I am Lord, and there is none else, there is no God besides me.”
[The Bible, Mark 10:18]"Why do you call me good? answered Jesus, No-one is good but God alone!"
[Matthew 5:17-19]"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but rather to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until Heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of the pen; will by any means disappear from the Law until all things are accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever keeps the commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven."
[Matthew 7:21-23]"Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the Will of the Father who is in Heaven. Many will say to me on the day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles? Then I will tell them plainly, I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!"
[John 20:31]
"The Messiah, the Son of God."
[Luke 3:38]"Enos was the son of Seth, and Seth was the son of Adam, and Adam was the son of God."
(Jesus is son of God..Adam also the Son of God? I thought Allah do not have son..wow..how truly confusing.. why you people do not worship Adam..which is which?)
Explain..explain..
:D muhahhaha
-anti hindraf & ultra chingkies-
Amir, didnt realise how racist you were!
ReplyDeleteBut it's good, at least now u r revealing it. U seriosuly think you're smart and funny.
Think again, bro!
Well there is some truth to the supposedly mistaken comment.Indeed there has been thoose who are using ketuanan melayu to gain political support,as it works well to racist people who's colour is brown when we must be colour blind.Anyway it doesn't matter as the ketuanan melayu concept born in the 1940's to fight the Malayan Union threat is outdated and will be replace by ketuanan rakyat because the concept of ketuanan melayu had been missuse by UMNO so that they could continue giving up big contacts to UMNOputera who is of course Malays but sidelining other Malays.The Malays as a whole is a rakyat so will benefit from ketuanan rakyat while maintaining racial stability and real malay supremacy which is the ability to compete with anyone on a level playing field.
ReplyDeletean example of twisting tongues for hidden agendas.. or is it not hidden anymore..
ReplyDeleteWe all know what the DAP and the ilk are really pushing for..
The PKR dude just wants to usurp the PM seat and he will go any extent to do that. he gives no damn for anything else..
The PAS is euphoric with the power it has gained after march 8, it thinks it now has much say and is getting very influential..
People had real problem with UMNO, ineffetive governance, corruption etc..
but having taken advantages of sliding UMNO support and divided Malay support, DAP has started beating up its agenda and s now is strongly pushing for a lot of changes. Many of them which are unreasonable wrt to social contracts. It has taken a free reign to beat its agenda around, firing up minds and poison against everything UMNO, malay and Islam.
I'm a Star Trek Socialist, ho. I believe somewhat in a more equal distribution of wealth.
ReplyDeleteI don't care much about rights as long as the fun-the-mentals are for all. I want money.
Some people have money, and they want more rights. For what? I don't know.
So, fair trade la.
And I believe that equal rights and all that shit should work towards a goal for a more equal distribution of wealth.
If that is racist, then so be it.
Ok there are couple of things I would like to commennt.
ReplyDelete1) Opposition has to be consistent on its views of the Royalty. They cannot 'like the good' parts that favour them and attack the parts that do not.
2) I don't get Rocky's motivation in pouring contempt over Zorro's inspiration. Number 1, you are working for a company rooted in Singapore, who as far as I know, its dead against Ketuanan Melayu. But you still accept their paycheck, and today you want readers to mock and sneer at Zorro.
I don't get it, perhaps your over exposure to a certain group of people has made you a much more hypocritical human being.
i am for ketuanan negara. ask what you can do for your country and not what the country can do for you. so all of you guys, wake up, with or without special rights, this country needs your efforts to grow. so please grow up please. this is no time to talk about rights. the world is in a recession and everybody is thinking about how to get out of it. please do the necessary. dont waaste time everyday talking about nonsense. the country the real turan needs you all.
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Zorro you say?
ReplyDeleteWhen a man can play out a friend for personal benefits...
When a man uses all his charm and friendliness...to arm himself...gathering a much information...arming himself..with full knowledge of his friends...use against any friend.. be the Malaysian Brutus to Ceasar....for personal benefits....
When a man....who is a alcoholic...encouraging others to be like him...even Muslims...
What kind of a blooger you think he is?
Right now...anti UMNO.
Previously...pro and hero worship Mahathir.
Now...RPK and Anwar are his hero
All these within 5 years.
What kind of a man is Zorro aka Benard Khoo??
Amir >>towards a goal for a more equal distribution of wealth.... If that is racist, then so be it.
ReplyDeleteGood one! I think we are all racist. It’s only human….toward to more non-racial distribution of health & wealth.
Anon >> There are thousands of people in Malaysia who are Christians who speak only Malay, and they have used “Allah” to refer to God for generation.
Yep, It appears unfair! But if I was preaching the gospel then calling it Tuhan would be Jesus thing to do.
Anon >> The Raja of Perlis said the role of the Malay royalty should be upheld as they had played the most significant role in defending the rights of the people.?? Question?
The royalty is not a political institution. The Sultan is all our symbol of Malay Cultural heritage. I do hope we can learn to separate race and religion with politics. Understanding that religion is not Science; unfortunately.
I believe it’s only fair to expect Zorro to be inspired albeit a mistake. The article on Raja Perlis was quite informative.
How words can be interpreted!?